1) You will know the truth and the truth will make you free. This provides both the proper goal of education, to know what is true and the proper reason for being educated, so we can be free. Education not based on the proper goal, to know what is true and/or, the proper reason for knowing what is true, so we can be free, is not worthy of the term 'education'. Unfortunately, this includes most of what passes for 'education' in the modern 21st Century world, which is generally focused on becoming educated so one can earn more money.
2) Put your sword in its place, for all who take the sword will perish by the sword. Consider how brave it was for Jesus to say this while a group of Roman soldiers were waiting to take him away to be crucified, the sword being the symbol of the might of the Roman Empire. And consider that to this day, no one has come up with a better solution for ending war and other human violence. This same axiom can be found in even more profound detail in Revelation 13.
3) Solomon in all his glory was not clothed as well as a common field lily. This is by far the greatest environmental statement known in human history, given at a time and place where such an issue wasn't even on the general public radar. To pretend that Jesus didn't care about the environment is to say that one of his followers, the first prominent modern environmentalist Albert Schweitzer, didn't care about the environment. Jesus is first and foremost, human history's greatest example of how important personal example, inspiration and influence is to achieving positive change.
4) Whatever you want people to do to you, do also to them. This is the proper and correct foundation for human and civil rights and, there is no greater proper ethical or human motivational idea in all of human history. To just teach us to do no harm, as some inferior so-called "golden rules" do, isn't nearly as socially and politically effective as teaching us to pro-actively reach out and treat others like we would want them to treat us, even if they aren't first friendly or kind towards us.
5) "These things I command you, that you love one another". For this reason, we will not kill, we will not steal, we will not bear false witness, we will not enslave our fellow human beings, we will not mass pollute the fragile home of our children's future, we will have deep reverence and respect for all of God's creation and, if there be any action worthy for the pursuit of life, liberty, fulfillment, security, happiness and peace on earth, for both human beings and every other living thing on our planet, it is summed up in this, that we love our neighbor as our self.
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Post #2[Replying to Richard Aberdeen in post #1]
1) You will know the truth and the truth will make you free. This provides both the proper goal of education, to know what is true and the proper reason for being educated, so we can be free. Education not based on the proper goal, to know what is true and/or, the proper reason for knowing what is true, so we can be free, is not worthy of the term 'education'. Unfortunately, this includes most of what passes for 'education' in the modern 21st Century world, which is generally focused on becoming educated so one can earn more money.
2) Put your sword in its place, for all who take the sword will perish by the sword. Consider how brave it was for Jesus to say this while a group of Roman soldiers were waiting to take him away to be crucified, the sword being the symbol of the might of the Roman Empire. And consider that to this day, no one has come up with a better solution for ending war and other human violence. This same axiom can be found in even more profound detail in Revelation 13.
3) Solomon in all his glory was not clothed as well as a common field lily. This is by far the greatest environmental statement known in human history, given at a time and place where such an issue wasn't even on the general public radar. To pretend that Jesus didn't care about the environment is to say that one of his followers, the first prominent modern environmentalist Albert Schweitzer, didn't care about the environment. Jesus is first and foremost, human history's greatest example of how important personal example, inspiration and influence is to achieve positive change.
4) Whatever you want people to do to you, do also to them. This is the proper and correct foundation for human and civil rights and, there is no greater proper ethical or human motivational idea in all of human history. To just teach us to do no harm, as some inferior so-called "golden rules" do, isn't nearly as socially and politically effective as teaching us to pro-actively reach out and treat others like we would want them to treat us, even if they aren't first friendly or kind towards us.
5) "These things I command you, that you love one another". For this reason, we will not kill, we will not steal, we will not bear false witness, we will not enslave our fellow human beings, we will not mass pollute the fragile home of our children's future, we will have deep reverence and respect for all of God's creation and, if there be any action worthy for the pursuit of life, liberty, fulfillment, security, happiness and peace on earth, for both human beings and every other living thing on our planet, it is summed up in this, that we love our neighbor as our self.
