When I lived in Bali, I couldn't help observing the pervasive evidence of belief in demons. And of course demons put in an appearance in the Bible, not to mention in the gargoyles of old cathedrals.
On the other hand, modern science would seem to categorically reject the existence of demons, without a clear reason why, unless it has to do with the axiomatic presuppositions of science's governing ideology of reductionist materialism.
Question: Do demons exist? What evidence is there, for or against?
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Do demons exist? Can that be tested?
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Do demons exist? Can that be tested?
Post #1"Love is a force in the universe." -- Interstellar
"God don't let me lose my nerve" -- "Put Your Lights On"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KCBS5EtszYI
"Who shall save the human race?"
-- "Wild Goose Chase" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5L45toPpEv0
"A piece is gonna fall on you..."
-- "All You Zombies" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=63O_cAclG3A[/i]
"God don't let me lose my nerve" -- "Put Your Lights On"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KCBS5EtszYI
"Who shall save the human race?"
-- "Wild Goose Chase" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5L45toPpEv0
"A piece is gonna fall on you..."
-- "All You Zombies" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=63O_cAclG3A[/i]
Re: Do demons exist? Can that be tested?
Post #601What definition of "God" are we going to use in our debate?JoeyKnothead wrote: ↑Mon Dec 05, 2022 2:57 pm"You can't show it ain't! You can't show it ain't! You can't show it aint!"OneWay wrote: ↑Mon Dec 05, 2022 2:38 pmMy rebuttal.JoeyKnothead wrote: ↑Mon Dec 05, 2022 2:35 pmMy opening statement, by JoeyKnothead
You can't show your god exists.
This concludes my opening statement.
You cannot show my God does not exist.
I need to know which one you recognize so as to rebuttal your statement.
Re: Do demons exist? Can that be tested?
Post #602I can easily show you my God.Clownboat wrote: ↑Mon Dec 05, 2022 3:01 pmThe reality is, we cannot show you that anything that doesn't exist, well... doesn't exist. This is telling.OneWay wrote: ↑Mon Dec 05, 2022 2:38 pmMy rebuttal.JoeyKnothead wrote: ↑Mon Dec 05, 2022 2:35 pmMy opening statement, by JoeyKnothead
You can't show your god exists.
This concludes my opening statement.
You cannot show my God does not exist.
Copy/paste: "Do you see why this is a failure in logical thinking and why you should abandon it? It's ok if you can't, I'm sure our readers can see it."
He is everywhere. Even in plain sight.
Even you can see Him, you just don't know it.
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Post #603It seems like you are having a very hard time following along.
The question asked of you was:
"Do you see why this is a failure in logical thinking and why you should abandon it?" ----> (You cannot show my God does not exist.)
If you are not sure how to form a response, it would probably be best to just not answer.
“It is better for a man to remain silent and appear a fool, then to open his mouth and remove all doubt.”
You can give a man a fish and he will be fed for a day, or you can teach a man to pray for fish and he will starve to death.
I blame man for codifying those rules into a book which allowed superstitious people to perpetuate a barbaric practice. Rules that must be followed or face an invisible beings wrath. - KenRU
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If you are unable to demonstrate that what you believe is true and you absolve yourself of the burden of proof, then what is the purpose of your arguments? - brunumb
I blame man for codifying those rules into a book which allowed superstitious people to perpetuate a barbaric practice. Rules that must be followed or face an invisible beings wrath. - KenRU
It is sad that in an age of freedom some people are enslaved by the nomads of old. - Marco
If you are unable to demonstrate that what you believe is true and you absolve yourself of the burden of proof, then what is the purpose of your arguments? - brunumb
Re: Do demons exist? Can that be tested?
Post #604Before I am going to take your question into any account,Clownboat wrote: ↑Mon Dec 05, 2022 4:32 pmIt seems like you are having a very hard time following along.
The question asked of you was:
"Do you see why this is a failure in logical thinking and why you should abandon it?" ----> (You cannot show my God does not exist.)
If you are not sure how to form a response, it would probably be best to just not answer.
“It is better for a man to remain silent and appear a fool, then to open his mouth and remove all doubt.”
you first must establish in what context we are going to debate it.
I wager you cannot comprehend what I just posted to you.
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Post #605It's your God, so a definition'd be on you.
I might be Teddy Roosevelt, but I ain't.
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Re: Do demons exist? Can that be tested?
Post #606[Replying to JoeyKnothead in post #605]
♬It's your GOD -
Dress it up as you will
Tell us what you're thinking
Give us all a thrill
Don't be shy now - don't miss a word
What voice speaks to you? - Tell us what you heard!♬
♬It's your GOD -
Dress it up as you will
Tell us what you're thinking
Give us all a thrill
Don't be shy now - don't miss a word
What voice speaks to you? - Tell us what you heard!♬
Re: Do demons exist? Can that be tested?
Post #607I am God. Now what are you going to do?
I am conversing with you, therefore you have your proof I exist.
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Post #608Recommend you seek professional psychiatric services.
I have proof you may be suffering a severe psychological event.I am conversing with you, therefore you have your proof I exist.
I might be Teddy Roosevelt, but I ain't.
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Re: Do demons exist? Can that be tested?
Post #609That's something I would expect a demon to say.OneWay wrote: ↑Mon Dec 05, 2022 5:10 pmI am God. Now what are you going to do?
I am conversing with you, therefore you have your proof I exist.
George Orwell:: “The further a society drifts from the truth, the more it will hate those who speak it.”
Voltaire: "Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities."
Gender ideology is anti-science, anti truth.
Voltaire: "Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities."
Gender ideology is anti-science, anti truth.
Re: Do demons exist? Can that be tested?
Post #610So which is it, am I God or a demon.brunumb wrote: ↑Mon Dec 05, 2022 5:50 pmThat's something I would expect a demon to say.OneWay wrote: ↑Mon Dec 05, 2022 5:10 pmI am God. Now what are you going to do?
I am conversing with you, therefore you have your proof I exist.
Be careful what you reply.
It might not turn out well for you.