Even a fool knows there is no God!!!???

[twobitsmedia]

The fact that even a fool knows there's no God reminds me of the boy who pointed out that the emperor was naked.

TC

Another one liner without an explanation of the presumed end of someones reasoning.....is this still more logic?

1) The fact? You have not explained how you come to that conclusion. Unless it is just be randomly tossed as an empty word to deny when challenged.

2) no God? Which God do you make reference to? Which God do you say does not exist? I think there are many God which do not exists.

3) How does that connect with the "boy who pointed out that the emperer was naked?

[Thought Criminal]

The fact that even a fool knows there's no God reminds me of the boy who pointed out that the emperor was naked.

Another one liner without an explanation of the presumed end of someones reasoning.....is this still more logic?

1) The fact? You have not explained how you come to that conclusion. Unless it is just be randomly tossed as an empty word to deny when challenged.

2) no God? Which God do you make reference to? Which God do you say does not exist? I think there are many God which do not exists.

3) How does that connect with the "boy who pointed out that the emperer was naked?

1) Sure, as soon as you explain why you're suggesting that it is foolish to be an atheist. This looks like a simple ad hominem, quite in violation of this forum's rules.

2) Any. I'm consistent in my atheism, unlike you. You arbitrarily decided to believe in more or less the God your parents did. How original.

3) The little boy saw what everyone else did, but he wasn't socialized enough to know not to say the truth that nobody wanted to hear. He just spoke his mind and said what he saw.

In contrast, the adults wanted to so much to believe the lie that they either lied to themselves or at least kept their mouths shut so as not to impair the self-deception of others.

This is precisely parallel to the notion of faith as a delicate virtue that must be preserved by sheltering people from reality.

TC

[Confused]

The fact that even a fool knows there's no God reminds me of the boy who pointed out that the emperor was naked.

TC

Another one liner without an explanation of the presumed end of someones reasoning.....is this still more logic?

1) The fact? You have not explained how you come to that conclusion. Unless it is just be randomly tossed as an empty word to deny when challenged.

2) no God? Which God do you make reference to? Which God do you say does not exist? I think there are many God which do not exists.

3) How does that connect with the "boy who pointed out that the emperer was naked?

As this thread is more directed at another poster rather than a general debate, I have moved it to the discussion forum.

[twobitsmedia]

1) Sure, as soon as you explain why you're suggesting that it is foolish to be an atheist. This looks like a simple ad hominem, quite in violation of this forum's rules.

You can take it up with the writer of the Bible, which is a tenant of Christianity....which I presume you are here to debate... The Bible also says the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God and that many will be destroyed in the lake of fire (hell)...is that also "ad hominem?"

2) Any. I'm consistent in my atheism, unlike you. You arbitrarily decided to believe in more or less the God your parents did. How original.

Again, you make a judgement without explain HOW you come to the conclusion. Arbitrarily? Please explain why my beliefs about God are arbitrary? Arbitrary to what?

3) The little boy saw what everyone else did, but he wasn't socialized enough to know not to say the truth that nobody wanted to hear. He just spoke his mind and said what he saw.

I am aware of the story. Explain the connection.

In contrast, the adults wanted to so much to believe the lie that they either lied to themselves or at least kept their mouths shut so as not to impair the self-deception of others.

You probably mean "in comparison" unless you really think it is a contrast, but far be it from me to point out something you may not want to hear...I still do not see the connection.

This is precisely parallel to the notion of faith as a delicate virtue that must be preserved by sheltering people from reality.

Then now you need to explain what you mean by faith, because in the context which you use it in this sentence it makes no sense. in the first place. It appears like an absurd definition which is concluding to be absurd by its useage...which would go without saying. I am aware that many nontheistic "theologians" frequently create abstract meanings of words and then desire to question why the meaning makes no sense.

[twobitsmedia]

The fact that even a fool knows there's no God reminds me of the boy who pointed out that the emperor was naked.

TC

Another one liner without an explanation of the presumed end of someones reasoning.....is this still more logic?

1) The fact? You have not explained how you come to that conclusion. Unless it is just be randomly tossed as an empty word to deny when challenged.

2) no God? Which God do you make reference to? Which God do you say does not exist? I think there are many God which do not exists.

3) How does that connect with the "boy who pointed out that the emperer was naked?

As this thread is more directed at another poster rather than a general debate, I have moved it to the discussion forum.

You can, but the original assertion that a fool believes there is a God was not made by this poster, it was made by a previous one to which this one added his ascent.