@Richard Aberdeen, I completely agree with your point number four, but I have some thoughts about the other ones based on the verses' contexts:
(1) Pilate asks Jesus, "What is truth?" Jesus answers that question in other places:
Joh 8:31 So Jesus said to the Jews who had believed him, “If you abide in my word, you are truly my disciples,
Joh 8:32 and you will know the truth, and the truth will set you free.”
Joh 8:33 They answered him, “We are offspring of Abraham and have never been enslaved to anyone. How is it that you say, ‘You will become free’?”
Joh 8:34 Jesus answered them, “Truly, truly, I say to you, everyone who practices sin is a slave to sin.
Joh 8:35 The slave does not remain in the house forever; the son remains forever.
Joh 8:36 So if the Son sets you free, you will be free indeed.
Joh 14:6 Jesus said to him, “I am the way, and the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me.
Thus, knowing the truth really means to know Jesus personally and all he stands for, for he is the Truth. When he saves us, he sets us free from slavery to sin and Satan to serve God as Jesus' personal friend, as he says.
(2) The passage in Luke 22 is as follows:
Luk 22:36 He said to them, “But now let the one who has a moneybag take it, and likewise a knapsack. And let the one who has no sword sell his cloak and buy one.
Luk 22:37 For I tell you that this Scripture must be fulfilled in me: ‘And he was numbered with the transgressors.’ For what is written about me has its fulfillment.”
Luk 22:38 And they said, “Look, Lord, here are two swords.” And he said to them, “It is enough.”...
Luk 22:49 And when those who were around him saw what would follow, they said, “Lord, shall we strike with the sword?”
Luk 22:50 And one of them struck the servant of the high priest and cut off his right ear.
Luk 22:51 But Jesus said, “No more of this!” And he touched his ear and healed him.
In Matthew 26, it is:
Mat 26:51 And behold, one of those who were with Jesus stretched out his hand and drew his sword and struck the servant of the high priest and cut off his ear.
Mat 26:52 Then Jesus said to him, “Put your sword back into its place. For all who take the sword will perish by the sword.
Mat 26:53 Do you think that I cannot appeal to my Father, and he will at once send me more than twelve legions of angels?
Mat 26:54 But how then should the Scriptures be fulfilled, that it must be so?”
We need to interpret any one verse in its context and compared with other similar verses. Here, Jesus allows the disciples to take along two swords to the Garden of Gethsemane as an object lesson that they must not resist the authorities who would come to arrest him. Of course, impulsive Peter cuts a servant's ear off, and Jesus heals him. Jesus isn't endorsing pacificism but instead the way of the cross he did endorse in fulfillment of Isaiah 53, for example.
Incidently, it isn't a crowd of Roman soldiers, but they come from the religious leaders to bring him to their "kangaroo court": Mat 26:47 While he was still speaking, Judas came, one of the twelve, and with him a great crowd with swords and clubs, from the chief priests and the elders of the people.
(3) Of course, Jesus is concerned about his creation, since he has created it from the Father in the Spirit, all of whom are the great Creator, but his point in this passage is that we must not be anxious about the basic necessities since God takes care of the birds and the lilies.
Mat 6:28 And why are you anxious about clothing? Consider the lilies of the field, how they grow: they neither toil nor spin,
Mat 6:29 yet I tell you, even Solomon in all his glory was not arrayed like one of these.
Mat 6:30 But if God so clothes the grass of the field, which today is alive and tomorrow is thrown into the oven, will he not much more clothe you, O you of little faith?
Mat 6:31 Therefore do not be anxious, saying, ‘What shall we eat?’ or ‘What shall we drink?’ or ‘What shall we wear?’
Mat 6:32 For the Gentiles seek after all these things, and your heavenly Father knows that you need them all.
