Where is god?

[connermt]

People say one only has to look to find god.
Some have looked and found god.
Other have looked and found nothing.
To find out why this is, we have to eliminate the variables.
Are we looking for the same god? Since god is intangible, we have to assume YES.
Therefore, god is not the variable.
Who are the ones looking for god?
The individuals.
At this point, it appears the variables are the individuals (rather it's the methods used, or the individuals, we can't say for sure) and we have to work with what we know.
This makes perfect sense, as each person is an individual. This is why ten believers in the same god can see the same issue seven different ways (or 10 different ways or even 1 way). Again, this makes sense if you look at the state of the religion:
different rules, same god
different belief, same god
different denomination, same god
different people, same god.

So, it seems, that 'god' lives in the mind of the individual. No one can prove god is 'real' and can be found here: [insert location here]. The only existing god one can pinpoint is their god that lives in their lives, or, in their mind.

So is it fair to say 'god is in the mind of the believer'? If not, can you point to where I can find god - where god physically is?
If god IS in the mind of the believer, can one truly expect another to abide by it?

[rikuoamero]

[Replying to post 39 by rikuoamero]

Yes, that would be true unless that One chose to communicate with humans, which I believe He has done through the written word of the bible.


JW

Again, how is one supposed to verify that the God you believe exists in an inaccessible dimension spoke to humans? How is this to be done?

Imagine for one moment that I held up a book, pointed to it and said "This book is a communication from Xablarg, who lives on Neptune". Imagine you want to verify the truth or falsehood of this claim.
Well...how do you verify my claim? We currently cannot go to Neptune. How do I know that the book is from Xablarg on Neptune, if I've never gone myself?
Tell me how you (JW) can verify that the book I am holding is from Xablarg on Neptune, and then I can grant that there is at least a plausible way for you too to have a book from an entity in a 'place' that we humans cannot access.

[JehovahsWitness]

[Replying to post 39 by rikuoamero]

Yes, that would be true unless that One chose to communicate with humans, which I believe He has done through the written word of the bible.


JW

Again, how is one supposed to verify that the God you believe exists in an inaccessible dimension spoke to humans? How is this to be done?.

Well obviously if someone is communicating with you it's proof they exist. So as well as using the physical evicence around us to conclude that there is a creator, by means of the bible and personal experience, God makes his presence and intensions abundantly clear to those that sincerly want contact; He has done for me and I feel confident I am not the only one since there are nearly 9 million Jehovah's Witnesses.

JW



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People say one only has to look to find god.
Some have looked and found god.
Other have looked and found nothing.
To find out why this is, we have to eliminate the variables.
Are we looking for the same god? Since god is intangible, we have to assume YES.
Therefore, god is not the variable.
Who are the ones looking for god?
The individuals.
At this point, it appears the variables are the individuals (rather it's the methods used, or the individuals, we can't say for sure) and we have to work with what we know.
This makes perfect sense, as each person is an individual. This is why ten believers in the same god can see the same issue seven different ways (or 10 different ways or even 1 way). Again, this makes sense if you look at the state of the religion:
different rules, same god
different belief, same god
different denomination, same god
different people, same god.

So, it seems, that 'god' lives in the mind of the individual. No one can prove god is 'real' and can be found here: [insert location here]. The only existing god one can pinpoint is their god that lives in their lives, or, in their mind.

So is it fair to say 'god is in the mind of the believer'? If not, can you point to where I can find god - where god physically is?
If god IS in the mind of the believer, can one truly expect another to abide by it?

Can you try something? For a research.

Go to a church, catholic church. In the middle there is a Tabernacle. Us, catholics, we believe there is truly present Jesus.

You go there and look in the Tabernacle and say a silent prayer, do it in your mind, pray, contemplate this little prayer; Jesus, someone told me You are really here, I don't know You and I don't know if I believe, please help me understand. Amen.

Do this and search for Him. Talk to Him. He is really there. Maybe you start going to Sunday mass. I hope you do.

[rikuoamero]

[Replying to post 42 by JehovahsWitness]

So you're not going to try to verify that my book is from Xablarg on Neptune?

I feel confident I am not the only one since there are nearly 9 million Jehovah's Witnesses.

Argument from popularity fallacy. There are about 2 billion Muslims. Why do you not believe in the Quran, if your confidence is based on how many people there are?

The video you link makes the claim that there are no transitional fossils, when in fact there are. Every single life form is a transitional fossil (or at least it will be, once it dies). The biochemist says that forms and structures remained the same, which is not true.
In fact, if you want an example of how clueless creationists are when it comes to transitional fossils, find me any two, or three or four or five creationists. Show them a transitional fossil and there will be disagreements between the creationists as to what that fossil represents, what species.

