Therefore, what consensus is there for any evidence for a soul(s)? As the existence of the soul is very central to any belief or religion.
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Post #1It is fact that the Physical Brain controls memories, personality. Thousands of other actions are all controlled by our nervous system, which is managed by our brains.
Therefore, what consensus is there for any evidence for a soul(s)? As the existence of the soul is very central to any belief or religion.
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Therefore, what consensus is there for any evidence for a soul(s)? As the existence of the soul is very central to any belief or religion.
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Yes, I thought that's what you were saying. Most people believe this, it's called life after death and is based on a part of humans surviving death. Nothing new about this, the ancient greeks believed essentially the same thing. The churches have simply adopted this as their own and teach it as the "immortality of the soul".hoghead1 wrote:we all exist after death. [...] We undergo a major transformation.
Same teaching, fancier sandals.
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"For if we live, we live to Jehovah, and if we die, we die to Jehovah. So both if we live and if we die, we belong to Jehovah" - Romans 14:8
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"For if we live, we live to Jehovah, and if we die, we die to Jehovah. So both if we live and if we die, we belong to Jehovah" - Romans 14:8
Post #163
[Replying to post 162 by JehovahsWitness]
True, belief in an afterlife is worldwide and then found in all the major religions. That's what impresses me about its validity. it is worldwide, represents a basic human need. The system that generates the need always satisfies it.
True, belief in an afterlife is worldwide and then found in all the major religions. That's what impresses me about its validity. it is worldwide, represents a basic human need. The system that generates the need always satisfies it.
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Post #164
[Replying to post 163 by hoghead1]
Except for the ancient Jews and Jehovah's Witnesses because it is not a bible teaching. The bible is unique in that it teaches that we don't have an invisible part of us that survives death, that the soul is the whole physical person that ceases to exist at death.
But that that person can be resurrected (re-created) to live again if that be God's will.
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Except for the ancient Jews and Jehovah's Witnesses because it is not a bible teaching. The bible is unique in that it teaches that we don't have an invisible part of us that survives death, that the soul is the whole physical person that ceases to exist at death.
But that that person can be resurrected (re-created) to live again if that be God's will.
JW
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http://debatingchristianity.com/forum/v ... 81#p826681
"For if we live, we live to Jehovah, and if we die, we die to Jehovah. So both if we live and if we die, we belong to Jehovah" - Romans 14:8
http://debatingchristianity.com/forum/v ... 81#p826681
"For if we live, we live to Jehovah, and if we die, we die to Jehovah. So both if we live and if we die, we belong to Jehovah" - Romans 14:8
Post #165
Jews were not given the knowledge of life after death because they were not ready for it but we do have a story of Saul being 'brought up' and was spoken to.JehovahsWitness wrote: [Replying to post 163 by hoghead1]
Except for the ancient Jews and Jehovah's Witnesses because it is not a bible teaching. The bible is unique in that it teaches that we don't have an invisible part of us that survives death, that the soul is the whole physical person that ceases to exist at death.
But that that person can be resurrected (re-created) to live again if that be God's will.
JW
JWs choose not to believe and it is their prerogative.
We Christians believe it because it is Jesus' teaching.
Post #166
[Replying to post 164 by JehovahsWitness]
That may be true of the JDubs, but it is not true of the ancient Jews. In the older parts of teh Bible, everyone, the wicked and the righteous, and all animals go to Sheol. It was neither a heaven nor a hell. it was a very bleak place, full of weak, trembling shades, as we read in Job 36:5. So ,even in the early days, the Jews believed in survival beyond the grave, though it certainly was not a fun place. Later, the belief system changed and focused on a richer hereafter, as we find in Dan. 12:2 and Isa. 26. By the time of Christ, it was widely believed that the righteous go to a place of comfort, as the wicked to eternal torment.
So, you are free to believe as you want, but you also have a responsibility of accurately representing the Bible. Having a secret committee of "translators" deliberately change the wording of Scripture as was done with the NRT, so that it squares with your anti-trinitarian and anti-hell approach is not a responsible or respectable thing.
That may be true of the JDubs, but it is not true of the ancient Jews. In the older parts of teh Bible, everyone, the wicked and the righteous, and all animals go to Sheol. It was neither a heaven nor a hell. it was a very bleak place, full of weak, trembling shades, as we read in Job 36:5. So ,even in the early days, the Jews believed in survival beyond the grave, though it certainly was not a fun place. Later, the belief system changed and focused on a richer hereafter, as we find in Dan. 12:2 and Isa. 26. By the time of Christ, it was widely believed that the righteous go to a place of comfort, as the wicked to eternal torment.
So, you are free to believe as you want, but you also have a responsibility of accurately representing the Bible. Having a secret committee of "translators" deliberately change the wording of Scripture as was done with the NRT, so that it squares with your anti-trinitarian and anti-hell approach is not a responsible or respectable thing.
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Post #167
Belief in the afterlife is universal because it is impossible to comprehend an end to brain activity using brain activity. It's like trying to read Braille with warty fingers.hoghead1 wrote: True, belief in an afterlife is worldwide and then found in all the major religions. That's what impresses me about its validity. it is worldwide, represents a basic human need. The system that generates the need always satisfies it.
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Post #168
[Replying to post 165 by Monta]
I might add that you should read about Saul and the witch of Endor. Trembling shade or no, Samuel obviously lives on in Sheol, lookingl ike an old man with a cloak, and scolds Saul for disturbing him. So your assumption that the Jews don't believe in a afterlife is again seriously challenged. Granted, Sheol is not a fun place, but that does not deny the fact the ancient Israelites believed we all somehow live on, in there.
I might add that you should read about Saul and the witch of Endor. Trembling shade or no, Samuel obviously lives on in Sheol, lookingl ike an old man with a cloak, and scolds Saul for disturbing him. So your assumption that the Jews don't believe in a afterlife is again seriously challenged. Granted, Sheol is not a fun place, but that does not deny the fact the ancient Israelites believed we all somehow live on, in there.
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It's widespread because it represents a human need, the need for meaningfulness, which can be achieved only via endurance, everlastingness.
It's widespread because it represents a human need, the need for meaningfulness, which can be achieved only via endurance, everlastingness.
