If a Christian has a personal relationship with the 'One True God', knows Jesus as Savior and Messiah and that the Bible is divine and inerrant, doesn't that Christian have a moral obligation to stop Islam? For example, would it not be a moral imperative for that Christian to take any necessary step to prevent a child from being indoctrinated as a Muslim? Would that not akin to standing by and watching as the child ingests poison?
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Do Christians have a moral obligation to stop to Islam?
Do Christians have a moral obligation to stop Islam?
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I'll give you a hint.. it doesn't. The oldest source is a 4th century insertion, also known as a forgeryJoeyKnothead wrote:From Post 296:
Please explain how a link to a website is some means to verify the veracity of the above embolded statement.East of Eden wrote: Why does Islam say Jesus never died on the cross when we have contemporary non-Christian historical sources than confirm that He did?http://www.agapebiblestudy.com/document ... 0Jesus.htmJoeyKnothead wrote: Please present relevant data for the above emboldened section for examination.
Not one of those sources are contemporary.
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The statement "Islam is an abomination and a perversion of God", presented as factual and without even a shred of evidence to back it up, however, is nothing more than a collective attack on all muslims. If nothing more, it's an uncivil, unsupported statement.
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You're free to express dislike of any religion or (non-)belief system here, as long as you clearly express it as personal opinion.B-O-H wrote:I'm not saying this because I am angry= But Islam is an abomination, and a perversion of God. God is, understandably very angry with him. God does not like anyone lying, kidnapping, and brainwashing. It hurts God to have his love for them perverted.
The statement "Islam is an abomination and a perversion of God", presented as factual and without even a shred of evidence to back it up, however, is nothing more than a collective attack on all muslims. If nothing more, it's an uncivil, unsupported statement.
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Lucia wrote:Moderator Warning
You're free to express dislike of any religion or (non-)belief system here, as long as you clearly express it as personal opinion.B-O-H wrote:I'm not saying this because I am angry= But Islam is an abomination, and a perversion of God. God is, understandably very angry with him. God does not like anyone lying, kidnapping, and brainwashing. It hurts God to have his love for them perverted.
The statement "Islam is an abomination and a perversion of God", presented as factual and without even a shred of evidence to back it up, however, is nothing more than a collective attack on all muslims. If nothing more, it's an uncivil, unsupported statement.
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lol. This is halarious. Muhammad proclaiming Jesus was a liar when he referred to himself as the son of God, and Muhammad proclaiming Jesus never suffered and died on the cross, is an abomination, and perversion of God. Muhammad teaches that Jesus was nothing but a false prophet who used smoke and mirrors to make it appear like he was crucified (a "prophet" who Allah loves!). The lies Muhammad tells is antichrist in nature. No savior. Just a lyer and deciever. That is an abomination, a lie, a perversion of who God is. Does God love a false prophet who uses deception, and lies, as Muhammad proclaims? Look in Revelations as to how God feels about the false prophet, and antichrist. The Koran was born out of lack of faith in things he should have faith in. He was like any atheistic, non-believer making up stuff to better fit his cause.
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Can you please stop saying the same thing over and over again?B-O-H wrote: lol. This is halarious. Muhammad proclaiming Jesus was a liar when he referred to himself as the son of God, and Muhammad proclaiming Jesus never suffered and died on the cross, is an abomination, and perversion of God. Muhammad teaches that Jesus was nothing but a false prophet who used smoke and mirrors to make it appear like he was crucified (a "prophet" who Allah loves!). The lies Muhammad tells is antichrist in nature. No savior. Just a lyer and deciever. That is an abomination, a lie, a perversion of who God is. Does God love a false prophet who uses deception, and lies, as Muhammad proclaims? Look in Revelations as to how God feels about the false prophet, and antichrist. The Koran was born out of lack of faith in things he should have faith in. He was like any atheistic, non-believer making up stuff to better fit his cause.
Plus, if you keep this up and you will get banned. All you have shown is your own ignorance, and your hurting the christian apologetics.
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B-O-H wrote:Lucia wrote:Moderator Warning
You're free to express dislike of any religion or (non-)belief system here, as long as you clearly express it as personal opinion.B-O-H wrote:I'm not saying this because I am angry= But Islam is an abomination, and a perversion of God. God is, understandably very angry with him. God does not like anyone lying, kidnapping, and brainwashing. It hurts God to have his love for them perverted.
The statement "Islam is an abomination and a perversion of God", presented as factual and without even a shred of evidence to back it up, however, is nothing more than a collective attack on all muslims. If nothing more, it's an uncivil, unsupported statement.
