Do Christians have a moral obligation to stop Islam?

[Flail]

If a Christian has a personal relationship with the 'One True God', knows Jesus as Savior and Messiah and that the Bible is divine and inerrant, doesn't that Christian have a moral obligation to stop Islam? For example, would it not be a moral imperative for that Christian to take any necessary step to prevent a child from being indoctrinated as a Muslim? Would that not akin to standing by and watching as the child ingests poison?

Question for debate:
Do Christians have a moral obligation to stop to Islam?

[WinePusher]

B-O-H instead of spilling insults which no one actually gives any weight to(this is the internet so its full of ignorant people), would you like to have a debate with me? The title can be: "Whats more logical, Islam or Christianity?"

You don't sound to me like you know what the Koran or the NT. Are you asking me if logic had anything to do with Muhammad's approach to writing the Koran? think it's logical to think sure he thiought it "logical" to do all the evil things he did and get away with it by forcing people to love him, and cover up the deeds. idk is that logical? You tell me.

Check mate. Besides insults you have nothing.

And btw, i know more about the Bible than you think, i can quote biblical references off my head. Can you do that?

I just don't understand what kind of "logic" you are talking about. Which one is more "Logical"? It just doesn't make a lot of sense. We could try to understand Muhammad and what was in his mind when he decided to lie about Jesus. What kind of man Jesus was is great. We agree on that. Who is this Muhammad charecture?

Personally, I'm very impressed with Murad's knowledge of the Bible and Christianity in general. I think we agree that there are aspects of Islam that we frown upon as Muslims would do to us as well, but we should be able to "fight" Islam in the arena of ideas and substance rather then demagouging and personally insulting its followers which is counterproductive to the Christian message.

[Murad]

If I get banned for calling Muhammad a dooshbag, I'm cool with that. It isn't about insulting so much as it is about anger. Remember that. I have anger towards him. Let the whole world know. I'm happy wit it.

Perhaps you are not aware that that word is vulgar. Some people, especially the younger ones, are unaware that it actually means something. Here is the definition:

douche bag
-noun
small syringe having detachable nozzles for fluid injections, used chiefly for vaginal lavage and for enemas.

As a professing Christian, getting banned for vulgar language is not suffering persecution, and certainly wouldn't be something to be proud of. It would bring dishonor to our Lord. Not to mention it is a violation of Scripture.

Let there be no filthiness nor foolish talk nor crude joking, which are out of place, but instead let there be thanksgiving. For you may be sure of this, that everyone who is sexually immoral or impure, or who is covetous (that is, an idolater), has no inheritance in the kingdom of Christ and God.

Finally, brothers, whatever is true, whatever is honorable, whatever is just, whatever is pure, whatever is lovely, whatever is commendable, if there is any excellence, if there is anything worthy of praise, think about these things.

Adding to that, if you claim to love and follow Jesus, why would you act in such an idiotic manner?

By nature, if you are Islammic, you are antichcist, and if you are Christian, you are antiIslam.

Islam sees anyone that disobeys Jesus' preaching as "Anti-Christs", Jesus preached the worshipping of 1 God, the God of Abraham. Not a trinitarian God that was invented by Teritullian.

[horiturk]

in response to the personal relationship with God thing.....people can claim all they want that they know God personally but they are simply hallucinating. God doesn't leave little notes or send emails and prayer is most definitely a one sided affair.

[East of Eden]

And btw, i know more about the Bible than you think, i can quote biblical references off my head. Can you do that?

Satan can do that too.

[East of Eden]

in response to the personal relationship with God thing.....people can claim all they want that they know God personally but they are simply hallucinating. God doesn't leave little notes or send emails and prayer is most definitely a one sided affair.

And you know that how? I suspect only because you don't have such a relationship.

[East of Eden]

Islam sees anyone that disobeys Jesus' preaching as "Anti-Christs", Jesus preached the worshipping of 1 God, the God of Abraham. Not a trinitarian God that was invented by Teritullian.

We've been over this, but Jesus claimed to be God many times, and said he was without sin. This is the very reason His Jewish enemies wanted to kill Him.

http://www.greatcom.org/resources/tough ... answer.htm


Why does Islam say Jesus never died on the cross when we have contemporary non-Christian historical sources than confirm that He did?

[cnorman18]

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I would recommend that we all stop reading each others' minds and comparing each others' mutually exclusive holy books, which activities are neither probative nor persuasive, and get back to debating the OP.

[JoeyKnothead]

Why does Islam say Jesus never died on the cross when we have contemporary non-Christian historical sources than confirm that He did?

Please present relevant data for the above emboldened section for examination.

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[micatala]

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And btw, i know more about the Bible than you think, i can quote biblical references off my head. Can you do that?

Satan can do that too.

Comparing a forum member to Satan is not civil and arguably insulting.

[Vanguard]

If a Christian has a personal relationship with the 'One True God', knows Jesus as Savior and Messiah and that the Bible is divine and inerrant, doesn't that Christian have a moral obligation to stop Islam? For example, would it not be a moral imperative for that Christian to take any necessary step to prevent a child from being indoctrinated as a Muslim? Would that not akin to standing by and watching as the child ingests poison?

Question for debate:

Do Christians have a moral obligation to stop Islam?

IMO, Christians should not be viewing any efforts to spread the "good news" as an obligation. When I was a full-time Mormon missionary in Brazil I did not look at my efforts as obligatory. At that time, they were exactly what I wanted to be doing. Now that I've more than doubled! my life since that mission I do find it more challenging (my life is much more complicated now than when I was 20) to seek out those who would be interested in the message. I look at it more like a desire to find a bit of that old time energy I experienced as a missionary within the current context of a man saddled with considerably more stewardship - a stewardship that has nothing directly to do with proselyting to the masses.

Furthermore, your listed reasons for why a Christian should stop Islam's indoctrination sounds like reasons for trying to stop anyone from believing anything else but the message of Christianity. Why stop with Islam? According to your stated reasoning wouldn't anyone be ingesting poison who did not accept the Savior? I would submit that perhaps different beliefs on these matters are not that poisonous after all - more literalist interpretations of Biblical passages notwithstanding.

I agree there is a premium on spreading the gospel message though what that might look like varies from person to person due to the contextual variables of that person's life. "Any necessary step" as you have stated would have me virtually if not literally eschewing most if not all of my current obligations to pursue this one mandate. The premium of spreading the gospel message does not happen in a vacuum apart from the many other "premiums" I have now accepted into my life (i.e., the spritiual progress of my wife and children, a means to materially support them, my duties to my fellow congregants, and so on and so on).