Did God Create Sin?

[ViperaRex]

Okay, Christians will usually say, "no, God did not create sin, it was Adam & Eve/ the Serpent, who created sin. They say; "God created the conditions through which sin might be born, but he himself did not create sin". This argument might make sense if God couldn't see the future, but according to the bible, he can, rendering this argument absolutely ridiculous, let me give you an analogy:

I Am a scientist,one day I become bored, I decide to create an experiment for my amusement, however, I know that conducting this particular experiment will release a toxic gas that will spread and kill everything within a 5 mile radius, This isn't the main point of the experiment, but it is a byproduct I know will occur. I strap on a gas mask, shrug, and do it anyway. Sure enough, the gas is released, and thousands of of people die. Surely I would be blamed for it, as I knew it would happen but did it anyway, would you defend me and say; "Hey, he didn't create the gas, he simply created the conditions in which that gas might be created, but he didn't make it". Of course you wouldn't, that makes no sense.

God didn't say, "Let there be sin", but he created it by creating the right conditions and allowing it to happen.

And thus, how can he be angry at us for sinning, when it is not really our fault that we sin, if he had not created the conditions for sin, it would not exist.

So, my question is, did God create sin?, if you believe "no", please justify it in light of all this

[southern cross]

[Replying to post 3 by ViperaRex]

A sin is not a mistake. You cut 6 feet instead of 8 feet that's a mistake.

You make something perfect and it turns out not to be perfect is not a sin.
It's a mistake.

Did God make a mistake?

The word that is translated from the Greek as sin, comes from a word which literally means to fall short of the mark, particularly in archery. Sin includes every time you do not achieve all that you could have done; every time that the outcome is exceeded by the expectation. God sinned in creating humans if we don't live up to His expectations.

Huh? Adam and Eve had no responsibility?

Please produce the passages that show god teaching A&E responsibility
Where he taught them about obedience and disobedience
Where he taught them about right and wrong
Where he taught them about good and evil.

Gen 2:16 And the Lord God commanded the man, You are free to eat from any tree in the garden; 17 but you must not eat from the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, for when you eat from it you will certainly die.

Do you understand the word teach? Even explain would suffice. But you have failed thus far to answer even one of my queries. Want to try again?

[East of Eden]

[Replying to post 3 by ViperaRex]

A sin is not a mistake. You cut 6 feet instead of 8 feet that's a mistake.

You make something perfect and it turns out not to be perfect is not a sin.
It's a mistake.

Did God make a mistake?

The word that is translated from the Greek as sin, comes from a word which literally means to fall short of the mark, particularly in archery. Sin includes every time you do not achieve all that you could have done; every time that the outcome is exceeded by the expectation. God sinned in creating humans if we don't live up to His expectations.

Huh? Adam and Eve had no responsibility?

Please produce the passages that show god teaching A&E responsibility
Where he taught them about obedience and disobedience
Where he taught them about right and wrong
Where he taught them about good and evil.

Gen 2:16 And the Lord God commanded the man, You are free to eat from any tree in the garden; 17 but you must not eat from the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, for when you eat from it you will certainly die.

Do you understand the word teach? Even explain would suffice. But you have failed thus far to answer even one of my queries. Want to try again?

Sorry, I can't fix your apparent comprehension problem.

[southern cross]

[Replying to post 3 by ViperaRex]

A sin is not a mistake. You cut 6 feet instead of 8 feet that's a mistake.

You make something perfect and it turns out not to be perfect is not a sin.
It's a mistake.

Did God make a mistake?

The word that is translated from the Greek as sin, comes from a word which literally means to fall short of the mark, particularly in archery. Sin includes every time you do not achieve all that you could have done; every time that the outcome is exceeded by the expectation. God sinned in creating humans if we don't live up to His expectations.

Huh? Adam and Eve had no responsibility?

Please produce the passages that show god teaching A&E responsibility
Where he taught them about obedience and disobedience
Where he taught them about right and wrong
Where he taught them about good and evil.

Gen 2:16 And the Lord God commanded the man, You are free to eat from any tree in the garden; 17 but you must not eat from the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, for when you eat from it you will certainly die.

Do you understand the word teach? Even explain would suffice. But you have failed thus far to answer even one of my queries. Want to try again?

Sorry, I can't fix your apparent comprehension problem.

Well all you had to say was
No
Instead you have to beat around the bush, OK.

[East of Eden]

[Replying to post 3 by ViperaRex]

A sin is not a mistake. You cut 6 feet instead of 8 feet that's a mistake.

You make something perfect and it turns out not to be perfect is not a sin.
It's a mistake.

Did God make a mistake?

The word that is translated from the Greek as sin, comes from a word which literally means to fall short of the mark, particularly in archery. Sin includes every time you do not achieve all that you could have done; every time that the outcome is exceeded by the expectation. God sinned in creating humans if we don't live up to His expectations.

Huh? Adam and Eve had no responsibility?

Please produce the passages that show god teaching A&E responsibility
Where he taught them about obedience and disobedience
Where he taught them about right and wrong
Where he taught them about good and evil.

