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Will all those who died before Armeggedon be raised to life?

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There are those that think that everyone will be raised to life after Armageddon. This would include such people as Hitler and Judas Iscariot.

For debate, will everyone be resurrected after the end of this system of things or will there be some that will not? What do the scriptures say? If all people will be resurrected, is there no accountability for our actions now? Just as long as we kill ourselves before God judges us?
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2timothy316 wrote: Mon Nov 06, 2023 3:39 pm There are those that think that everyone will be raised to life after Armageddon. This would include such people as Hitler and Judas Iscariot.

For debate, will everyone be resurrected after the end of this system of things or will there be some that will not? What do the scriptures say?
The scriptures state that every deceased human will be resurrected:

For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive. But every man in his own order: Christ the first fruits; afterward they that are Christ's at his coming. (I Corinthians 15:22-23)

Believers will be resurrected at the Second Coming to everlasting life.

Nonbelievers will be resurrected 1,000 years after the Second Coming as humans.

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myth-one.com wrote: Mon Nov 06, 2023 4:18 pm
2timothy316 wrote: Mon Nov 06, 2023 3:39 pm There are those that think that everyone will be raised to life after Armageddon. This would include such people as Hitler and Judas Iscariot.

For debate, will everyone be resurrected after the end of this system of things or will there be some that will not? What do the scriptures say?
The scriptures state that every deceased human will be resurrected:

For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive. But every man in his own order: Christ the first fruits; afterward they that are Christ's at his coming. (I Corinthians 15:22-23)

Believers will be resurrected at the Second Coming to everlasting life.

Nonbelievers will be resurrected 1,000 years after the Second Coming as humans.
So there is there no accountability for our actions now? Just as long as we die or kill ourselves before God judges us? Hitler is coming back? Adam and Eve are coming back? Cain, who God told not to kill his brother but did anyway is coming back to life? Unrepentant sinners who intentionally work against God's will are coming back?

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MATTHEW 23:29 33

Woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! [...] 33 “Serpents, offspring of vipers, how will you flee from the judgment of Gehenna?
MATTHEW 12:31, 32

“For this reason I say to you, every sort of sin and blasphemy will be forgiven men, but the blasphemy against the spirit will not be forgiven. For example, whoever speaks a word against the Son of man, it will be forgiven him; but whoever speaks against the holy spirit, it will not be forgiven him, no, not in this system of things nor in that to come
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"For if we live, we live to Jehovah, and if we die, we die to Jehovah. So both if we live and if we die, we belong to Jehovah" -
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2timothy316 wrote: Mon Nov 06, 2023 4:19 pm
myth-one.com wrote: Mon Nov 06, 2023 4:18 pm
2timothy316 wrote: Mon Nov 06, 2023 3:39 pm There are those that think that everyone will be raised to life after Armageddon. This would include such people as Hitler and Judas Iscariot.

For debate, will everyone be resurrected after the end of this system of things or will there be some that will not? What do the scriptures say?
The scriptures state that every deceased human will be resurrected:

For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive. But every man in his own order: Christ the first fruits; afterward they that are Christ's at his coming. (I Corinthians 15:22-23)

Believers will be resurrected at the Second Coming to everlasting life.

Nonbelievers will be resurrected 1,000 years after the Second Coming as humans.
So there is no accountability for our actions now?
Sure there is. We reap the rewards of our sins here on earth. These may include prison time, jail, fear of detection, guilt, venereal disease, shame, lost opportunities, divorce, low self-esteem; and the list goes on, and on, and on.
2timothy316 wrote: Mon Nov 06, 2023 4:19 pm Just as long as we kill ourselves before God judges us?
No. There will be living nonbelievers on the earth at the time of the second resurrection of all deceased nonbelievers. The resurrected nonbelievers and the nonbelievers which are living on the earth at the time of the second resurrection will face judgment at that time.

Whether they died before or after the Second Coming makes no difference.
2timothy316 wrote: Mon Nov 06, 2023 4:19 pm Hitler is coming back?
Yes. If He was a believer he will be resurrected to everlasting life at the Second Coming. I doubt that will be the case!

