My question here is 'what is the Holy Spirit?'
I've seen plenty of answers without having a satisfactory one. Jgh7 gave some good answers, but the thread didn't end up going anywhere.
please do not give circular or non-productive answers, but rather give a description of the Holy Spirit and what it does, and please be willing to answer lots of questions about it.
If you like Jgh7's answers in the other thread feel free to expand upon them or answer my latest questions I posed there. the thread is here. http://debatingchristianity.com/forum/v ... php?t=9083
The Holy Spirit
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Not in this debate thread.scottlittlefield17 wrote:I addressed that very specifically.
They might have wanted to stone him for claiming that his followers could be one with God too. Do you base your theological position on the understanding of a group who are portrayed in the Gospels as not accepting God's message to humanity?scottlittlefield17 wrote:Right after Jesus said i and the father are one the Jews picked up stones to stone him.
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In revelation he says "I am the first and the last" only God can make the claim that he is timeless. He says "everyone who looks to the Son has eternal life" if the Son is not God then God is saying to worship a man. Unthinkable!!
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So Jesus was a gnostic. Anyone familiar with a monist view of the nature of beign would understand what 'Jesus' meant by this.scottlittlefield17 wrote:Where in the world do you come up with that. Jesus said "I and the Father are one".
The whole idea of a triune godhead is older than christinaity by millennia.scottlittlefield17 wrote: When he talks about baptism he says "in the name of the father and of the son and of the holy spirit" he put all of them on the same plane.
The idea did not appear in christian doctrine until some hundreds of years after the supposed death and resurrection of 'Christ' and is clearly a misinterpretation of monist beliefs being shoehorned into Paulian dualism.
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What proof do you have that Jesus was considered God by any Jews except Paul which makes him more of a Divine an then God?scottlittlefield17 wrote:What proof do you have that Jesus was considered God only much later in history?
A Davidic son of God would not make the person God as he would have been the adopted son of God which makes sense in a Jewish culture.
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The Holy Spirit
Post #28I can can tell you that to feel the Holy Spirit you have to be saved and accept Jesus Christ as your lord and savior. The holy Spirit reveals scripts from the bible to you more clearly the closer your relationship to god gets. A good analogy is: god is like the sun, Jesus is the light from it and the holy spirit is the warmth you feel. I read that in a book somewhere and I thought it was a wonderful way for me to teach it. I explained it to my daughter ( the little voice inside you that tells you whether or not you are doing something wrong or right. She didn't think she had that voice yet and then she did have a situation arise where the holy spirit guided her. Even though she choose not to listen at the time she looks back now and realized she should have. She is only seven. We are but baby Christians!
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Re: animating spirit
Post #29From my belief the holy spirit, heavenly father, and the Savior are seperate beings. The holy spirit is a being who helps guide us through our earthly life. Even more deeply, there are 3 layers to the holy spirit, 1st is the light of Christ, 2nd is the power of the holy ghost, and 3rd is the gift of the holy ghost.spiritletter wrote:I prefer a non-theological approach to the Holy Spirit. I think that when truth is animated that there is spirit present. I don't know how I know this or even if I do, but it seems futile to "define" the Holy Spirit along theological lines. Spirit does not need theology.
I guess it's something like the experience of poetry or great music or painting; we don't know exactly what is happening to us when we experience it.
Of course, what is non-rational in its value is subject to megalomania and abuse. I don't believe, for example, that the Holy Spirit has anything to do with spin or hype or powerful emotion. e.g.; that used by the Elmer Gantries of the world. It is powerful in another way. My reptile brain doesn't recognize it, but it makes my cortex hum. Or something.
Anyhow, I tried.
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Re: The Holy Spirit
Post #30The Holy Spirit is a spirit of holiness. It is an attitude and way of life in holiness, goodness, purity, etc.FinalEnigma wrote:My question here is 'what is the Holy Spirit?'
I've seen plenty of answers without having a satisfactory one. Jgh7 gave some good answers, but the thread didn't end up going anywhere.
please do not give circular or non-productive answers, but rather give a description of the Holy Spirit and what it does, and please be willing to answer lots of questions about it.
If you like Jgh7's answers in the other thread feel free to expand upon them or answer my latest questions I posed there. the thread is here. http://debatingchristianity.com/forum/v ... php?t=9083