What is a soul?

[Skrill]

It is fact that the Physical Brain controls memories, personality. Thousands of other actions are all controlled by our nervous system, which is managed by our brains.

Therefore, what consensus is there for any evidence for a soul(s)? As the existence of the soul is very central to any belief or religion.

(my first post )

[Checkpoint]

[Replying to post 221 by onewithhim]

Where does a person exist physically beyond the grave? Well, you better ask Paul and also Christ that question. They simply said in Paradise or Heaven or Hell (Lk. 16) and they didn't tell me where that was.

What they said, always, is that beyond the grave only takes place through resurrection, not without it.

Resurrection is to face judgment and experience its results.

Hebrews 9:27

Inasmuch as it is appointed for men to die once, and after this, judgment

John 5:

28 Do not marvel at this; for an hour is coming, in which all who are in the tombs will hear His voice,
29 and will come forth; those who did the good deeds to a resurrection of life, those who committed the evil deeds to a resurrection of judgment.

[hoghead1]

[Replying to JehovahsWitness]

I don't quite follow you here. Are you asking me what happened to our "earthly" bodies? The answer is that they have perished, vanished into the past. Hence, we move on to a new body, according to Paul. If you are asking what does God do with the past, that is a very good question, but probably the subject of another thread.

[hoghead1]

[Replying to post 231 by Checkpoint]

OK, but that is not the issue I was addressing. The question I was addressing was, "Where is the hereafter?

[Checkpoint]

[Replying to post 231 by Checkpoint]

OK, but that is not the issue I was addressing. The question I was addressing was, "Where is the hereafter?

With respect, I suggest what matters about the hereafter is not where it is, its physical location, whether of saved or lost.

What matters is what it will be, and who is or is not in that experience.

We will either be with God and His people, or without God and without life.

[hoghead1]

[Replying to Checkpoint]

Where it is does in fact matter, however. If you think of it as something wholly outside the universe, that one thing. If you think of it as within the universe, within its depths, that is a wholly different matter. I am inclined to think of teh latter, as I believe there is one order of reality, not two. The hereafter is where we all enter into a different relationship with the universe, not where we put it all aside. God works from within in out, not from without in. To find God is to go deeper into the universe, not seek to banish it.

[JehovahsWitness]

I don't quite follow you here. Are you asking me what happened to our "earthly" bodies? The answer is that they have perished, vanished into the past.

My understanding is that you believe that the soul is the whole person and that as such the soul is wholly physical BUT that that physical soul ALSO survives (lives) beyond the grave.

Correct me if I'm wrong but that would mean that the person doesn't perish at death. If his body perishes and there is no duality of something none physical being part of the person then the person perishes, vanishes and ceases to exist with the destruction of his physical body.

Please clarify,

JW

[hoghead1]

[Replying to JehovahsWitness]

Oh, OK. Now I see where you are coming from. The idea I have in mind, which I see as supported by Scripture, is that we continue on in another kind of body. There needn't be anything strange or bizarre about such an idea. it is perfectly natural. For example, in our earthly existence, we are continually living on through perishing occasions of our bodies. I no longer have the body I had when I was ten years old. It would be arbitrary to stop this process at the grave.

[JehovahsWitness]

[Replying to JehovahsWitness]

Oh, OK. Now I see where you are coming from. The idea I have in mind, which I see as supported by Scripture, is that we continue on in another kind of body. There needn't be anything strange or bizarre about such an idea. it is perfectly natural. For example, in our earthly existence, we are continually living on through perishing occasions of our bodies. I no longer have the body I had when I was ten years old. It would be arbitrary to stop this process at the grave.

Ok, so what exactly do you mean by the soul lives beyond the grave? I was under the impression you were trying to say that at death a soul (a person) continues have a consciouse existance as a person even though dead. ie they survive or live on despite being dead.

Even though the cells that make up our physical bodies are constantly changing, growing or dying, the WHOLE PERSON never stops existing while we are alive. Is there a moment when the person (the soul) ceases to exist?

[JLB32168]

Nowhere does the Bible say that the soul exists eternally or separates from the body!

If one’s body can be lost while the soul is saved, which Christ said, then it would seem that the two can indeed be separated.

[Monta]

[Replying to post 231 by Checkpoint]

OK, but that is not the issue I was addressing. The question I was addressing was, "Where is the hereafter?

Hereater is a state of happiness in heaven or happiness in hell.

Things that appear only seem to be in space.
Space would be limiting.
Love conjoins and a person thought of appears instanttly;
this is similarily affected here in our natural world, thinking of a loved one
they will appears in our mind instantly and you can feel their closeness.