Is the bible the word of God

[daylight]

I found this debate on youtube, very nice and interesting. It is a debate itself, but the good thing is that we can even debate about the outcome or the topic. The debate is whether the Bible is the world of God or not. The debate is divided in the following order.

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[Greatest I Am]

If you cannot accept that God is Perfect then the question becomes, why would you search for or follow a God that was imperfect. This would allow room to be better than Him.

In a world where God exists, this would not be allowed.

Two problems here that I'd like to point out. You assert that someone would search for an imperfect God when you say "why would you search." Maybe God is imperfect and there's no point in searching for him that doesn't stop the fact that some people do search for him. This is a weird kind of circular reasoning that doesn't quite close back on itself.

"God must be perfect because people would only search and follow a perfect God. If God were imperfect, no one would search for him. Since people are searching, God must be perfect."

Secondly, you assert that nothing can be greater than God if he is perfect. If he were imperfect then something could be greater than him. That's specious if not irrelevant.

If God is imperfect, then I would want something to be capable of being better than him. That would be an improvement. If a better God came along (God's creator, for example) and booted God out, maybe we'd be better off.

This whole discussion is absolutely ludicrous. We're accusing God of being perfect when we can't yet accuse him of existing. It's like assigning attributes to a computer that doesn't exist. I'm sure God would like to have a say in the matter but he's too busy not interfering in the lives of humans and not answering prayers and not rewriting the Bible to take time out to discuss how perfect he is.

If God existed, and he claimed to be perfect, I'd call him a pretentious jerk.

He does and He is Perfect.
When I curse Him I usually use bastard as my curse for Him.
I allow this in myself because I like you think that a little interference would be timely. I to wish for an end time.

Regards
DL

[XaWN]

When I curse Him I usually use bastard as my curse for Him.

May I recommend a trick I used to use in my Christian days? Curse a different God; someone else's God. There's no danger. You don't upset Yaltaboath/Yaweh and you're certainly not worshiping a false idol by swearing at Zeus.

[Greatest I Am]

When I curse Him I usually use bastard as my curse for Him.

May I recommend a trick I used to use in my Christian days? Curse a different God; someone else's God. There's no danger. You don't upset Yaltaboath/Yaweh and you're certainly not worshiping a false idol by swearing at Zeus.

I think that all the gods have value. The worthy ones anyway. The ones with a good Bible.
If God id a God of inclusion and not exclusion it must be so. The only through Jesus is a false saying.

When I swear Him though, I am hoping for an effect.

He already knows my mind and I have touch His once only and this is frustrating. He proved His reality but big deal. Not many understand His ways. I try too explain it but most do not hear. Frustration.

Bibles are works of philosophy. Possibly inspired by God but man made.
They are a good guide for man. Especially the Christian Bibles. They ferment much discord and disagreement. Exactly what Jesus said He was here to do.
He must be a proud prophet.

Regards
DL

[Biker]

Christians do not do well in learned debates because they do not understand the Perfection of God's systems.

They fight the obvious power of God and show little faith in His power to do things right.

It is not surprising then that they wait for God to return and fix the problem He has created.

There is no problem and Christians are blind to this fact.

Regards
DL

If I would have made comments like that about homosexuals or unbelieving secularist religionists, I would have been called a bigot or gay basher or anti this or anti that.
Your comments are nothing but intolerant nonsense!
Not to mention unsubstantiated personal opinion.
Of which I could care less, unless you back it.

Biker

[Biker]

Of course the Bible is the word of God for many reasons, but the most important is God Himself affirms it to me by the witness of the Holy Spirit within me, and by revelation in His Word to me personally confirming by the Holy Spirit, when I read it and meditate on it!
Besides, it's inerrant!

Biker

[Greatest I Am]

Christians do not do well in learned debates because they do not understand the Perfection of God's systems.

They fight the obvious power of God and show little faith in His power to do things right.

It is not surprising then that they wait for God to return and fix the problem He has created.

There is no problem and Christians are blind to this fact.

Regards
DL

If I would have made comments like that about homosexuals or unbelieving secularist religionists, I would have been called a bigot or gay basher or anti this or anti that.
Your comments are nothing but intolerant nonsense!
Not to mention unsubstantiated personal opinion.
Of which I could care less, unless you back it.