If he was a nonbeliever, he will be resurrected during the second resurrection following the millennium. Satan is locked away and Hitler's eyes will be opened to his stupidity during his earthly life. If he asks for forgiveness and accepts Christ, he will be born again of the Spirit, as a spirit, into the Kingdom of God. If not, he will be cast into the lake of fire and quickly suffer his second and everlasting death since he was raised as a mortal man.

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JehovahsWitness wrote: Mon Nov 06, 2023 7:09 pm
MATTHEW 12:31, 32

“For this reason I say to you, every sort of sin and blasphemy will be forgiven men, but the blasphemy against the spirit will not be forgiven. For example, whoever speaks a word against the Son of man, it will be forgiven him; but whoever speaks against the holy spirit, it will not be forgiven him, no, not in this system of things nor in that to come
Good works earned one salvation under the Old Testament. That is, if a person never violated any of God's laws, he or she gained eternal life. The wages of sin is death, so if one never sinned, they would live forever.

But under the New Testament Covenant, man came under the grace of God, and not the law. After Jesus died without sinning, salvation became a gift of God:

For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord. (Romans 6:23)

We fell under the grace of God for our salvation, not our works to fulfill the law. So, sin does not control our salvation:

For sin shall not have dominion over you: for ye are not under the law, but under grace. (Romans 6:14)

Yes, the one sin that will never be forgiven is blasphemy against the Holy Spirit.

So what? That unforgivable sin is labelled as a sin, and sin no longer has dominion over our salvation!

The wages of any sin is still death, but upon being born again of the Spirit, as a spirit, we become immune from death as we are immortal spiritual bodied beings -- which can never die!

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Peace to you,
2timothy316 wrote: Mon Nov 06, 2023 3:39 pm There are those that think that everyone will be raised to life after Armageddon. This would include such people as Hitler and Judas Iscariot.

For debate, will everyone be resurrected after the end of this system of things or will there be some that will not? What do the scriptures say?
The scriptures state:

Multitudes who sleep in the dust of the earth will awake: some to everlasting life, others to shame and everlasting contempt. Daniel 12:2


Christ, in the book attributed to John (5:28,29), states:

Do not be amazed at this, for the hour is coming when all who are in their graves will hear His voice 29and come out—those who have done good to the resurrection of life, and those who have done evil to the resurrection of judgment.

Some receive a resurrection of life. Some receive a resurrection of judgment. But ALL who are in their graves will hear His voice and come out.

Paul states in Acts 24:15

I believe everything that is laid down by the Law and written in the Prophets, 15and I have the same hope in God that they themselves cherish, that there will be a resurrection of both the righteous and the wicked.

And from Revelation:

And I saw the dead, great and small, standing before the throne. And there were open books, and one of them was the Book of Life. And the dead were judged according to their deeds, as recorded in the books. 13 The sea gave up its dead, and Death and Hades gave up their dead, and each one was judged according to his deeds.


The sea, death, and hades gave up their dead - and then 'each one was judged according to his deeds.'

If all people will be resurrected, is there no accountability for our actions now? Just as long as we kill ourselves before God judges us?

Not all people receive the resurrection of life. Some receive a resurrection to judgment (and the second death). See the verse from Revelation above:

And I saw the dead, great and small, standing before the throne. And there were open books, and one of them was the Book of Life. And the dead were judged according to their deeds, as recorded in the books. 13 The sea gave up its dead, and Death and Hades gave up their dead, and each one was judged according to his deeds. Then Death and Hades were thrown into the lake of fire. This is the second death— the lake of fire. 15And if anyone was found whose name was not written in the Book of Life, he was thrown into the lake of fire.


Some receive the resurrection of life. Some receive the resurrection of judgment (and the second death).


This (the judgment) is accountability for our actions now.

Just as is demonstrated in the parable of Lazarus and the Rich Man (which has nothing to do with burning for eternity in hellfire):

“But Abraham replied, ‘Son, remember that in your lifetime you received your good things, while Lazarus received bad things, but now he is comforted here and you are in agony."