Gen 2:16 And the Lord God commanded the man, You are free to eat from any tree in the garden; 17 but you must not eat from the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, for when you eat from it you will certainly die.

Do you understand the word teach? Even explain would suffice. But you have failed thus far to answer even one of my queries. Want to try again?

Sorry, I can't fix your apparent comprehension problem.

Well all you had to say was
No
Instead you have to beat around the bush, OK.

If I answered your absurd question that way it would be a lie.

[southern cross]

[Replying to post 3 by ViperaRex]

A sin is not a mistake. You cut 6 feet instead of 8 feet that's a mistake.

You make something perfect and it turns out not to be perfect is not a sin.
It's a mistake.

Did God make a mistake?

The word that is translated from the Greek as sin, comes from a word which literally means to fall short of the mark, particularly in archery. Sin includes every time you do not achieve all that you could have done; every time that the outcome is exceeded by the expectation. God sinned in creating humans if we don't live up to His expectations.

Huh? Adam and Eve had no responsibility?

Please produce the passages that show god teaching A&E responsibility
Where he taught them about obedience and disobedience
Where he taught them about right and wrong
Where he taught them about good and evil.

Gen 2:16 And the Lord God commanded the man, You are free to eat from any tree in the garden; 17 but you must not eat from the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, for when you eat from it you will certainly die.

Do you understand the word teach? Even explain would suffice. But you have failed thus far to answer even one of my queries. Want to try again?

Sorry, I can't fix your apparent comprehension problem.

Well all you had to say was
No
Instead you have to beat around the bush, OK.

If I answered your absurd question that way it would be a lie.

Oh now I get it.
You think that command=teach.
I mean wow, you really don't understand and thats why you posted an irrelevant scripture in answer to my request.
Well now that you know that they are not in any way synonimous perhaps you would like to address my queries?

Please produce the passages that show god teaching A&E responsibility
Where he taught them about obedience and disobedience
Where he taught them about right and wrong
Where he taught them about good and evil.

[East of Eden]

[Replying to post 3 by ViperaRex]

A sin is not a mistake. You cut 6 feet instead of 8 feet that's a mistake.

You make something perfect and it turns out not to be perfect is not a sin.
It's a mistake.

Did God make a mistake?

The word that is translated from the Greek as sin, comes from a word which literally means to fall short of the mark, particularly in archery. Sin includes every time you do not achieve all that you could have done; every time that the outcome is exceeded by the expectation. God sinned in creating humans if we don't live up to His expectations.

Huh? Adam and Eve had no responsibility?

Please produce the passages that show god teaching A&E responsibility
Where he taught them about obedience and disobedience
Where he taught them about right and wrong
Where he taught them about good and evil.

Gen 2:16 And the Lord God commanded the man, You are free to eat from any tree in the garden; 17 but you must not eat from the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, for when you eat from it you will certainly die.

Do you understand the word teach? Even explain would suffice. But you have failed thus far to answer even one of my queries. Want to try again?

Sorry, I can't fix your apparent comprehension problem.

Well all you had to say was
No
Instead you have to beat around the bush, OK.

If I answered your absurd question that way it would be a lie.

Oh now I get it.
You think that command=teach.
I mean wow, you really don't understand and thats why you posted an irrelevant scripture in answer to my request.
Well now that you know that they are not in any way synonimous perhaps you would like to address my queries?

Please produce the passages that show god teaching A&E responsibility
Where he taught them about obedience and disobedience
Where he taught them about right and wrong
Where he taught them about good and evil.

If you have a point to your word games let us know. As my passage said, God clearly told them to obey His laws on the tree, and the consequences that would follow. Satan used the same lie he uses today, saying, "Did God really say........?"

[southern cross]

Did God make a mistake?

The word that is translated from the Greek as sin, comes from a word which literally means to fall short of the mark, particularly in archery. Sin includes every time you do not achieve all that you could have done; every time that the outcome is exceeded by the expectation. God sinned in creating humans if we don't live up to His expectations.

Huh? Adam and Eve had no responsibility?

Please produce the passages that show god teaching A&E responsibility
Where he taught them about obedience and disobedience
Where he taught them about right and wrong
Where he taught them about good and evil.

Gen 2:16 And the Lord God commanded the man, You are free to eat from any tree in the garden; 17 but you must not eat from the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, for when you eat from it you will certainly die.

Do you understand the word teach? Even explain would suffice. But you have failed thus far to answer even one of my queries. Want to try again?

Sorry, I can't fix your apparent comprehension problem.

Well all you had to say was
No
Instead you have to beat around the bush, OK.

If I answered your absurd question that way it would be a lie.

Oh now I get it.
You think that command=teach.
I mean wow, you really don't understand and thats why you posted an irrelevant scripture in answer to my request.
Well now that you know that they are not in any way synonimous perhaps you would like to address my queries?

Please produce the passages that show god teaching A&E responsibility
Where he taught them about obedience and disobedience
Where he taught them about right and wrong
Where he taught them about good and evil.