You're on the highway to probation here. If you have any intention of staying in this forum, I strongly suggest you read and abide by our rules.
lol. This is halarious. Muhammad proclaiming Jesus was a liar when he referred to himself as the son of God, and Muhammad proclaiming Jesus never suffered and died on the cross, is an abomination, and perversion of God. Muhammad teaches that Jesus was nothing but a false prophet who used smoke and mirrors to make it appear like he was crucified (a "prophet" who Allah loves!). The lies Muhammad tells is antichrist in nature. No savior. Just a lyer and deciever. That is an abomination, a lie, a perversion of who God is. Does God love a false prophet who uses deception, and lies, as Muhammad proclaims? Look in Revelations as to how God feels about the false prophet, and antichrist. The Koran was born out of lack of faith in things he should have faith in. He was like any atheistic, non-believer making up stuff to better fit his cause.
All you have to do from there is, put yourself in God's shoes. What if you had a son that was tortured, beaten, stabbed, nailed to a cross, and left for dead. And some years later, have a preacher teaching everyone that your son was a liar and never suffered. Muhammad had NO compassion for Jesus, or anyone who cared about him. It was written out of a complete lack of compassion. How do you think that makes God feel? What does the NT say about the false prophet. Look into it, it suggests God's pretty pissed, and I don't blame him.
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What about all the religions that believe the Jesus story is fake? What about atheists who believe the religion is as baseless and has as much proof as fairies do.B-O-H wrote:B-O-H wrote: lol. This is halarious. Muhammad proclaiming Jesus was a liar when he referred to himself as the son of God, and Muhammad proclaiming Jesus never suffered and died on the cross, is an abomination, and perversion of God. Muhammad teaches that Jesus was nothing but a false prophet who used smoke and mirrors to make it appear like he was crucified (a "prophet" who Allah loves!). The lies Muhammad tells is antichrist in nature. No savior. Just a lyer and deciever. That is an abomination, a lie, a perversion of who God is. Does God love a false prophet who uses deception, and lies, as Muhammad proclaims? Look in Revelations as to how God feels about the false prophet, and antichrist. The Koran was born out of lack of faith in things he should have faith in. He was like any atheistic, non-believer making up stuff to better fit his cause.
All you have to do from there is, put yourself in God's shoes. What if you had a son that was tortured, beaten, stabbed, nailed to a cross, and left for dead. And some years later, have a preacher teaching everyone that your son was a liar and never suffered. Muhammad had NO compassion for Jesus, or anyone who cared about him. It was written out of a complete lack of compassion. How do you think that makes God feel? What does the NT say about the false prophet. Look into it, it suggests God's pretty pissed, and I don't blame him.
Why limit yourself to Islam? Your discriminating because your directing your hatred at one group when you should be directing it at all other groups.
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Actually, if I recall correctly, he was calling the people who wrote the Bible liars, not Christ, whom by all indications he considered a very important prophet of God and had a lot of respect for.B-O-H wrote: What if you had a son that was tortured, beaten, stabbed, nailed to a cross, and left for dead. And some years later, have a preacher teaching everyone that your son was a liar and never suffered.
Please define compassion and support your claim that Muhammad had none with some evidence.B-O-H wrote: Muhammad had NO compassion for Jesus, or anyone who cared about him. It was written out of a complete lack of compassion.
If God is all-knowing (and I would state God wouldn't be a very good one if God is not), then he fully understands the reasons behind Muhammad thinking what he did, in which case I highly doubt he's all that pissed.B-O-H wrote: How do you think that makes God feel? What does the NT say about the false prophet. Look into it, it suggests God's pretty pissed, and I don't blame him.
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But I tell you the truth: It is for your good that I am going away. Unless I go away, the Counselor will not come to you; but if I go, I will send him to you. When he comes, he will convict the world of guilt in regard to sin and righteousness and judgment: in regard to sin, because men do not believe in me(as what he really is); in regard to righteousness, because I am going to the Father, where you can see me no longer; and in regard to judgment, because the prince of this world now stands condemned.
I have much more to say to you, MORE THAN YOU CAN NOW BEAR. But when he, the Spirit of TRUTH, comes, he will guide you into all truth. HE WILL NOT SPEAK ON HIS OWN; he will speak only what he hears, and he will tell you what is yet to come.
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Do the people think that they will be left to say, "We believe" without being put to the test?
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Post #309
He did. It is called the New Testament. Period.Murad wrote:But I tell you the truth: It is for your good that I am going away. Unless I go away, the Counselor will not come to you; but if I go, I will send him to you. When he comes, he will convict the world of guilt in regard to sin and righteousness and judgment: in regard to sin, because men do not believe in me(as what he really is); in regard to righteousness, because I am going to the Father, where you can see me no longer; and in regard to judgment, because the prince of this world now stands condemned.
I have much more to say to you, MORE THAN YOU CAN NOW BEAR. But when he, the Spirit of TRUTH, comes, he will guide you into all truth. HE WILL NOT SPEAK ON HIS OWN; he will speak only what he hears, and he will tell you what is yet to come.
(John 16:7-13 )
Acts 13:48 And when the Gentiles heard this, they began rejoicing and glorifying the word of the Lord, and as many as were appointed to eternal life believed.


