It seems all people do here is attack God.
It should be called an "atheist" debate site. It's most probably to get Christians to come into the lions den.
Why is this called a " Christian DEbate site"
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Re: Why is this called a " Christian DEbate site"
Post #11I don't think I have a problem with warning anybody regardless of their belief system.Tex wrote: You have no problems warning Christians every second.....
Sure, as long as it's civil and respectful. I have no problems with people stating that God doesn't exist or that the Bible is false. But, if they are willing to state that, then they'd better be prepared to defend that belief.But anyone could say anything about God....and you don't care.
You keep on saying that, but it's obviously not true.This is an atheist site.
What do you expect here, for everyone to believe in God and that the Bible is God's word to man? Since this forum welcomes everybody, this obviously would not apply to everyone.
This is not a church here. This is a debating forum. And a church is not a debating forum.If you went into a Church and started spuing bad things about God like they do here.....
Re: Why is this called a " Christian DEbate site"
Post #12otseng wrote:I don't think I have a problem with warning anybody regardless of their belief system.Tex wrote: You have no problems warning Christians every second.....
Sure, as long as it's civil and respectful. I have no problems with people stating that God doesn't exist or that the Bible is false. But, if they are willing to state that, then they'd better be prepared to defend that belief.But anyone could say anything about God....and you don't care.
You keep on saying that, but it's obviously not true.This is an atheist site.
What do you expect here, for everyone to believe in God and that the Bible is God's word to man? Since this forum welcomes everybody, this obviously would not apply to everyone.
This is not a church here. This is a debating forum. And a church is not a debating forum.If you went into a Church and started spuing bad things about God like they do here.....
I can see that! This sure no Church. As for debate....Church folk do debate, or use to.
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To be honest, I have learned more about Christianity and what I really believe on this site in the past year than I did in church in the 44 years before that. Reason being, I have had to defend my faith instead of being surrounded by people who think like I do. In many ways this has caused me to shift my beliefs a bit and to become more open minded towards different beliefs.
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26 For what profit is it to a man if he gains the whole world, and loses his own soul? Or what will a man give in exchange for his soul?
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I wouldn't say anything less than the truth. This site doesn't favor ANY religious views. Its not a christian site, or an atheist site. Its neutral. You are free to present any argument you wish, but it WILL be challenged, as will your beliefs. These are not attacks against god, they are debates about god or religion. If you don't want your beliefs questioned, if you don't believe they are questionable, then perhaps this is not the site for you.Tex wrote:I wouldn't expect you to say any different.Richard81 wrote: Its a debate forum. People debate things in a debate forum. What your calling 'attacks on god' are actually debates. Of course, you are free to defend your beliefs against arguments against it, in a debate forum, if you can. But I suppose, if you can't, it would be like a lions den.
"Faith is the attempt to coerce truth to surrender to whim. In simple terms, it is trying to breathe life into a lie by trying to outshine reality with the beauty of wishes. Faith is the refuge of fools, the ignorant, and the deluded, not of thinking, rational men." - Terry Goodkind.
Re: Why is this called a " Christian DEbate site"
Post #16I get what you're saying and it doesn't feel like a christian site to me either but I appreciate it for what its worth... a microcosm of the world.Tex wrote:AdHoc wrote:I wonder what the breakdown is? Does anyone know? It does seem like Christians are in the minority but that's probably a good thing.Tex wrote: It seems all people do here is attack God.
It should be called an "atheist" debate site. It's most probably to get Christians to come into the lions den.
Why would they say much??? Without DNA from God we can't say anything.
The evidence that has been around for thousand of years is never good enough.
No DNA.....No good.....Get out believers.
If you suffer shame for what you believe then you are blessed. If you are hated for what you believe, the world hated Christ first. If He is hated then shake off the dust of rejection and move on.
God doesn't need you and me to defend Him
Re: Why is this called a " Christian DEbate site"
Post #17AdHoc wrote:Tex wrote:AdHoc wrote:Tex wrote:
It seems all people do here is attack God.
It should be called an "atheist" debate site. It's most probably to get Christians to come into the lions den.
I wonder what the breakdown is? Does anyone know? It does seem like Christians are in the minority but that's probably a good thing.
Why would they say much??? Without DNA from God we can't say anything.
