Dad, mom ...I'm ...um, I'm gay

[KCKID]

The title/subtitle says it all. This scenario must have occurred many, many times. We've all heard, read or seen instances of this and the types of responses that parents of their gay children have given. While we only seem to have a handful of vocal anti-gay Christians on this forum, I'm genuinely curious as to how they would react if their son or daughter came to them and told them that they're gay. Others, feel free to offer your input.

The question again: How would you (a Christian) respond to your son or your daughter coming out to you that they are gay? Without revealing any more than you need to, has this actually happened to any of you ...either as a gay son/daughter or as a parent?

[Joab]

[Replying to post 52 by Joab]

Congenital defects are what they are. Abnormalities. Only Adam (and Eve and a bunch of other people outside the Garden of Eden it seems) was created directly by God. Everyone else is made from the genetics of their parents. And as Cain shows, children can be accoutable for their own actions and behaviors. Notice Cain didn't blame God for making him a sociopath? And God didn't give him a congenital pass for having a murderous orientation?

This is a great example of why the myths in genesis are simply absurd if they are seen as anything other than what they are, myths. Taking this myth seriously as you do, you run into inescapable problems from the outset. In this story God gets it wrong from the very beginning. He creates rebellious and/or stupid people whose very first son is a jealous murderer, and according to you, a sociopath. These defective 'creations' continue to have character and genetic defects on a regular basis, but somehow you excuse God for all of this incompetence and lack of perfection.

Whether or not one believes in the God of Abraham, it is long past time to understand that these stories in Genesis are pure mythology.

Oh no just myths??? Can you prove that? So I suppose the magical explosion called the Big Bang that happened long long ago in a galaxy far far away is not a myth? Or hey how about the silly idea that random mindless chemicals just by random chance got together and some how formed a living cell....sounds kind of like the old spontaneous generation belief. Oh wait a minute what about the notion that our great great granddaddies were monkeys?? and if you go back far enough our ancestors were frogs or maybe algae?? So frogs really can become princes? You like fairy-tales and myths don't you?

Do you get your science from The Brothers Grim or from Hans Christian Anderson?

People might take you more seriously if you presented actual knowledge.

Man from monkeys, sheesh!

[help3434]

[Replying to post 57 by Sir Hamilton]

And what if she turns out to be a homosexual without choosing to be?

[KCKID]

[Replying to post 57 by Sir Hamilton]

And what if she turns out to be a homosexual without choosing to be?

As they do.

Most (?) Christians believe erroneously that no child of theirs could ever be gay by virtue of their being a child of a Christian. Not so, of course, and many a gay child has witnessed 'the fruits' (the good or the bad) of their Christian parents.

[KCKID]

The title/subtitle says it all. This scenario must have occurred many, many times. We've all heard, read or seen instances of this and the types of responses that parents of their gay children have given. While we only seem to have a handful of vocal anti-gay Christians on this forum, I'm genuinely curious as to how they would react if their son or daughter came to them and told them that they're gay. Others, feel free to offer your input.

The question again: How would you (a Christian) respond to your son or your daughter coming out to you that they are gay?

I would be disappointed and since they are my child then they would have known what i believed about homosexuality. I wouldn't have need of telling them how this lifestyle is sinful and rebellious to how the Creator intended mankind to live. I would tell them i love them and always will and will pray that they stop living that sinful lifestyle.

What would their knowing what YOU believed in have anything to do with reality? Do you realize that your response to them would be to "shame" them? Telling them 'you love' them while telling them they are 'sinful and rebellious' is a conflicting message that tells your children that your personal opinions are more important than who they are.

I am very proud of my mother, who is now in her 90's and a life long evangelical Christian, that she has had the courage and the compassion to counsel and show love and acceptance to the many Christian men and women of her church who were rejected by their own parents (many of whom were 'Christian' ministers) and accept them and love them after their own 'Christian' parents showed the attitude you express about their homosexuality. This attitude you describe places doctrine above love.

None of her own five children are homosexual, so she did not come to this compassionate and loving acceptance because of any personal or family obligation. She came to it solely because she is a loving and intelligent woman who is able to see thru the misleading cultural tissue that too often obscures the true message of Christ.

I intended addressing this post earlier but got caught up in other things. I simply want to say that your mother appears to bear the good fruits that we are to know them by.

That's all I wanted to say . . .

[Joab]

[Replying to post 57 by Sir Hamilton]

And what if she turns out to be a homosexual without choosing to be?