Mat 6:33 But seek first the kingdom of God and his righteousness, and all these things will be added to you.
Mat 6:34 “Therefore do not be anxious about tomorrow, for tomorrow will be anxious for itself. Sufficient for the day is its own trouble.
(5) Our love for each other, which means our commitment to Jesus, must flow out of his love for us that he shows by dying and rising again, as he says in John 15:
Joh 15:12 “This is my commandment, that you love one another as I have loved you.
Joh 15:13 Greater love has no one than this, that someone lay down his life for his friends.
Joh 15:14 You are my friends if you do what I command you.
1) You will know the truth and the truth will make you free. This provides both the proper goal of education, to know what is true and the proper reason for being educated, so we can be free. Education not based on the proper goal, to know what is true and/or, the proper reason for knowing what is true, so we can be free, is not worthy of the term 'education'. Unfortunately, this includes most of what passes for 'education' in the modern 21st Century world, which is generally focused on becoming educated so one can earn more money.
2) Put your sword in its place, for all who take the sword will perish by the sword. Consider how brave it was for Jesus to say this while a group of Roman soldiers were waiting to take him away to be crucified, the sword being the symbol of the might of the Roman Empire. And consider that to this day, no one has come up with a better solution for ending war and other human violence. This same axiom can be found in even more profound detail in Revelation 13.
3) Solomon in all his glory was not clothed as well as a common field lily. This is by far the greatest environmental statement known in human history, given at a time and place where such an issue wasn't even on the general public radar. To pretend that Jesus didn't care about the environment is to say that one of his followers, the first prominent modern environmentalist Albert Schweitzer, didn't care about the environment. Jesus is first and foremost, human history's greatest example of how important personal example, inspiration and influence is to achieve positive change.
4) Whatever you want people to do to you, do also to them. This is the proper and correct foundation for human and civil rights and, there is no greater proper ethical or human motivational idea in all of human history. To just teach us to do no harm, as some inferior so-called "golden rules" do, isn't nearly as socially and politically effective as teaching us to pro-actively reach out and treat others like we would want them to treat us, even if they aren't first friendly or kind towards us.
5) "These things I command you, that you love one another". For this reason, we will not kill, we will not steal, we will not bear false witness, we will not enslave our fellow human beings, we will not mass pollute the fragile home of our children's future, we will have deep reverence and respect for all of God's creation and, if there be any action worthy for the pursuit of life, liberty, fulfillment, security, happiness and peace on earth, for both human beings and every other living thing on our planet, it is summed up in this, that we love our neighbor as our self.
@Richard Aberdeen, I completely agree with your point number four, but I have some thoughts about the other ones based on the verses' contexts:
(1) Pilate asks Jesus, "What is truth?" Jesus answers that question in other places:
Joh 8:31 So Jesus said to the Jews who had believed him, “If you abide in my word, you are truly my disciples,
Joh 8:32 and you will know the truth, and the truth will set you free.”
Joh 8:33 They answered him, “We are offspring of Abraham and have never been enslaved to anyone. How is it that you say, ‘You will become free’?”
Joh 8:34 Jesus answered them, “Truly, truly, I say to you, everyone who practices sin is a slave to sin.
Joh 8:35 The slave does not remain in the house forever; the son remains forever.
Joh 8:36 So if the Son sets you free, you will be free indeed.
Joh 14:6 Jesus said to him, “I am the way, and the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me.
Thus, knowing the truth really means to know Jesus personally and all he stands for, for he is the Truth. When he saves us, he sets us free from slavery to sin and Satan to serve God as Jesus' personal friend, as he says.
(2) The passage in Luke 22 is as follows:
Luk 22:36 He said to them, “But now let the one who has a moneybag take it, and likewise a knapsack. And let the one who has no sword sell his cloak and buy one.
Luk 22:37 For I tell you that this Scripture must be fulfilled in me: ‘And he was numbered with the transgressors.’ For what is written about me has its fulfillment.”