Though thank God that there is no judgment for anyone in Christ. We are covered by His blood if we are in Him; we have forgiveness of sins in Him. And that there is also mercy (God may have mercy upon whomever He chooses; and Christ also said that the merciful would be shown mercy); and that there are also those who will be declared righteous based on what they have done for Christ (even unknowingly), because whatever one does for even a least one of His brothers, one has done for Christ (see sheep and goats in Matt 25). This, too, is merciful.



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tam wrote: Mon Nov 06, 2023 7:51 pm
Not all people receive the resurrection of life. Some receive a resurrection to judgment (and the second death).

Everyone does receive a resurrection to life.

But everyone does not receive a resurrection to everlasting life!!

Deceased believers are resurrected to everlasting spiritual bodied life at the Second Coming.

Deceased nonbelievers are resurrected a 1000 years after the Second Coming to human life once again, and face judgment.

Following judgment, those judged whose names are not written in the Book of Life are cast into the lake of fire and suffer their second and everlasting death.

Those whose names are in the Book of Life are born again of the Spirit into everlasting spiritual bodied life!

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Peace to you,
myth-one.com wrote: Mon Nov 06, 2023 8:27 pm
tam wrote: Mon Nov 06, 2023 7:51 pm
Not all people receive the resurrection of life. Some receive a resurrection to judgment (and the second death).

Everyone does receive a resurrection to life.
I'm just quoting Christ:

Do not be amazed at this, for the hour is coming when all who are in their graves will hear His voice 29and come out—those who have done good to the resurrection of life, and those who have done evil to the resurrection of judgment.
But everyone does not receive a resurrection to everlasting life!!
Correct. But that is what the resurrection of life is - everlasting life.
Deceased believers are resurrected to everlasting spiritual bodied life at the Second Coming.
Deceased believers (meaning any who are in Christ) are resurrected to LIFE at the return of Christ, yes.
Deceased nonbelievers are resurrected a 1000 years after the Second Coming to human life once again, and face judgment.
Deceased people who are not in Christ are resurrected at the end of the thousand years (yes). But at that time, some of these receive life (the resurrection of life), and some of these receive judgment and the second death (the resurrection of judgment.)



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myth-one.com wrote: Mon Nov 06, 2023 7:29 pm
2timothy316 wrote: Mon Nov 06, 2023 4:19 pm
myth-one.com wrote: Mon Nov 06, 2023 4:18 pm
2timothy316 wrote: Mon Nov 06, 2023 3:39 pm There are those that think that everyone will be raised to life after Armageddon. This would include such people as Hitler and Judas Iscariot.

For debate, will everyone be resurrected after the end of this system of things or will there be some that will not? What do the scriptures say?
The scriptures state that every deceased human will be resurrected:

For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive. But every man in his own order: Christ the first fruits; afterward they that are Christ's at his coming. (I Corinthians 15:22-23)

Believers will be resurrected at the Second Coming to everlasting life.

Nonbelievers will be resurrected 1,000 years after the Second Coming as humans.
So there is no accountability for our actions now?
Sure there is. We reap the rewards of our sins here on earth. These may include prison time, jail, fear of detection, guilt, venereal disease, shame, lost opportunities, divorce, low self-esteem; and the list goes on, and on, and on.
2timothy316 wrote: Mon Nov 06, 2023 4:19 pm Just as long as we kill ourselves before God judges us?
No. There will be living nonbelievers on the earth at the time of the second resurrection of all deceased nonbelievers. The resurrected nonbelievers and the nonbelievers which are living on the earth at the time of the second resurrection will face judgment at that time.

Whether they died before or after the Second Coming makes no difference.
2timothy316 wrote: Mon Nov 06, 2023 4:19 pm Hitler is coming back?
Yes. If He was a believer he will be resurrected to everlasting life at the Second Coming. I doubt that will be the case!

If he was a nonbeliever, he will be resurrected during the second resurrection following the millennium. Satan is locked away and Hitler's eyes will be opened to his stupidity during his earthly life. If he asks for forgiveness and accepts Christ, he will be born again of the Spirit, as a spirit, into the Kingdom of God. If not, he will be cast into the lake of fire and quickly suffer his second and everlasting death since he was raised as a mortal man.
Not a single scripture to back any of this up. SO it will be discarded as opinion.

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