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The title/subtitle says it all. This scenario must have occurred many, many times. We've all heard, read or seen instances of this and the types of responses that parents of their gay children have given. While we only seem to have a handful of vocal anti-gay Christians on this forum, I'm genuinely curious as to how they would react if their son or daughter came to them and told them that they're gay. Others, feel free to offer your input.

The question again: How would you (a Christian) respond to your son or your daughter coming out to you that they are gay? Without revealing any more than you need to, has this actually happened to any of you ...either as a gay son/daughter or as a parent?

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Dokimas wrote: [Replying to KCKID]

I would acknowledge their feelings but tell them not to act upon the feelings as we should not act on other feelings that may lead to sin. The urge to lie, the urge to commit adultery, the urge to steal are real feelings but if acted upon results in going against God's will.
Even tho' I can't personally empathize with homosexual 'feelings' it seems cruel and unfair to deny to them a long term committed, loving relationship with similar intimacies that others' enjoy. If God made me, then He must also have made them. It seems to me that if there were a God, He would be at least as fair minded and compassionate as I am, and presumably much more so.
The Christianity I was raised with taught that I shouldn't judge; that I should strive to be fair and compassionate. Even tho' I no longer believe in the existence of that God, I don't see any reason not to attempt to maintain some of those positive values the religion taught.

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Dokimas wrote: [Replying to KCKID]

I would acknowledge their feelings but tell them not to act upon the feelings as we should not act on other feelings that may lead to sin. The urge to lie, the urge to commit adultery, the urge to steal are real feelings but if acted upon results in going against God's will.
So you would tell them to disobey Jesus and NOT love?

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Joab wrote:
Dokimas wrote: [Replying to KCKID]

I would acknowledge their feelings but tell them not to act upon the feelings as we should not act on other feelings that may lead to sin. The urge to lie, the urge to commit adultery, the urge to steal are real feelings but if acted upon results in going against God's will.
So you would tell them to disobey Jesus and NOT love?
It is possible to love someone of the same sex and not want to have sex with the south end of their digestive tract....come to think of it the north end as well. :)
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Danmark wrote:
Dokimas wrote: [Replying to KCKID]

I would acknowledge their feelings but tell them not to act upon the feelings as we should not act on other feelings that may lead to sin. The urge to lie, the urge to commit adultery, the urge to steal are real feelings but if acted upon results in going against God's will.
Even tho' I can't personally empathize with homosexual 'feelings' it seems cruel and unfair to deny to them a long term committed, loving relationship with similar intimacies that others' enjoy. If God made me, then He must also have made them. It seems to me that if there were a God, He would be at least as fair minded and compassionate as I am, and presumably much more so.
The Christianity I was raised with taught that I shouldn't judge; that I should strive to be fair and compassionate. Even tho' I no longer believe in the existence of that God, I don't see any reason not to attempt to maintain some of those positive values the religion taught.
I find it some what strange for someone who doesn't believe in God to even care about morality. So what do you base your views of right and wrong on?
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Sir Hamilton wrote:
Joab wrote:
Dokimas wrote: [Replying to KCKID]

I would acknowledge their feelings but tell them not to act upon the feelings as we should not act on other feelings that may lead to sin. The urge to lie, the urge to commit adultery, the urge to steal are real feelings but if acted upon results in going against God's will.
So you would tell them to disobey Jesus and NOT love?
It is possible to love someone of the same sex and not want to have sex with the south end of their digestive tract....come to think of it the north end as well. :)
So now you will need to define what you THINK homosexuality is. Cos by the looks of that post you have no idea.

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Joab wrote:
Sir Hamilton wrote:
Joab wrote:
Dokimas wrote: [Replying to KCKID]

I would acknowledge their feelings but tell them not to act upon the feelings as we should not act on other feelings that may lead to sin. The urge to lie, the urge to commit adultery, the urge to steal are real feelings but if acted upon results in going against God's will.
So you would tell them to disobey Jesus and NOT love?
It is possible to love someone of the same sex and not want to have sex with the south end of their digestive tract....come to think of it the north end as well. :)
So now you will need to define what you THINK homosexuality is. Cos by the looks of that post you have no idea.
Oh...are you not aware that they do unclean things like that? You must be extremely nave or you are just being deliberately ignorant.
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Dokimas wrote: [Replying to KCKID]

I would acknowledge their feelings but tell them not to act upon the feelings as we should not act on other feelings that may lead to sin. The urge to lie, the urge to commit adultery, the urge to steal are real feelings but if acted upon results in going against God's will.
But ...isn't it God's will that a girl marry her rapist? that disobedient children and Sabbath-abrogators and adulterers be stoned to death? etc.? etc.? What - precisely - IS "god's will?" No one really appears to know what 'God's will' is other than 'God's will' is what "I personally" determine it to be. You really do need to articulate concisely and succinctly, devoid of all of this vagueness, WHAT 'God's will' actually IS so that we have something to work with.

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Sir Hamilton wrote:
Joab wrote:
Sir Hamilton wrote:
Joab wrote:
Dokimas wrote: [Replying to KCKID]

I would acknowledge their feelings but tell them not to act upon the feelings as we should not act on other feelings that may lead to sin. The urge to lie, the urge to commit adultery, the urge to steal are real feelings but if acted upon results in going against God's will.
So you would tell them to disobey Jesus and NOT love?
It is possible to love someone of the same sex and not want to have sex with the south end of their digestive tract....come to think of it the north end as well. :)
So now you will need to define what you THINK homosexuality is. Cos by the looks of that post you have no idea.
Oh...are you not aware that they do unclean things like that? You must be extremely nave or you are just being deliberately ignorant.
So you don't know what homosexuality is? You've just read things on toilet walls? OK.

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Sir Hamilton wrote:
Joab wrote:
Dokimas wrote: [Replying to KCKID]

I would acknowledge their feelings but tell them not to act upon the feelings as we should not act on other feelings that may lead to sin. The urge to lie, the urge to commit adultery, the urge to steal are real feelings but if acted upon results in going against God's will.
So you would tell them to disobey Jesus and NOT love?
It is possible to love someone of the same sex and not want to have sex with the south end of their digestive tract....come to think of it the north end as well. :)
While I'm sure that the love shared between any couple that choose a life-time together - gay or straight - involves much more than sex it COULD be argued that 'normal sex' as allegedly designed by 'the Creator' is, while pleasurable, rather 'yecchh' when one thinks about it. That said, what you say above would be the acts that are practiced with more frequency by the majority group of heterosexuals than by the minority group of homosexuals. If you apply your crude remark to heterosexuals that do the very same thing does that make them 'guilty of sin'? If so, what do you intend to do about it ...impose a ban on heterosexual 'north and south' sex acts? Or, does the ban only exist for homosexuals?

You DO realize that your argument - such as it is - is rather nonsensical, don't you?

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Sir Hamilton wrote:
I find it some what strange for someone who doesn't believe in God to even care about morality. So what do you base your views of right and wrong on?
Empathy and enlightened self interest. Also, morality is a socially and culturally informed construct.
“What do you think science is? There is nothing magical about science. It is simply a systematic way for carefully and thoroughly observing nature and using consistent logic to evaluate results. So which part of that exactly do you disagree with? Do you disagree with being thorough? Using careful observation? Being systematic? Or using consistent logic?�

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