Luk 22:38 And they said, “Look, Lord, here are two swords.” And he said to them, “It is enough.”...
Luk 22:49 And when those who were around him saw what would follow, they said, “Lord, shall we strike with the sword?”
Luk 22:50 And one of them struck the servant of the high priest and cut off his right ear.
Luk 22:51 But Jesus said, “No more of this!” And he touched his ear and healed him.
In Matthew 26, it is:
Mat 26:51 And behold, one of those who were with Jesus stretched out his hand and drew his sword and struck the servant of the high priest and cut off his ear.
Mat 26:52 Then Jesus said to him, “Put your sword back into its place. For all who take the sword will perish by the sword.
Mat 26:53 Do you think that I cannot appeal to my Father, and he will at once send me more than twelve legions of angels?
Mat 26:54 But how then should the Scriptures be fulfilled, that it must be so?”
We need to interpret any one verse in its context and compared with other similar verses. Here, Jesus allows the disciples to take along two swords to the Garden of Gethsemane as an object lesson that they must not resist the authorities who would come to arrest him. Of course, impulsive Peter cuts a servant's ear off, and Jesus heals him. Jesus isn't endorsing pacificism but instead the way of the cross he did endorse in fulfillment of Isaiah 53, for example.
Incidently, it isn't a crowd of Roman soldiers, but they come from the religious leaders to bring him to their "kangaroo court": Mat 26:47 While he was still speaking, Judas came, one of the twelve, and with him a great crowd with swords and clubs, from the chief priests and the elders of the people.
(3) Of course, Jesus is concerned about his creation, since he has created it from the Father in the Spirit, all of whom are the great Creator, but his point in this passage is that we must not be anxious about the basic necessities since God takes care of the birds and the lilies.
Mat 6:28 And why are you anxious about clothing? Consider the lilies of the field, how they grow: they neither toil nor spin,
Mat 6:29 yet I tell you, even Solomon in all his glory was not arrayed like one of these.
Mat 6:30 But if God so clothes the grass of the field, which today is alive and tomorrow is thrown into the oven, will he not much more clothe you, O you of little faith?
Mat 6:31 Therefore do not be anxious, saying, ‘What shall we eat?’ or ‘What shall we drink?’ or ‘What shall we wear?’
Mat 6:32 For the Gentiles seek after all these things, and your heavenly Father knows that you need them all.
Mat 6:33 But seek first the kingdom of God and his righteousness, and all these things will be added to you.
Mat 6:34 “Therefore do not be anxious about tomorrow, for tomorrow will be anxious for itself. Sufficient for the day is its own trouble.
(5) Our love for each other, which means our commitment to Jesus, must flow out of his love for us that he shows by dying and rising again, as he says in John 15:
Joh 15:12 “This is my commandment, that you love one another as I have loved you.
Joh 15:13 Greater love has no one than this, that someone lay down his life for his friends.
Joh 15:14 You are my friends if you do what I command you.
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Post #3[Replying to BruceLeiter in post #2]
What I quoted is not out of context. When Jesus says "all", he means everybody, no exceptions. When Jesus repeats the same in Revelation 13:10, that those who live by the sword will die by the sword", he especially underlines its importance by saying , "those who have an ear, let theme hear" and, it is one of the very few times Jesus repeats himself, again underlining its importance.
What you quoted, Luk 22:36 He said to them, “But now let the one who has a moneybag take it, and likewise a knapsack. And let the one who has no sword sell his cloak and buy one.
This is clearly a reference to self-defense, Jesus saying "two swords" are "sufficient" for a group of 12 people. War and other violence is NOT the same as self-defense. Self-defense is about protecting one's physical being. War is about taking and protecting wealth, a different motive entirely.
Otherwise, you must admit that Jesus contradicts himself, which doesn't make any sense, in particular because Jesus warns us twice to put our weapons away and does it in front of Roman soldiers and. And again, when Jesus says "all" who live by the sword will die by the sword, he means everybody.
