Will Israel ever accept Jesus Christ as it's Messiah?

[Elijah John]

Will Jews collectively, (Israel), ever accept Jesus Christ as their Messiah? This is what Paul predicted, and what so many Evangelicals seem to hope for.

Is there any evidence that this will happen?

Why would any devout Jew accept Jesus Christ as their Messiah, or their "personal Lord and Savior"?

[JehovahsWitness]

[Replying to post 1 by Elijah John]

No I don't think they will and Paul never predicted that natural Israel would.

I believe that as a whole the fleshy nation of Israel (meaning the natural descendants of Abraham) has been rejected by God because they failed to accept their Messiah in the person of Jesus of Nazareth, so while individuals can come into a favoured relationship with God as part a NEW special multinational people selected to bear His name, as a nation the Jews are no longer God’s people and never will be again.

That ship has sailed,

JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES




The above is the Jehovahs Witnesses view.

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[polonius]

Jesus did not fulfill the Messianic prophecies in the Old Testament so consequently can not be considered to have been the Messiah.

[Elijah John]

[Replying to post 1 by Elijah John]

No I don't think they will and Paul never predicted that natural Israel would.

I believe that as a whole the fleshy nation of Israel (meaning the natural descendants of Abraham) has been rejected by God because they failed to accept their Messiah in the person of Jesus of Nazareth, so while individuals can come into a favoured relationship with God as part a special multinational people selected to bear His name, as a nation they no longer are His people.

That ship has sailed,

JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES

That notion that Israel, (collectively Jews) are "no longer His people" is "replacement theology", not Scriptural. Even some Evangelicals reject that notion, (John Hagee, if I'm not mistaken. and others believe in a "two Covenant" theory).

Just because Israel has rejected and is unlikely to ever accept Jesus Christ as it's Messiah (no reason to), does not mean that God has rejected them, or that they reject God.

[JehovahsWitness]

[Replying to post 1 by Elijah John]

No I don't think they will and Paul never predicted that natural Israel would.

I believe that as a whole the fleshy nation of Israel (meaning the natural descendants of Abraham) has been rejected by God because they failed to accept their Messiah in the person of Jesus of Nazareth, so while individuals can come into a favoured relationship with God as part a special multinational people selected to bear His name, as a nation they no longer are His people.

That ship has sailed,

JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES

That notion that Israel, (collectively Jews) are "no longer His people" is "replacement theology", not Scriptural

What I have said is entirely scriptural, , if by "scrpitural" you mean the bible canon, my post even provided scripture in it.

Even some Evangelicals reject that notion, (John Hagee, if I'm not mistaken. and others believe in a "two Covenant" theory).

And I should care because...?

Just because Israel has rejected and is unlikely to ever accept Jesus Christ as it's Messiah (no reason to), does not mean that God has rejected them, or that they reject God.

Your view is not scriptural.

JW

[marco]

I believe that as a whole the fleshy nation of Israel (meaning the natural descendants of Abraham) has been rejected by God because they failed to accept their Messiah in the person of Jesus of Nazareth,

It is anything but clear that Christ was the Messiah.. There is no convincing evidence of his descent from David, but an attempt at fabrication to make it look as if some peasant woman could be accurately linked not only to David but to Adam. Is it any wonder the Jews rejected this nonsense and would Yahweh blame anyone for acting rationally. Billions believe Christ was God - that's the extent of the confusion. Is it reasonable for Jews to be blamed if God messes things up?

[tam]

Peace to you!

Will Jews collectively, (Israel), ever accept Jesus Christ as their Messiah? This is what Paul predicted, and what so many Evangelicals seem to hope for.

Not the "Jesus" of religion, per se, but the actual Messiah (whom most people call "Jesus" but who might be more known as Yeshua to Jews)?

Yes.

Is there any evidence that this will happen?

Yes. Interestingly enough, the very verse that jw used to state that this will not happen, is the same verse that states this will happen.

You will not see me again UNTIL YOU SAY, "Blessed is He who comes in the name of the Lord".



"Until" implies that the time is coming that this will happen.


When they say this, then they will see Him again.



Peace to you,
your servant and a slave of Christ,
tammy

[brianbbs67]

I believe that as a whole the fleshy nation of Israel (meaning the natural descendants of Abraham) has been rejected by God because they failed to accept their Messiah in the person of Jesus of Nazareth,

It is anything but clear that Christ was the Messiah.. There is no convincing evidence of his descent from David, but an attempt at fabrication to make it look as if some peasant woman could be accurately linked not only to David but to Adam. Is it any wonder the Jews rejected this nonsense and would Yahweh blame anyone for acting rationally. Billions believe Christ was God - that's the extent of the confusion. Is it reasonable for Jews to be blamed if God messes things up?

Well. we are all linked to Adam. The House of David claim is the one that needs further work. Was it her or Joseph?

[marco]

Well. we are all linked to Adam. The House of David claim is the one that needs further work. Was it her or Joseph?

But most of us, unlike Mary, don't have a box under the bed with documents detailing our forefathers back to the first lad. We know next to nothing about Jesus and absolutely nothing about his maternal or paternal grandparents. Adam's brothers and sisters may have something to do with our present status. The tale of a single male alone in a primeval orchard is a poem.


There is no reason for Jews to accept Jesus as boy born of a virgin, descended from their giant slayer.

[marco]

Yes. Interestingly enough, the very verse that jw used to state that this will not happen, is the same verse that states this will happen.

You will not see me again UNTIL YOU SAY, "Blessed is He who comes in the name of the Lord".

There is some beautiful music composed around the Benedictus Qui Venit ..... but one needs very special pleading to impose a very special meaning on these unexceptional words.


Psalm 118: joyfully states:

let us rejoice today and be glad. 25LORD, save us! LORD, grant us success! 26Blessed is he who comes in the name of the LORD. From the house of the LORD we bless you. 27The LORD is God, and he has made his light shine on us. With boughs in hand, join in the festal procession up to the horns of the altar. 28You are my God, and I will praise you; you are my God, and I will exalt you.


As is usual bits from Scripture are refashioned to give the impression of prophecy. They are often placed on the lips of Christ. What this has to do witb Israel accepting Jesus is not clear.