Crucific-xion or Cruci-fiction

[mms20102]

Completing the sit of debates I have started , this is the most controversial one

First debate was " Is Jesus God ?! " Majority agreement was " He is not " you can check here http://debatingchristianity.com/forum/v ... hp?t=30328

Second debate was Is Bible the word of god ?! " we got 2 major opinions :

1- Its not pure god revelation and its edited .

2- Some said its not a holybook and only human writings " which I personally oppose "

http://debatingchristianity.com/forum/v ... hp?t=30350

This debate will be third and its about was Jesus crucified ?

<<<<<<<<<Debate Rules >>>>>>>>>

1- Don't spam ideas with no proof or source
2- Don't argue the first 2 topics except in its original posts
3- Don't argue about the existence of Jesus or god its not our topic
4- Try to answer questions given to you before giving new ones or we will go to endless debate
5- If I don't know is your answer please learn then come and debate we don't need judges we need players
6- Stick to forum rules

Good Luck Everyone

[Tired of the Nonsense]

last thing I would like to say is the quran has made a challenge 1450 years ago and """""NON"""""" could compete .. it said if u doubt the revelation of quran make a perfect text like and in other point if you think that prophet mohamed made it up from other religions make up 10 chapters like it and no body could fulfill since its impossible to make something like it ..

Define "perfect text"?

I think Islam grew out of the Gnostic culture, as both groups are docetists.

Do you think so? Muslims regard Christ as prophet of Allah not as anything to do with divinity. Docetism is a heresy about Christ's human nature which Muslims don't contend.

The young Muhammad in his trading pursuits fell under the influence of a Nestorian priest and spoke to Jews. It is probably a mixture of what he recalled that formed the surprising verses known as the Koran. The result is an odd mixture of Biblical tales and half-regurgitated Christianity. The koranic version of the nativity is creatively entertaining.

don't you think that this is the section of debating Christianity and not islam ?

please try not to be deviated from the main topic

if u want we can make a new topic debating islam and quran

Your original question concerned establishing the plausibility of the crucifixion of Jesus. I simply pointed out that for 2 billion Muslims, roughly a third of the humans on this planet, the claim that Jesus was NOT crucified is built right into their belief system. Because it specifically says in their Holy book of revealed truth that Jesus was never crucified. This is a critical detail which seemed pertinent to your original question. Which is why I mentioned it, even though I personally find nothing especially implausible in the story of the crucifixion.

[Justin108]

last thing I would like to say is the quran has made a challenge 1450 years ago and """""NON"""""" could compete .. it said if u doubt the revelation of quran make a perfect text like and in other point if you think that prophet mohamed made it up from other religions make up 10 chapters like it and no body could fulfill since its impossible to make something like it ..

Define "perfect text"?

don't you think that this is the section of debating Christianity and not islam ?

please try not to be deviated from the main topic

if u want we can make a new topic debating islam and quran

You were the one that made the argument! If you didn't want to derail this thread, why did you tell us about this supposedly unbeatable challenge?

[mms20102]

[Replying to post 22 by Justin108]

Because I was trying to reply to a point only well I made a mistake don't follow mine

[mms20102]

[Replying to post 21 by Tired of the Nonsense]

I totally agree to your point we do believe this but I was trying to question the Christian belief and compare it to their own stories and prove that Christian story support Islamic viewpoint

Yet I guess that non-actually tried to examine my opinion rather than question that I'm Muslim and I speak about the bible !

[alexxcJRO]

[Replying to post 8 by mms20102]

That was an interesting read. Some good points indeed.
Waiting to see the Christians responses. Especially from our "great" experts and historians : "historia" and "liamconner".
I bet it will be fun to watch.