If a Christian has a personal relationship with the 'One True God', knows Jesus as Savior and Messiah and that the Bible is divine and inerrant, doesn't that Christian have a moral obligation to stop Islam? For example, would it not be a moral imperative for that Christian to take any necessary step to prevent a child from being indoctrinated as a Muslim? Would that not akin to standing by and watching as the child ingests poison?
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Do Christians have a moral obligation to stop to Islam?
Do Christians have a moral obligation to stop Islam?
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Post #291
ANyone that sides with Muhammad absorbs the deity of Muhammad in his ignorance, and selfish need to control people. If you stick up for Islam, and proclaim the Koran has ANYTHING to do with compassion, you become a part of the the phenomenon it is, and you further perpetuate the lie. i.e. You become Muhammad. You are in Communion with him.
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Post #292
Can you offer support/argument/evidence for your claim here that Mohammed was ignorant, selfish and had a need to personally control other people?B-O-H wrote:ANyone that sides with Muhammad absorbs the deity of Muhammad in his ignorance, and selfish need to control people. If you stick up for Islam, and proclaim the Koran has ANYTHING to do with compassion, you become a part of the the phenomenon it is, and you further perpetuate the lie. i.e. You become Muhammad. You are in Communion with him.
Post #293
Judgiing God. Muhammad felt like he knew better than all the media, had no faith in the NT, Jesus, God, people in general..etc.... and was an Atheist. When he goes on to presume that he somehow knew better who God should love and who he should hate, that's when the Paganism started. "There is no "God" you speak of, let me tell you who God REALLY is". Atheistic/Paganism.
Post #295
horiturk wrote:And you know that how? I suspect only because you don't have such a relationship.
oh and you do? please tell me about your personal relationship with God?[/quote]
It iv very, very, clear he had no faith in Jesus, God, or the NT. Otherwise he wouldn't distort things in the ut-most profound ways as he did. I run into people JUST LIKE him every day, and it is the current Muhammad in them they must rid themselves of of. He was like any dude that that lacks faith in things we NEED to have faith in. And has faith in things that no-one should be having faith in.
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Post #296
http://www.agapebiblestudy.com/document ... 0Jesus.htmJoeyKnothead wrote:Please present relevant data for the above emboldened section for examination.East of Eden wrote:
Why does Islam say Jesus never died on the cross when we have contemporary non-Christian historical sources than confirm that He did?
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"We are fooling ourselves if we imagine that we can ever make the authentic Gospel popular......it is too simple in an age of rationalism; too narrow in an age of pluralism; too humiliating in an age of self-confidence; too demanding in an age of permissiveness; and too unpatriotic in an age of blind nationalism." Rev. John R.W. Stott, CBE
Post #297
I'm not saying this because I am angry= But Islam is an abomination, and a perversion of God. God is, understandably very angry with him. God does not like anyone lying, kidnapping, and brainwashing. It hurts God to have his love for them perverted. Try to put yourself in God's shoes. What if it was your son who is being lied about in the ways Muhammad does? It would friken hurt like hell. We are becomming enlightened into God's anger by getting to know the personal relationship Muhammad had/has with God, and what the rammifications are for being Muhammad-like. It is time for them to absorb the deity of Christ and repent.
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Post #298
From Post 296:
Please explain how a link to a website is some means to verify the veracity of the above embolded statement.East of Eden wrote: Why does Islam say Jesus never died on the cross when we have contemporary non-Christian historical sources than confirm that He did?http://www.agapebiblestudy.com/document ... 0Jesus.htmJoeyKnothead wrote: Please present relevant data for the above emboldened section for examination.
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Post #299
From Post 297:
1st challenge.
1st challenge.
1st challenge.
I'll leave the rest of the preaching be for now.
I challenge you to show you speak truth.B-O-H wrote: I'm not saying this because I am angry= But Islam is an abomination, and a perversion of God.
1st challenge.
I challenge you to show you speak truth.B-O-H wrote: God is, understandably very angry with him. God does not like anyone lying, kidnapping, and brainwashing.
1st challenge.
I challenge you to show that is a true statement.B-O-H wrote: It hurts God to have his love for them perverted.
1st challenge.
I'll leave the rest of the preaching be for now.
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Post #300
More to the point, none of the sources quoted is "contemporary," which in this case would be dated to 30 CE.JoeyKnothead wrote:From Post 296:
Please explain how a link to a website is some means to verify the veracity of the above embolded statement.East of Eden wrote: Why does Islam say Jesus never died on the cross when we have contemporary non-Christian historical sources than confirm that He did?http://www.agapebiblestudy.com/document ... 0Jesus.htmJoeyKnothead wrote: Please present relevant data for the above emboldened section for examination.
I say again; comparing mutually exclusive holy books is not probative. I don't expect either the Bible or the Quran to be proven false or true today.