Lastly, again, even if what the biochemist says is true (evolution is bunk, to sum him up) this would do NOTHING to validate creationism or Christianity. The video you posted is basically a false dichotomy.

[rikuoamero]

[Replying to post 43 by rosary]

Go to a church, catholic church. In the middle there is a Tabernacle. Us, catholics, we believe there is truly present Jesus.

You go there and look in the Tabernacle and say a silent prayer, do it in your mind, pray, contemplate this little prayer; Jesus, someone told me You are really here, I don't know You and I don't know if I believe, please help me understand. Amen.

Do this and search for Him. Talk to Him. He is really there. Maybe you start going to Sunday mass. I hope you do.

I notice that here you didn't say anything at all would happen if one were to go to a catholic church and do what you say.
Your advice is as sound as me saying "Go to the corner of your room and talk to Santa". Notice that I didn't say anything about Santa responding to you.
Also, your 'advice' ignores the vast swathes of people, such as yours truly, who were once Roman Catholic and yet didn't have any divine experiences at all.

[Willum]

[Replying to JehovahsWitness]

That's fantastic, God used to be on Mt Sinai. God used to be in the clouds. God used to be in space.

Now with the improper use of the world dimension(s) you think he is hiding from us there.

So here is the thing about other dimensions, they exist because they have or ARE a metric.
Length width height, time.

Dimensions pockets are where energy is or changes.

So where is the God dimension? You've imagined it, you've used it as a theory, you should be able to explain it.

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So if you pray to God and he answers - you should be able to tell me something about him from how he hears you and responds.

Hearing is a physical thing. Does he hear brainwaves? Your voice? Each of those tell us something about God. If brainwaves, he needs to be able to detect energies of cells. If words, he needs to be sensitive to vibration. This gives us an idea where he is as well.

So... tell me.

[endtimer]

[Replying to post 1 by connermt]

It's the way God created us, it's in our DNA to question this. Because He wanted it that way. If we seek we shall find.

If you study scripture you will find that the Almighty GOD is Omnipresent and Omnipotent. yet a invisible force that come through your house.
When you find God in you then you will start seeing Him everywhere , even in pictures with you

[Willum]

[Replying to post 47 by endtimer]

God wasn't Omni anything until after 60AD. Before that he was just a pagan-like god. How do you riddle that?

[JoeyKnothead]

From Post 42:

Well obviously if someone is communicating with you it's proof they exist.

Sure. But, there's the issue of schizophrenia. As a sufferer of auditories all my life, in the past year or so I've started seeing people and stuff that just ain't there.

So, we should use caution when considering if folks actually heard, or saw stuff that strains credulity.

So as well as using the physical evicence around us to conclude that there is a creator, by means of the bible and personal experience, God makes his presence and intensions abundantly clear to those that sincerly want contact

More Christian libel against those who sought and failed to find.




Is your religious belief, your god, so weak that you must engage in slander and libel to try to sale your wares?




Alas, when one promotes the virtues of a book so full of libel and slander against those who reject such tales, we shouldn't be shocked at all to find that promoter engaging in the same malicious, foul, and malodorous fashion. They can't help it, they're "on a mission from God", not a mission to respect differences.

Y'all don't get onto JehovahsWitness too bad about his attempt to assassinate the character of others - it's a product of the very "virtues" his religious text has instilled in him. He can't help it. It's all he knows.

He has done for me and I feel confident I am not the only one since there are nearly 9 million Jehovah's Witnesses.

There were millions of Nazis, were they correct in seeking the annihilation of the Jewish people (among others)?

Argumentum ad populum.

[endtimer]

[Replying to post 48 by Willum]

God wrote His commandments with His own hands in the rock & handed it to Moses to instruct Israel how to live obeying all His statues. Gods power is far above supreme He does all the supernatural things that Satan cannot do. God instantaneously created bodies for Himself Michael & Gabriel & walked on earth in those bodies to meet His son Abraham. He performed that various times & met Abe with bread & wine & blessed him & Jacob that He wrestled.
God expressed His supremacy through Samson & slew many Philistines. His powers opened the donkeys jawbone & brought forth waters of Life. Samson drank water from a donkeys jawbone & was energized with more future excitement to slay Gods enemies. A humble farmer was chosen to build an ark to save Gods loved ones & God drowned the world & saved His own. Now that is supremacy to wash the whole earth over water. Look at the creation the planets & universe a mastermind created all these things there is no power that can even come near Him.

There is no time in God's world, so why rush if there is only one way to separate good and bad, in such a way that it will eventually become clear to us. Imagine you had unlimited time on your hands...and you create something amazing, it breaks, you build it again, and eventually you get that build to perfection through learning...what other documents can we learn from that talks about God...see His details is there for his builds