JP Cusick wrote:
The challenge is only to make the right choices and to avoid the wrong.
We each or all can damage our own authority by choosing wrong, and unfortunately we all buck our authority into each other causing endless problems.
I really do like parts of Atheism as being more accurate and true than many orthodox Christianity claims, and I do have a couple Atheist as friends, and I do not reject people or ideas just because they are wrong in some ways.
So when I am right about some things which others are wrong, then that does tend to make their authority less equal.
But you are wrong and have weaken your own authority in their eyes, so you are no better than atheists.
Because there are implications.
When a persons says they are a Christian then there are implications, and so too when some one declares their self to be an Atheist then there are implications.
Sure, but none of those implication are that we are immoral.
As like a person says that they have been to prison, then they need to put a qualifier as like = it was a non violent crime, or that they are now reformed, because if they do not put an acceptable qualifier then the implications alone will shut them out.
Right, because being in prison means you were convicted of a crime. The same isn't true for atheists.
I always qualify any Christian in real life by asking them as to what kind of Christian? or what Church? or which denomination? because the qualifier matters.
What implications did you have in mind, for a generic Christian without a qualifier, and also for an atheist without a qualifier? I am trying to figure out why you would presume that we are immoral.
Whichever God that the person declares is the deciding factor for me.
Or whatever God makes itself known works too.
We were not talking about the deciding factor for you, we were talking about the separation of religion from Government. You said that does not imply separation of God from Government, to which I said as soon as you identify God, it becomes a religion. Your response here doesn't seem to deal with that.
I must say that you and I view such things differently, just any Atheist views such things differently from a religious person.
Politicians seeking or playing on the religious vote does not make the government any less anti God or anti religion.
It does when said politicians make laws that are pro God and pro religion.
Donald Trump did not win the election as our religious leader, and yet I myself do see Trump as being the better choice then that horrible woman.
And yet Trump is doing things that are pro God and pro religion.
Teaching evolution without morality is like teaching about handguns without morality.
It's not up to a shooting instructor to teach morality exactly because guns are not moral or immoral as they are just things without any morality. A gun instructor is there to teach you how guns operate and he is there to teach you how to fire it safely.