[Thought Criminal]

You can take it up with the writer of the Bible, which is a tenant of Christianity....which I presume you are here to debate... The Bible also says the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God and that many will be destroyed in the lake of fire (hell)...is that also "ad hominem?"

And if God comes here and posts it, I will. But he didn't post it; you did, so you're responsible.

If I quote some random idiot who says, and I quote, "All theists are idiots and must die", endorsing this quote as true, then it would be up to me to support it. For the record, I do not endorse it.

Again, you make a judgement without explain HOW you come to the conclusion. Arbitrarily? Please explain why my beliefs about God are arbitrary? Arbitrary to what?

There is evidence for a rational belief in precisely zero gods. You, on the other hand, believe in one god too many. Not coincidentally, you didn't reason your way into this belief, it was injected into you by your parents. That's why, of all the gods that are or could be believed in, you "chose" the god of your parents. This is purely arbitrary. If your parents believed in Zeus, so would you.

I am aware of the story. Explain the connection.

I explained it right after the part you quoted. Way to go on the impatience.

You probably mean "in comparison" unless you really think it is a contrast, but far be it from me to point out something you may not want to hear...I still do not see the connection.

Hmm, no, it's in contrast. The boy did one thing, the adults, in contrast, did another. When teaching people grammar, it helps to first learn some.

This is precisely parallel to the notion of faith as a delicate virtue that must be preserved by sheltering people from reality.

Then now you need to explain what you mean by faith, because in the context which you use it in this sentence it makes no sense. in the first place. It appears like an absurd definition which is concluding to be absurd by its useage...which would go without saying. I am aware that many nontheistic "theologians" frequently create abstract meanings of words and then desire to question why the meaning makes no sense.

Faith is the ability of people to believe, or at least maintain that they believe, something that evidence and argument do not support. It is seen as a delicate thing, all too easily broken by exposure to secular education or even to the harsh side of reality. What I find much more bizarre than faith in God is faith in faith; the very idea that faith is a virtue to be encouraged.

TC

[twobitsmedia]

You can take it up with the writer of the Bible, which is a tenant of Christianity....which I presume you are here to debate... The Bible also says the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God and that many will be destroyed in the lake of fire (hell)...is that also "ad hominem?"

And if God comes here and posts it, I will. But he didn't post it; you did, so you're responsible.

If I quote some random idiot who says, and I quote, "All theists are idiots and must die", endorsing this quote as true, then it would be up to me to support it. For the record, I do not endorse it.

Then what is your point? I do not NOT accept responsibility for beleiving the verse is true.

Again, you make a judgement without explain HOW you come to the conclusion. Arbitrarily? Please explain why my beliefs about God are arbitrary? Arbitrary to what?

There is evidence for a rational belief in precisely zero gods.

Where? Because you said so? Logic, as it is generally applied, neither affirms or denies it. Why does your "Rational" belief better than that?

You, on the other hand, believe in one god too many. Not coincidentally, you didn't reason your way into this belief, it was injected into you by your parents.

Really/ Which one? How did they do it? My dad, if he were still alive, would be entertained by that comment.

That's why, of all the gods that are or could be believed in, you "chose" the god of your parents. This is purely arbitrary. If your parents believed in Zeus, so would you.

They did beleive in Zeus. So do I. I beleive Zeus is from Greek mythology.

You probably mean "in comparison" unless you really think it is a contrast, but far be it from me to point out something you may not want to hear...I still do not see the connection.

Hmm, no, it's in contrast. The boy did one thing, the adults, in contrast, did another. When teaching people grammar, it helps to first learn some.

Contrast is the difference in the properties, comparison is the similarities. If you still wish to claim it is contrast, then I will have to say that your attempt at logic is illogical. In contrast, then, by your "good grammar" there is no comparison to the emperor story, which then makes me really miss the point of the nonpoint.

I have to go so cannot add more

[daedalus 2.0]

TC, I'm going to remind you that we have a finite amount of time on this planet. Let him do what he wants with his time, but don't let him drag you into a mediocre use of yours.

[twobitsmedia]

TC, I'm going to remind you that we have a finite amount of time on this planet. Let him do what he wants with his time, but don't let him drag you into a mediocre use of yours.

Some nonreligionists are aware that an inability to create a crisis of faith makes anything outside of their learned by rote talkings points as "mediocre."

[Thought Criminal]

TC, I'm going to remind you that we have a finite amount of time on this planet. Let him do what he wants with his time, but don't let him drag you into a mediocre use of yours.

Indeed, my time is best spent on debate, not this.

TC