Doctrine of God

B Bob · Post by **B Bob** » Mon Sep 12, 2016 12:58 pm

Is God only an invisible Spirit or is He also flesh (human)?

2timothy316 · Post by **2timothy316** » Mon Sep 12, 2016 4:02 pm

B Bob wrote: [Replying to post 12 by 2timothy316]

This post has no scriptural support. Please support your views with scripture and I will continue to do the same

I don't need scriptural support to explain what an 'image' is, just a dictionary. You and I differ on the definition of the word 'image'.

B Bob · Post by **B Bob** » Mon Sep 12, 2016 4:09 pm

[Replying to post 31 by 2timothy316]

The word image is of no concern here. Likeness is, it means to be like God, we must be LIKE God. Since we are both spirit and flesh, we are like God because He is both Spirit and flesh; Jesus Christ

2timothy316 · Post by **2timothy316** » Mon Sep 12, 2016 4:49 pm

B Bob wrote: [Replying to post 31 by 2timothy316]

The word image is of no concern here. Likeness is, it means to be like God, we must be LIKE God. Since we are both spirit and flesh, we are like God because He is both Spirit and flesh; Jesus Christ

I don't find that you have the right to dismiss the word image from the Bible. I don't throw out the word image as it is of great concern to me and explains the truth that the Word of God is trying to get across. We are an image and yes we are like but we are not copies or duplicates of God. No more than a reflection of me in a mirror or even a full-size statue likeness of me in meatballs. See how I better get my point across using both words?

A copy, duplicate or replica these are words to describe twins, a reproduction of a piece of art or a clone. I do not read 'likeness' and 'image' as these. Especially since I can't turn myself invisible or walk through walls on demand.

At any rate, this is the way I see it. Good day.

B Bob · Post by **B Bob** » Mon Sep 12, 2016 5:11 pm

[Replying to post 33 by 2timothy316]

Again, You are arguing your belief on everything except the scriptures. Also, I am not deleting the word image, I am only stating the obvious. God must also be spirt and flesh because we are spirt and flesh (see Gen 1:26-27. The word "image" doesn't change Gen 1:26-27 into something other than we must be made like God in His image and according to His likeness. No analogy can take place of the the scriptures and no analogy can argue against the scriptures. Scriptures must interpret scriptures. I believe you shouls know this - see 2 Tim 3:16.

Now, I have argue my views strictly by what the word of God says. I am open to other views if they can support them with scripture. Anything else is just empty noise in the air.

2timothy316 · Post by **2timothy316** » Mon Sep 12, 2016 5:12 pm

B Bob wrote: [Replying to post 33 by 2timothy316]

Again, You are arguing your belief on everything except the scriptures.

No, your telling me your interpretation of likeness and I am rejecting it. There's a difference. You want me to accept your interpretation and what you claim as 'statements of the obvious' as truth or 'scripture' and that is not possible. I also believe it isn't that every scripture must be interpreted. You want God to be both spirit and flesh and are trying to find scripture to support it. This is called eisegesis. This involves 1) imagination: what idea do I want to present? 2) exploration: what Scripture passage seems to fit with my idea? and 3) application: what does my idea mean?

http://www.gotquestions.org/exegesis-eisegesis.html
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It is a widely known as flawed way to read the Bible.

B Bob · Post by **B Bob** » Mon Sep 12, 2016 5:24 pm

[Replying to post 34 by B Bob]

See 2 Peter 2:3. Peter is reminding the people of God to believe what God said because His word is so powerful it brought the universe into existence. By His word the earth was formed by water, and by His word, the earth was destroyed by water, and by his word, the current heavens abd earth are reserved for destruction.

What is Peter saying? BELIEVE GOD'S WORD!!! IT IS ALWAYS TRUE!!!

Peter explains those that mock the word of God in unbelief in what He says do so, because it escapes their notice what God said. "Escapes your notice" in the Greek is understood as "Forget intentionally, by disregarding information. Therefore, what Peter is saying is, the unbeliever disregards what the word of God says.

Please don't disregard what God said in Gen 1:26-27. It is true and reasoning it away is the same as "escaping your notice", which means "intentionally forgetting by disregarding the information God has provide".

2timothy316 · Post by **2timothy316** » Mon Sep 12, 2016 5:28 pm

B Bob wrote: [Replying to post 34 by B Bob]

See 2 Peter 2:3. Peter is reminding the people of God to believe what God said because His word is so powerful it brought the universe into existence. By His word the earth was formed by water, and by His word, the earth was destroyed by water, and by his word, the current heavens abd earth are reserved for destruction.

What is Peter saying? BELIEVE GOD'S WORD!!! IT IS ALWAYS TRUE!!!

Peter explains those that mock the word of God in unbelief in what He says do so, because it escapes their notice what God said. "Escapes your notice" in the Greek is understood as "Forget intentionally, by disregarding information. Therefore, what Peter is saying is, the unbeliever disregards what the word of God says.

Please don't disregard what God said in Gen 1:26-27. It is true and reasoning it away is the same as "escaping your notice", which means "intentionally forgetting by disregarding the information God has provide".

Don't disregard John 4:24. "God is a spirit". That's it. Don't add to it or try to find some hidden meaning. Not every scripture has some hidden meaning, most don't.

B Bob · Post by **B Bob** » Mon Sep 12, 2016 5:28 pm

[Replying to post 35 by 2timothy316]

Again, you provide no scriptures to support your argument. I believe in the word of God and would consider anything someone would present with the support of it.

It is futile and useless to argue outside of the scriptures. Otherwise, we should believe whatever we want to believe.

B Bob · Post by **B Bob** » Mon Sep 12, 2016 5:30 pm

[Replying to post 37 by 2timothy316]

I agree God is Spirit. however, He is also flesh.

Look, The word of God is true. THAT'S IT. whether one believes it or not, doesn't matter. His word is true and that settles it. I believe it!!!

2timothy316 · Post by **2timothy316** » Mon Sep 12, 2016 5:31 pm

B Bob wrote: [Replying to post 35 by 2timothy316]

Again, you provide no scriptures to support your argument. I believe in the word of God and would consider anything someone would present with the support of it.

It is futile and useless to argue outside of the scriptures. Otherwise, we should believe whatever we want to believe.

You're using eisegesis to interpret the Bible. This is known by most as a flawed way to read the Bible.