Doctrine of God

B Bob · Post by **B Bob** » Mon Sep 12, 2016 12:58 pm

Is God only an invisible Spirit or is He also flesh (human)?

JehovahsWitness · Post by **JehovahsWitness** » Mon Sep 12, 2016 2:41 pm

B Bob wrote: [Replying to post 15 by JehovahsWitness]

Your last quote of this post is Rom 14:8, therefore I respond that Paul new the name of Jehovah - see Acts 26:15.

Paul refers to the same Lord in Acts 26 as he refers to in Rom 8. Therefore, you cannot have it both ways. Idf you believe Paul in Rom 8, you must believe Paul in Acts 26 when he declares the name of the Lord (Jehovah) is Jesus Christ. Right?

O I think I see what's going on here... Romans is my signature - it will appear at the bottom of all my posts (like a Motto) it isn't part of my reply to you.

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B Bob · Post by **B Bob** » Mon Sep 12, 2016 2:42 pm

[Replying to post 21 by JehovahsWitness]

Nothing, only that I responded because I thought you quoted Roman in support of your view. I now realize it is more or less a signature

B Bob · Post by **B Bob** » Mon Sep 12, 2016 2:44 pm

[Replying to post 12 by 2timothy316]

This post has no scriptural support. Please support your views with scripture and I will continue to do the same

JehovahsWitness · Post by **JehovahsWitness** » Mon Sep 12, 2016 2:45 pm

[Replying to post 22 by B Bob]

Yes, the penny dropped for us both at the same time...

B Bob · Post by **B Bob** » Mon Sep 12, 2016 2:46 pm

[Replying to post 11 by JehovahsWitness]

Do you have Scriptural support "humans are entirely different life form than God"? If not, your argument is invalid.

onewithhim · Post by **onewithhim** » Mon Sep 12, 2016 2:47 pm

B Bob wrote: [Replying to post 10 by onewithhim]

Firstly, I am not arguing that God is Spirit. I agree. However you keep quoting a scripture that declares God is Spirit, claiming God is spirit only because it doesn't say otherwise. It doesn't prove God is not also flesh. You cannot reasonably argue that God is not flesh because this scripture doesn't state this.

Man is not only flesh, but spirit also. Gen 1: 26-27 declares we are not only made in His image but His likeness. You can disregard this scripture at your own peril, but ignoring or reasoning away the scriptures only hides the truth.

Straw man arguments are useless to consider: such as God did not make man exactly like him. Ihe scripture does not say He did, so to make and argument against what you say id fallaciuis.

I am saying "God is spirit" because that is what the Scriptures say. I have reasoned about the idea that God might be a Person of flesh in my other posts, if you would be so kind as to respond. (Post #13, I believe.)

Man IS flesh, and he has the spirit of God "in" him to keep him alive. If you notice, Genesis says that God breathed into the man the BREATH OF LIFE. God didn't GIVE man "a spirit" that has separate consciousness from the physical man and separates at death to another realm where it continues to be conscious. Ecclesiastes 9:5 says that "the dead are conscious of nothing."

So we are not both flesh and spirit. "Spirit" relates to the breath of life from God, and also man's impelling mental inclination, the force that causes a person to display a certain attitude or emotion, just like Webster's Ninth New Collegiate Dictionary says of "spirit." (Temper or disposition of mind or outlook.)

Again, if studied carefully, "spirit" has nothing to do with a conscious ethereal being separating from a person upon death.

Nothing in Scripture says that God made man EXACTLY like Him. The arguments of myself, JehovahsWitness, tigger and 3Timothy are sound, and I hope you pay closer attention to them.

And would you respond to my post #13 & 17, as well as this one?

B Bob · Post by **B Bob** » Mon Sep 12, 2016 3:00 pm

[Replying to post 26 by onewithhim]

You seem to be unable to support your doctrine with scripture. And, you are arguing the straw man again. I never said God made man exactly like Him. You did, and now you argue against yourself.

Please stick to the actual claims of the scripture and explain them with scripture (2 Tim 3:16)

onewithhim · Post by **onewithhim** » Mon Sep 12, 2016 3:37 pm

B Bob wrote: [Replying to post 26 by onewithhim]

You seem to be unable to support your doctrine with scripture. And, you are arguing the straw man again. I never said God made man exactly like Him. You did, and now you argue against yourself.

Please stick to the actual claims of the scripture and explain them with scripture (2 Tim 3:16)

No, YOU indicated that God made man exactly like him. And I did support "my doctrine" with scripture. I can't help it if you don't read the posts.

B Bob · Post by **B Bob** » Mon Sep 12, 2016 3:40 pm

[Replying to post 28 by onewithhim]

I did not indicate God made man exactly like Himself. That was a straw man argument introduced by someone else. Please be civil?

B Bob · Post by **B Bob** » Mon Sep 12, 2016 3:41 pm

[Replying to post 28 by onewithhim]

I am new at posting and I might be confused to who said it, but it was not me