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Is the Lord's Sabbath in the OT still for God's people in the NT?

Luk 23:56 And they returned, and prepared spices and ointments; and rested the sabbath day according to the commandment

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JehovahsWitness wrote: Sat Aug 17, 2024 7:29 am
Capbook wrote: Sat Aug 17, 2024 7:24 am Heb 8:10 God put His laws in His people's mind and written it in His people's hearts. Do you not consider yourself one of God's people?
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Heb 8:10 God put His laws in His people's mind and written it in His people's hearts.
Sorry, but God said it to His people.

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Capbook wrote: Sat Aug 17, 2024 7:34 am Heb 8:10 God put His laws in His people's mind and written it in His people's hearts.
Sorry, but God said it to His people.
There's no need to apologise, I agree. Did you have a point that was not about my personal relationship with God?
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JehovahsWitness wrote: Sat Aug 17, 2024 7:35 am
Capbook wrote: Sat Aug 17, 2024 7:34 am Heb 8:10 God put His laws in His people's mind and written it in His people's hearts.
Sorry, but God said it to His people.
There's no need to apologise, I agree. Did you have a point that was not about my personal relationship with God?
As you agree with Heb 8:10, my point is Sabbath is in that law that God give to His people.

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Capbook wrote: Sat Aug 17, 2024 7:39 am As you agree with Heb 8:10, my point is Sabbath is in that law that God give to His people.
No the Sabbath observation of a weekly Sabbath that prohibited work was part of the MOSAIC law that was written intially on tablets of stone and then on parchments (paper). The law Paul speaks about was a part of a new covenant between God and those that love God. This new arrangement was not written on stone tablets but symbolically written in the hearts of believing Christians.

Christians do not have to keep a weekly Sabbath, but can worship on any day of the week. Indeed their whole lives should be a "sabbath" since the real meaning of the Sabbath was to prioritize spiritual matters.


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JehovahsWitness wrote: Sat Aug 17, 2024 7:47 am
Capbook wrote: Sat Aug 17, 2024 7:39 am As you agree with Heb 8:10, my point is Sabbath is in that law that God give to His people.
No the Sabbath observation of a weekly Sabbath that prohibited work was part of the MOSAIC law that was written intially on tablets of stone and then on parchments (paper). The law Paul speaks about was a part of a new covenant between God and those that love God. This new arrangement was not written on stone tablets but symbolically written in the hearts of believing Christians.

Christians do not have to keep a weekly Sabbath, but can worship on any day of the week. Indeed their whole lives should be a "sabbath" since the real meaning of the Sabbath was to prioritize spiritual matters.


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Rest in Greek is Sabbatismos, EDNT lexicon define it as Sabbath observance, Sabbath rest.
And it is to the people of God.

Heb 4:9,10
9 There remaineth therefore a rest to the people of God.
10 For he that is entered into his rest, he also hath ceased from his own works, as God did from his.
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NT:4520
sabbatismo/$, ou=, o(<END GREEK> sabbatismos sabbath observance; sabbath rest
(from Exegetical Dictionary of the New Testament © 1990 by William B. Eerdmans Publishing Company. All rights reserved.)

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Capbook wrote: Sat Aug 17, 2024 7:58 amµ

Heb 4:9,10
9 There remaineth therefore a rest to the people of God.
10 For he that is entered into his rest, he also hath ceased from his own works, as God did from his.
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NT:4520
sabbatismo/$, ou=, o(<END GREEK> sabbatismos sabbath observance; sabbath rest
(from Exegetical Dictionary of the New Testament © 1990 by William B. Eerdmans Publishing Company. All rights reserved.)
Yes, Christians "rest" from worldly desires and dedicate themselves to God and spiritual matters not just one a week but every day.



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JehovahsWitness wrote: Sat Aug 17, 2024 8:04 am
Capbook wrote: Sat Aug 17, 2024 7:58 amµ

Heb 4:9,10
9 There remaineth therefore a rest to the people of God.
10 For he that is entered into his rest, he also hath ceased from his own works, as God did from his.
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NT:4520
sabbatismo/$, ou=, o(<END GREEK> sabbatismos sabbath observance; sabbath rest
(from Exegetical Dictionary of the New Testament © 1990 by William B. Eerdmans Publishing Company. All rights reserved.)
Yes, Christians "rest" from worldly desires and dedicate themselves to God and spiritual matters not just one a week but every day.

The period of rest, or Sabbath, for the children of God is the Millennium. There will be six one-thousand-year God days of work followed with a thousand-year period of rest or Sabbath.

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JehovahsWitness wrote: Fri Aug 16, 2024 12:31 pm God still keeps what? Did you have a scripture in mind?
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JehovahsWitness wrote: Fri Aug 16, 2024 12:25 pm There is no exception in the Mosaic law, sacrifices (at least 3 a year) were obligatory.
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1213 wrote: Sun Aug 18, 2024 1:50 am
JehovahsWitness wrote: Fri Aug 16, 2024 12:25 pm There is no exception in the Mosaic law, sacrifices (at least 3 a year) were obligatory.
Please give the scripture, where is that said?
DEUTERONOMY 16:16

“Three times a year, all your males should appear before Jehovah your God in the place that he chooses: at the Festival of Unleavened Bread, the Festival of Weeks, and the Festival of Booths
NUMBERS 29:7-38

“And on the tenth of this seventh month, you should hold a holy convention ... and you will present as a burnt offering to Jehovah, as a pleasing aroma, one young bull, one ram, and seven male lambs each a year old, all of them sound.+ 9 And as their grain offering of fine flour mixed with oil, three tenth measures for the bull, two tenth measures for the one ram, 10 a tenth measure respectively for each male lamb of the seven male lambs, 11 as well as one young goat as a sin offering, aside from the sin offering of atonement+ and the regular burnt offering and its grain offering, together with their drink offerings” - Numbers 29:7-38
HEBREWS 9:22

Yes, according to the Law nearly all things are cleansed with blood, and unless blood is poured out no forgiveness takes place.
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