As they do.

Most (?) Christians believe erroneously that no child of theirs could ever be gay by virtue of their being a child of a Christian. Not so, of course, and many a gay child has witnessed 'the fruits' (the good or the bad) of their Christian parents.

I know of a young woman who went to her mother and told her that she was gay, to which the mother replied it would have been better if you'd been a prostitute.

Christianity in action.

[KCKID]

[Replying to post 57 by Sir Hamilton]

And what if she turns out to be a homosexual without choosing to be?

As they do.

Most (?) Christians believe erroneously that no child of theirs could ever be gay by virtue of their being a child of a Christian. Not so, of course, and many a gay child has witnessed 'the fruits' (the good or the bad) of their Christian parents.

I know of a young woman who went to her mother and told her that she was gay, to which the mother replied it would have been better if you'd been a prostitute.

Christianity in action.

Not always but too often it would seem.

[dianaiad]

So frogs really can become princes? You like fairy-tales and myths don't you?

Do you get your science from The Brothers Grim or from Hans Christian Anderson?

People might take you more seriously if you presented actual knowledge.

Man from monkeys, sheesh!

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[99percentatheism]

[Replying to post 57 by Sir Hamilton]

And what if she turns out to be a homosexual without choosing to be?

As they do.

Most (?) Christians believe erroneously that no child of theirs could ever be gay by virtue of their being a child of a Christian. Not so, of course, and many a gay child has witnessed 'the fruits' (the good or the bad) of their Christian parents.

I know of a young woman who went to her mother and told her that she was gay, to which the mother replied it would have been better if you'd been a prostitute.

Christianity in action.

Prostitutes repent. And they do not claim that a congenital condition excuses away their sins. I've met and spoke with several. Especially those in the Boys Town area of their cities that choose homosexual sex as a means to make an income.

"Go, and sin no more." Is not seen as hate speech to prostitutes. At least not yet anyway.

Truth in action.

How much power and authority does LGBT culture have over The Church anyway? I assert, absolutely none.

But I'd like your opinion. I'd be intersted to see how much you demand that the authority of homosexual activism and gay liberation weilds over Christianity.

[Joab]

[Replying to post 57 by Sir Hamilton]

And what if she turns out to be a homosexual without choosing to be?

As they do.

Most (?) Christians believe erroneously that no child of theirs could ever be gay by virtue of their being a child of a Christian. Not so, of course, and many a gay child has witnessed 'the fruits' (the good or the bad) of their Christian parents.

I know of a young woman who went to her mother and told her that she was gay, to which the mother replied it would have been better if you'd been a prostitute.

Christianity in action.

Prostitutes repent. And they do not claim that a congenital condition excuses away their sins. I've met and spoke with several. Especially those in the Boys Town area of their cities that choose homosexual sex as a means to make an income.

"Go, and sin no more." Is not seen as hate speech to prostitutes. At least not yet anyway.

Truth in action.

How much power and authority does LGBT culture have over The Church anyway? I assert, absolutely none.

But I'd like your opinion. I'd be intersted to see how much you demand that the authority of homosexual activism and gay liberation weilds over Christianity.

I never even offered an opinion, that exists only in the mind of the deluded.
What EXACTLY does my comment have to do with your insane belief that gays are trying to take over your pathetic little church.

Why would anyone with even a modicum of intellect want to control your tiny little church? Oh as a stepping stone to world domination?

Start minuscule and work up.

[Sir Hamilton]

Who is god?

I was under the impression you knew that, have you lost your faith?

I know who God is, but I wasn't sure which god you were referring to...there are many gods. We're you referring to God?

You have a particular god don't you? It was your hypothetical response to your hypothetical child to which I referred.

I don't understand why you are having so much difficulty with it.

Yes I am a child of YHWH, the Most High God. And as to your original question...you will find the answer in my response to the original question of this thread.

Why wouldn't you hug him/her and reassure them that that is the way god made them and god can do no wrong?

Does your god not create everything, can your god do no wrong?
I won't find answers to these in your previous posts as you claim.

Answers to your questions in order.
Because i don't want to lie to my child. Yes YHWH is the Creator. Everything God does is according to His will.

You will need to point out the lie to me, if you would.

Is your god the creator of everything was the question.

Does your last sentence mean that your god can do wrong?

Yes, of course, the lie would be to tell him that that is the way god (whoever god is) made him. Who is god?

So your god made everything except your gay child? Who made him/her?[/quote