The evidence that has been around for thousand of years is never good enough.
No DNA.....No good.....Get out believers.
I get what you're saying and it doesn't feel like a christian site to me either but I appreciate it for what its worth... a microcosm of the world.
If you suffer shame for what you believe then you are blessed. If you are hated for what you believe, the world hated Christ first. If He is hated then shake off the dust of rejection and move on.
God doesn't need you and me to defend Him
If God didn't want me to speak up for him.....He should have made me an atheist.
I totally agree, that God doesn't need me for nothing. But I am who I am. Or should I say.... what God made me to be.
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Re: Why is this called a " Christian DEbate site"
Post #18Like I asked earlier: What did you expect from this site? What would you like to see here that isn't here? How would you change it? I ask sincerely and in good faith; this might help us all understand your complaints.Tex wrote: If God didn't want me to speak up for him.....He should have made me an atheist.
I totally agree, that God doesn't need me for nothing. But I am who I am. Or should I say.... what God made me to be.
Re: Why is this called a " Christian DEbate site"
Post #19I get what he's saying, and Tex can correct me if I'm wrong.cnorman18 wrote:Like I asked earlier: What did you expect from this site? What would you like to see here that isn't here? How would you change it? I ask sincerely and in good faith; this might help us all understand your complaints.Tex wrote: If God didn't want me to speak up for him.....He should have made me an atheist.
I totally agree, that God doesn't need me for nothing. But I am who I am. Or should I say.... what God made me to be.
To Tex and I we love God with our whole hearts, minds and lives and to constantly read (from some people) awful things being said about the person we love is painful. I know an atheist might say, "It's an imaginary person!" But to us that is not true. He is the person who picked us up, dusted us off and set our feet on the solid rock.
The more I think about it the more I agree with what Tex is saying. Since this is a christian respectful debate site why is God allowed to be disrespected? I saw a dead person's name being defended and it was made clear that he was to be treated with respect. How much more a living God? I'm not begging the question if Otseng agrees that what I say is true.
I'm not saying people couldn't still vigorously debate His actions or lack thereof but just don't speak disrespectfully about Him. If for no other reason out of respect for believers. It may encourage more christians to stay in the forum which will in turn supply more entertainment for the lions
My two tokens.
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Re: Why is this called a " Christian DEbate site"
Post #20Can you give some specific examples of God being "disrespected"?AdHoc wrote:I get what he's saying, and Tex can correct me if I'm wrong.cnorman18 wrote:Like I asked earlier: What did you expect from this site? What would you like to see here that isn't here? How would you change it? I ask sincerely and in good faith; this might help us all understand your complaints.Tex wrote: If God didn't want me to speak up for him.....He should have made me an atheist.
I totally agree, that God doesn't need me for nothing. But I am who I am. Or should I say.... what God made me to be.
To Tex and I we love God with our whole hearts, minds and lives and to constantly read (from some people) awful things being said about the person we love is painful. I know an atheist might say, "It's an imaginary person!" But to us that is not true. He is the person who picked us up, dusted us off and set our feet on the solid rock.
The more I think about it the more I agree with what Tex is saying. Since this is a christian respectful debate site why is God allowed to be disrespected? I saw a dead person's name being defended and it was made clear that he was to be treated with respect. How much more a living God? I'm not begging the question if Otseng agrees that what I say is true.
I'm not saying people couldn't still vigorously debate His actions or lack thereof but just don't speak disrespectfully about Him. If for no other reason out of respect for believers. It may encourage more christians to stay in the forum which will in turn supply more entertainment for the lions
My two tokens.
If you consider doubting whether God even exists, or even asserting that He does NOT exist, "disrespect," then you are asking something that is not reasonable for a site where nonbelievers are welcome. Many of the debates here are about God's existence or nonexistence; demanding that God be respected as a "living God" is absolutely begging the question. You don't begin a debate by assuming that one side is correct.
If you regard asking why God allows horrible things to happen and remarking that one is not willing to worship a God Who would as "disrespectful," that also is too much to ask. Theodicy is one of the chief subjects for debate here, and it is a legitimate one.
I'd still like to hear from Tex on this, but as long as you've rung in, let's see some specific examples of "disrespect" to God and see if they stand up to examination.
Bear in mind that I DO believe in God.


