Sura 4:136 - O you who believe, you shall believe in GOD and His messenger, and the scripture He has revealed through His messenger, and the scripture He has revealed before that. Anyone who refuses to believe in GOD, and His angels, and His scriptures, and His messengers, and the Last Day, has indeed strayed far astray.
If the Quran advises Muslims to "believe...the scripture He has revealed before that", why don't they believe the Bible?
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Actually, the only thing that you did was to google some ayahs and then cut-n-paste them as a reply.TrueReligion wrote:
I discuss already, and posted already, now if you can;t understand simple english, its not my problem,
When pressed to actually go through the ayahs, you become upset and run.
This is, once again, pure islamic myth.you are afraid to accept that Quran is the truth, and bible is fake, so what I can do. Islam tells no compulsion in religion, I can;t force you to accept it. If you dont want to understand, thn dont understand, just its a req, dont bring false meanings and interpretations of Quran.
And also please write Quran, its not Koran:)
No where in the entire Koran, does it state that the Holy Bible is "fake".
Time to put aside your emotions and be honest with yourself, brother...
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haha, you want me to show you verses, where its mention that people changed annd tempered the scripture sent by God? make another thread for bible, I will show you how many errors are there in bible . and wil show you with your own christian scholars and theologians.Apple Pie wrote:Actually, the only thing that you did was to google some ayahs and then cut-n-paste them as a reply.TrueReligion wrote:
I discuss already, and posted already, now if you can;t understand simple english, its not my problem,
When pressed to actually go through the ayahs, you become upset and run.
No, because you dont want to accept it, I told already I can;t impose thoughts on you, unlike you are ddoing:) so there is no point of discussion::)
you are afraid to accept that Quran is the truth, and bible is fake, so what I can do. Islam tells no compulsion in religion, I can;t force you to accept it. If you dont want to understand, thn dont understand, just its a req, dont bring false meanings and interpretations of Quran.
And also please write Quran, its not Koran:)
This is, once again, pure islamic myth.
No where in the entire Koran, does it state that the Holy Bible is "fake".
Time to put aside your emotions and be honest with yourself, brother...
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In no place in the bible does it say that the Vedas are fake.Apple Pie wrote: This is, once again, pure islamic myth.
No where in the entire Koran, does it state that the Holy Bible is "fake".
Time to put aside your emotions and be honest with yourself, brother...
In no place in the bible does it say that the Quran is fake.
The truth or falsehood of the Bible, the Vedas and the Quran is not dependent on what
the scriptures of other religions say about it.
Somehow, since you are using very bad translations of the Bible , and take words out of context to 'prove' the trinity is in the Jewish scriptures.
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Show us here, brother...in the original Arabic...TrueReligion wrote:
haha, you want me to show you verses, where its mention that people changed annd tempered the scripture sent by God? make another thread for bible, I will show you how many errors are there in bible . and wil show you with your own christian scholars and theologians.
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As the general members here , dont know arabic, and as you are very famous for changing the texts in your interpretation, only english translation will be posted here, from authentic source.Apple Pie wrote:Show us here, brother...in the original Arabic...TrueReligion wrote:
haha, you want me to show you verses, where its mention that people changed annd tempered the scripture sent by God? make another thread for bible, I will show you how many errors are there in bible . and wil show you with your own christian scholars and theologians.
"Know they not Allah Knoweth what they conceal and what they reveal? And there are among them illiterates, who know not the Book but (see therein their own) desires, and they do nothing but conjecture. Then woe to those who write the Book with their own hands, and then say: 'This is from Allah,' to traffic with it for a miserable price! Woe to them for what their hands do write, and for the gain they make thereby. (The Noble Qur'an, 2:77-79)
The Book refers to the book of the People of the Book(aka Men of Faith), which section 9 in Chapter 2 talks about. The Noble Qur'an clearly says that the Book was corrupted by men, those who write the Book with their own hands, and then say: 'This is from Allah,. It cant get any clearer then that!
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TrueReligion wrote:As the general members here , dont know arabic, and as you are very famous for changing the texts in your interpretation, only english translation will be posted here, from authentic source.Apple Pie wrote:Show us here, brother...in the original Arabic...TrueReligion wrote:
haha, you want me to show you verses, where its mention that people changed annd tempered the scripture sent by God? make another thread for bible, I will show you how many errors are there in bible . and wil show you with your own christian scholars and theologians.
"Know they not Allah Knoweth what they conceal and what they reveal? And there are among them illiterates, who know not the Book but (see therein their own) desires, and they do nothing but conjecture. Then woe to those who write the Book with their own hands, and then say: 'This is from Allah,' to traffic with it for a miserable price! Woe to them for what their hands do write, and for the gain they make thereby. (The Noble Qur'an, 2:77-79)
The Book refers to the book of the People of the Book(aka Men of Faith), which section 9 in Chapter 2 talks about. The Noble Qur'an clearly says that the Book was corrupted by men, those who write the Book with their own hands, and then say: 'This is from Allah,. It cant get any clearer then that!
Where is the Arabic brother?
You have to be able to relate your googled renderings to the original Arabic.
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Told you, no comments will be provided to you, unless you learn the mannners and ethics of debate.Apple Pie wrote:TrueReligion wrote:As the general members here , dont know arabic, and as you are very famous for changing the texts in your interpretation, only english translation will be posted here, from authentic source.Apple Pie wrote:Show us here, brother...in the original Arabic...TrueReligion wrote:
haha, you want me to show you verses, where its mention that people changed annd tempered the scripture sent by God? make another thread for bible, I will show you how many errors are there in bible . and wil show you with your own christian scholars and theologians.
"Know they not Allah Knoweth what they conceal and what they reveal? And there are among them illiterates, who know not the Book but (see therein their own) desires, and they do nothing but conjecture. Then woe to those who write the Book with their own hands, and then say: 'This is from Allah,' to traffic with it for a miserable price! Woe to them for what their hands do write, and for the gain they make thereby. (The Noble Qur'an, 2:77-79)
The Book refers to the book of the People of the Book(aka Men of Faith), which section 9 in Chapter 2 talks about. The Noble Qur'an clearly says that the Book was corrupted by men, those who write the Book with their own hands, and then say: 'This is from Allah,. It cant get any clearer then that!
Where is the Arabic brother?
You have to be able to relate your googled renderings to the original Arabic.
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Arabic of Quran is crystal clear, what meaning you are deriving, is not clear and not correct:)Apple Pie wrote:Is the Arabic clear?TrueReligion wrote: Told you, no comments will be provided to you, unless you learn the mannners and ethics of debate.