If you have a point to your word games let us know. As my passage said, God clearly told them to obey His laws on the tree, and the consequences that would follow. Satan used the same lie he uses today, saying, "Did God really say........?"

Now you see you cannot get away with lies, when what you say is recorded as it is here, LOOK.

Huh? Adam and Eve had no responsibility?

And my response:

Please produce the passages that show god teaching A&E responsibility
Where he taught them about obedience and disobedience
Where he taught them about right and wrong
Where he taught them about good and evil.

The rest of your posts are just so much backpedaling, because you have no response. It matters NOT what this god COMMANDED them, it matters how he educated them with the knowledge of obedience and disobedience, in order that they could obey his command. Woops, not very smart as a PARENT, was he.
Tell me how you KNOW the difference between obedience and disobedience.

[East of Eden]

Huh? Adam and Eve had no responsibility?

Please produce the passages that show god teaching A&E responsibility
Where he taught them about obedience and disobedience
Where he taught them about right and wrong
Where he taught them about good and evil.

Gen 2:16 And the Lord God commanded the man, You are free to eat from any tree in the garden; 17 but you must not eat from the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, for when you eat from it you will certainly die.

Do you understand the word teach? Even explain would suffice. But you have failed thus far to answer even one of my queries. Want to try again?

Sorry, I can't fix your apparent comprehension problem.

Well all you had to say was
No
Instead you have to beat around the bush, OK.

If I answered your absurd question that way it would be a lie.

Oh now I get it.
You think that command=teach.
I mean wow, you really don't understand and thats why you posted an irrelevant scripture in answer to my request.
Well now that you know that they are not in any way synonimous perhaps you would like to address my queries?

Please produce the passages that show god teaching A&E responsibility
Where he taught them about obedience and disobedience
Where he taught them about right and wrong
Where he taught them about good and evil.

If you have a point to your word games let us know. As my passage said, God clearly told them to obey His laws on the tree, and the consequences that would follow. Satan used the same lie he uses today, saying, "Did God really say........?"

Now you see you cannot get away with lies, when what you say is recorded as it is here, LOOK.

Huh? Adam and Eve had no responsibility?

And my response:

Please produce the passages that show god teaching A&E responsibility
Where he taught them about obedience and disobedience
Where he taught them about right and wrong
Where he taught them about good and evil.

The rest of your posts are just so much backpedaling, because you have no response.

It isn't easy to respond to your incoherent post. Still waiting for some kind of point rather than games.

It matters NOT what this god COMMANDED them, it matters how he educated them with the knowledge of obedience and disobedience, in order that they could obey his command. Woops, not very smart as a PARENT, was he.
Tell me how you KNOW the difference between obedience and disobedience.

Uh, if you did something God said not too, can you understand that is what we call disobedience?

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Now you see you cannot get away with lies, when what you say is recorded as it is here, LOOK.

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[southern cross]

Please produce the passages that show god teaching A&E responsibility
Where he taught them about obedience and disobedience
Where he taught them about right and wrong
Where he taught them about good and evil.

Gen 2:16 And the Lord God commanded the man, You are free to eat from any tree in the garden; 17 but you must not eat from the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, for when you eat from it you will certainly die.

Do you understand the word teach? Even explain would suffice. But you have failed thus far to answer even one of my queries. Want to try again?

Sorry, I can't fix your apparent comprehension problem.

Well all you had to say was
No
Instead you have to beat around the bush, OK.

If I answered your absurd question that way it would be a lie.

Oh now I get it.
You think that command=teach.
I mean wow, you really don't understand and thats why you posted an irrelevant scripture in answer to my request.
Well now that you know that they are not in any way synonimous perhaps you would like to address my queries?

Please produce the passages that show god teaching A&E responsibility
Where he taught them about obedience and disobedience
Where he taught them about right and wrong
Where he taught them about good and evil.

If you have a point to your word games let us know. As my passage said, God clearly told them to obey His laws on the tree, and the consequences that would follow. Satan used the same lie he uses today, saying, "Did God really say........?"

Now you see you cannot get away with lies, when what you say is recorded as it is here, LOOK.

Huh? Adam and Eve had no responsibility?

And my response:

Please produce the passages that show god teaching A&E responsibility
Where he taught them about obedience and disobedience
Where he taught them about right and wrong
Where he taught them about good and evil.

The rest of your posts are just so much backpedaling, because you have no response.

It isn't easy to respond to your incoherent post. Still waiting for some kind of point rather than games.

It matters NOT what this god COMMANDED them, it matters how he educated them with the knowledge of obedience and disobedience, in order that they could obey his command. Woops, not very smart as a PARENT, was he.
Tell me how you KNOW the difference between obedience and disobedience.

Uh, if you did something God said not too, can you understand that is what we call disobedience?

What we call it is what we have learned it to be. A&E were never instructed in right and wrong so could not have disobeyed. Would a 2yr old call it disobedience, even though the 2yr old has infinitely more instruction in the concept than A&E had?