How to Understand GOD

cayden · Post by **cayden** » Wed Dec 06, 2006 10:27 am

Before I explain… I want to make the point; I am not preaching what is good for anyone or bad here. I am not making reference to biblical scriptures or even taking into account the existence Jesus Christ.

No-one can prove ‘God’s’ existence. If you believe IT/HE/SHE exists, it boils down to mere perception. I am not here to judge others judgment - for or against - and likewise I don’t expect it from others. But let’s look at a simple measure for what I believe God is….

Some say, “You should love God, as He loves you.” Others may say, “Worship God with all your heart,” etc, but what is that all about? How can you worship something that is not tangible; not visible? We live in the 21st Century, everything is visible, the technology of communication allows use to be seen and heard. Generations grow into - and from - this concept. And we learn what is right and wrong through it.

The best way I know how to comprehend an all powerful being is through one’s conscience. And one’s conscience does not require love or worship just contemplation.

Any thoughts on this?

hannah4 · Post by **hannah4** » Wed Dec 06, 2006 10:29 am

I would say that a people would be wise to consult all aspects of their culture and individual humanity in the contemplation of a higher being/s. This will inevitably lead to visible, cultural forms people have always clothed the divine in... Heroes, images, nature associations, poems and metaphor, etc.

But in the end there really is no truly good way to comprehend a thing that ultimately exists beyond all categories of human thought and experience. You know, in terms of putting it under a microscope, and dissecting it up so that it will fit nice and peachy into the nifty little box we created for it. Share thoughts at www.vois.com

bryant · Post by **bryant** » Wed Dec 06, 2006 10:32 am

I would not dream of trying to categorize or analyze the ultimate being, yet it is important to comprehend, is it not? And how does one, like me, understand anything without some form of countenance? There are many factors to consider... one would be that of a woman who sees God as sexist because of the male dominance of the godhead. My Sites

McCulloch · Post by **McCulloch** » Wed Dec 06, 2006 12:55 pm

Welcome cayden

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Confused · Post by **Confused** » Wed Dec 06, 2006 10:14 pm

cayden wrote:Before I explain… I want to make the point; I am not preaching what is good for anyone or bad here. I am not making reference to biblical scriptures or even taking into account the existence Jesus Christ.

No-one can prove ‘God’s’ existence. If you believe IT/HE/SHE exists, it boils down to mere perception. I am not here to judge others judgment - for or against - and likewise I don’t expect it from others. But let’s look at a simple measure for what I believe God is….

Some say, “You should love God, as He loves you.” Others may say, “Worship God with all your heart,” etc, but what is that all about? How can you worship something that is not tangible; not visible? We live in the 21st Century, everything is visible, the technology of communication allows use to be seen and heard. Generations grow into - and from - this concept. And we learn what is right and wrong through it.

The best way I know how to comprehend an all powerful being is through one’s conscience. And one’s conscience does not require love or worship just contemplation.

Any thoughts on this?

And for those born without a conscience????

Anti-guy · Post by **Anti-guy** » Fri Jan 05, 2007 1:44 am

I don't think it's about PROOVING anything. I think that the way the physical realm works would allow anyone to logically come to the conclusion that He does exist. And just because you can't feel or see something doesn't mean it does not exist. We have radio waves, wi-fi waves...

PaulJJ · Post by **PaulJJ** » Fri Jan 05, 2007 5:27 am

cayden wrote:The best way I know how to comprehend an all powerful being is through one’s conscience. And one’s conscience does not require love or worship just contemplation.

Any thoughts on this?

Conscience on its own doesn't permit the comprehension of anything - the brain can dream up all sorts of crazy scenarios and convince the individual concerned that they are true. The only way we have of distinguishing fantasy from reality in our minds is by reference to evidence from the outside world; and in the outside world, there is no realistic evidence for god.

anti-guy wrote:I don't think it's about PROOVING anything. I think that the way the physical realm works would allow anyone to logically come to the conclusion that He does exist. And just because you can't feel or see something doesn't mean it does not exist. We have radio waves, wi-fi waves...

The physical realm doesn't allow the logical conclusion that god exists, because nothing in the physical realm has ever been shown to require god as part of its explanation.

"Just because you can't feel or see something doesn't mean that it doesn't exist" is true, but provides absolutely no grounds for believing that something does exist. I can't see or feel an invisible pink elephant in the room beside me, but I would be judged insane if I started living my life on the basis that it was there. Positive assertions require positive evidence, not merely the absence of negative evidence.

Radio waves etc may not be directly accessible to our organic senses, but they can be objectively detected by other equipment, and their effects can be accurately measured. None of this is true in the case of god.

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