Biker

Ask your Holy spirit if God produces Perfection or imperfection.
If Perfection, look about and recognize it. If imperfection then he is not god.

As to my critique of debating Christians, I did not discriminate or show intolerance. I mearly stated the obvious.

Regards
DL

[Biker]

Christians do not do well in learned debates because they do not understand the Perfection of God's systems.

They fight the obvious power of God and show little faith in His power to do things right.

It is not surprising then that they wait for God to return and fix the problem He has created.

There is no problem and Christians are blind to this fact.

Regards
DL

If I would have made comments like that about homosexuals or unbelieving secularist religionists, I would have been called a bigot or gay basher or anti this or anti that.
Your comments are nothing but intolerant nonsense!
Not to mention unsubstantiated personal opinion.
Of which I could care less, unless you back it.

Biker

Ask your Holy spirit if God produces Perfection or imperfection.
If Perfection, look about and recognize it. If imperfection then he is not god.

As to my critique of debating Christians, I did not discriminate or show intolerance. I mearly stated the obvious.

Regards
DL

Very poor excuses about my reference to your Christian intolerance.
It wasn't "critique" in my opinion.
"Obvious" to you maybe?

Are you saying that people are perfect?

Biker

[Greatest I Am]

Christians do not do well in learned debates because they do not understand the Perfection of God's systems.

They fight the obvious power of God and show little faith in His power to do things right.

It is not surprising then that they wait for God to return and fix the problem He has created.

There is no problem and Christians are blind to this fact.

Regards
DL

If I would have made comments like that about homosexuals or unbelieving secularist religionists, I would have been called a bigot or gay basher or anti this or anti that.
Your comments are nothing but intolerant nonsense!
Not to mention unsubstantiated personal opinion.
Of which I could care less, unless you back it.

Biker

Ask your Holy spirit if God produces Perfection or imperfection.
If Perfection, look about and recognize it. If imperfection then he is not god.

As to my critique of debating Christians, I did not discriminate or show intolerance. I mearly stated the obvious.

Regards
DL

Very poor excuses about my reference to your Christian intolerance.
It wasn't "critique" in my opinion.
"Obvious" to you maybe?

Are you saying that people are perfect?

Biker

Yes.

If God began in a Perfect universe then to not back slide He should be able to return and find that His initial Perfection is maintaining itself.
This is why He does not interfere unduly in our affairs.
As it was in the beginning it will be in the end.

We do strive for a better Perfection as scripture urges us to do but to say that God would ever lose His Perfection would not be correct.

It is to us to understand His ideas of Perfection and recognize that it is all about us at all times.

Few Christians see this and wait for Him to return and fix His Perfect works.

If not Perfect then God has screwed up on creating Perfect works. This is not allowed or posible for God.

Regards
DL

[daylight]

Most if not all of the comments are off topic. So after watching the debate do you think the bible is the word of God ? if yes then why..? if not then why..?

[Zzyzx]

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Most if not all of the comments are off topic. So after watching the debate do you think the bible is the word of God ? if yes then why..? if not then why..?

I do NOT think the bible is the word of god because:

1. It consists of writings by humans, gathered, edited, translated, transcribed, modified, revised and rewritten by humans. Most or all of the people involved are unknown, their veracity is unchecked, their motivations and agendas cannot be known.

2. The result is a book that represents the level of knowledge about nature that is representative of the era in which it was written or modified. There is no indication of influence by superior intelligence.

3. The work is poorly written if it was intended as a guide by "gods" for humans. Many of its statements make no sense unless they are “interpreted” by religionists according to their agendas.

4. Many errors of fact and many contradictions indicate that the writers were not relaying “the word of god” with any accuracy but were imparting their own limited knowledge, experience and objectives.

5. “Miracle” claims are incredible (too extraordinary and improbable to be believed) and cannot be verified – even though some, such as the claim that the Earth stopped rotating (“sun stood still”) would have been obvious worldwide (not to mention impossible within what is known of physics and astronomy).

6. Biblical claims are NOT supported by non-biblical (independent) sources.

7. Etc.