What I quoted is not out of context. When Jesus says "all", he means everybody, no exceptions. When Jesus repeats the same in Revelation 13:10, that those who live by the sword will die by the sword", he especially underlines its importance by saying , "those who have an ear, let theme hear" and, it is one of the very few times Jesus repeats himself, again underlining its importance.
What you quoted, Luk 22:36 He said to them, “But now let the one who has a moneybag take it, and likewise a knapsack. And let the one who has no sword sell his cloak and buy one.
This is clearly a reference to self-defense, Jesus saying "two swords" are "sufficient" for a group of 12 people. War and other violence is NOT the same as self-defense. Self-defense is about protecting one's physical being. War is about taking and protecting wealth, a different motive entirely.
Otherwise, you must admit that Jesus contradicts himself, which doesn't make any sense, in particular because Jesus warns us twice to put our weapons away and does it in front of Roman soldiers and. And again, when Jesus says "all" who live by the sword will die by the sword, he means everybody.
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Post #4Richard Aberdeen wrote: ↑Sun Jun 07, 2026 2:59 pm 1) You will know the truth and the truth will make you free. This provides both the proper goal of education, to know what is true and the proper reason for being educated, so we can be free. Education not based on the proper goal, to know what is true and/or, the proper reason for knowing what is true, so we can be free, is not worthy of the term 'education'. Unfortunately, this includes most of what passes for 'education' in the modern 21st Century world, which is generally focused on becoming educated so one can earn more money.
2) Put your sword in its place, for all who take the sword will perish by the sword. Consider how brave it was for Jesus to say this while a group of Roman soldiers were waiting to take him away to be crucified, the sword being the symbol of the might of the Roman Empire. And consider that to this day, no one has come up with a better solution for ending war and other human violence. This same axiom can be found in even more profound detail in Revelation 13.
3) Solomon in all his glory was not clothed as well as a common field lily. This is by far the greatest environmental statement known in human history, given at a time and place where such an issue wasn't even on the general public radar. To pretend that Jesus didn't care about the environment is to say that one of his followers, the first prominent modern environmentalist Albert Schweitzer, didn't care about the environment. Jesus is first and foremost, human history's greatest example of how important personal example, inspiration and influence is to achieving positive change.
4) Whatever you want people to do to you, do also to them. This is the proper and correct foundation for human and civil rights and, there is no greater proper ethical or human motivational idea in all of human history. To just teach us to do no harm, as some inferior so-called "golden rules" do, isn't nearly as socially and politically effective as teaching us to pro-actively reach out and treat others like we would want them to treat us, even if they aren't first friendly or kind towards us.
5) "These things I command you, that you love one another". For this reason, we will not kill, we will not steal, we will not bear false witness, we will not enslave our fellow human beings, we will not mass pollute the fragile home of our children's future, we will have deep reverence and respect for all of God's creation and, if there be any action worthy for the pursuit of life, liberty, fulfillment, security, happiness and peace on earth, for both human beings and every other living thing on our planet, it is summed up in this, that we love our neighbor as our self.
It is highly recommended that one study the Bible for themselves while, it is not recommended that anyone view reading the Bible as being either a religious ritual or obligation. It is recommended that one read the New Testament completely through at least three times before tackling the Old Testament, because doing so will help one understand the Old Testament better.
You will never fully understand the New Testament if you are not familiar with the Old, impossible!!!!!! The 4 Gospels take place while Jesus and the Jews were under law, had a Temple where sacrifices were being made, had Holy Days like Passover and Pentecost, etc. How could you understand Jesus' place as King of the Jews in the line of King David, or his Priesthood after the order of Melchizedek, or he being the "mercy seat," or the Messiah of the Jews? and a million of other small details. You're wrong, the Old Testament is the foundation for the New.
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