What is a soul?

Skrill · Post by **Skrill** » Sun Sep 07, 2014 9:54 pm

It is fact that the Physical Brain controls memories, personality. Thousands of other actions are all controlled by our nervous system, which is managed by our brains.

Therefore, what consensus is there for any evidence for a soul(s)? As the existence of the soul is very central to any belief or religion.

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Blastcat · Post by **Blastcat** » Sat Oct 15, 2016 12:11 pm

[Replying to post 269 by Talishi]

Talishi wrote:
hoghead1 wrote: [Replying to post 267 by Talishi]Interesting. But what exactly do you mean by real time? Face to face? Part of the problem in these discussion groups is that everyone is largely anonymous, all net nyms, etc.
What I mean is a chat situation, where everyone is posting live. I remember the dynamic of having "enemies" on Usenet (similar to this forum format) chatting live, and you feel like you have to deal with them in a much different way, with much more respect.

Count me in.
I'd love to be a part of that kind of thing.

Regularly.
I'm pretty sure that people who have antagonism towards me would finally get my actual intentions. People ( I count myself as a person ) sometimes have trouble with the written word. Subtle body language cues get lost. We are not all brilliant writers.

hoghead1 · Post by **hoghead1** » Sat Oct 15, 2016 3:28 pm

[Replying to post 271 by JehovahsWitness]

I thought I already explained about our existence being intermittent, in another post. Just in case I didn't, yes, you could say that we are in a constant state of death and rebirth. There the the self at time one, the perishing or death of that self, the birth of a new self at time two, and so on, moment to moment. You might think of ourselves as like teh frames of film in a camera. Each self is a frame, and between the frames is a gap, ne that goes y so fast we don't notice it. That gap represents the perishing of the old self and the period of reformulation of teh new self. Sleep might be a good analogy. When you go to sleep, the conscious self perishes, only to be born again when you wake. WE are all like electrons, which disappear and then reappear.

onewithhim · Post by **onewithhim** » Sat Oct 15, 2016 3:57 pm

Checkpoint wrote:
hoghead1 wrote: [Replying to post 260 by Checkpoint]
Making rude remarks such as "Haha" don't belong in a serious theological discussion. You should be more respectful. She does in fact have a perfectly valid case based on Matthew 27: 50 on. If you 9iwsh to provide some alternative, you are free to do so, which you have yet to do.
I thought she made an interesting observation, and just wanted to acknowledge that with my playful word.

How easily one can be misunderstod when not face to face.

I intended no disrespect or rudeness, I think Talishi is a thinker who has written very good posts.

Therefore I have deleted that remark.

Sadly, she is a poster who doesn't wish to even tolerate what I say in my posts and put me on "ignore" before I ever did that to anybody. I asked her valid questions and then asked why she didn't answer them. Then she snapped, "I click a certain button and solve both our problems."

She's not much of a thinker if she can do something like that. I now have her on "ignore." It's too bad it had to come to that.

hoghead1 · Post by **hoghead1** » Sat Oct 15, 2016 4:15 pm

[Replying to post 274 by onewithhim]

OK, but I can't help you with any of this. It is all between you and her.

JehovahsWitness · Post by **JehovahsWitness** » Sat Oct 15, 2016 5:48 pm

hoghead1 wrote: I thought I already explained about our existence being intermittent, in another post. Just in case I didn't, yes, you could say that we are in a constant state of death and rebirth.

But obviously you don't believe that your baby that is now a young man actually died and is not living (surviving) beyond the grave. So how does this "constant state of death and rebirth" differ from the event that would necessitate that one begins to "live beyond the grave" to do? (biblically the event you claim continues with one "living beyone the grave" is called "death")

JW

hoghead1 · Post by **hoghead1** » Sat Oct 15, 2016 6:13 pm

[Replying to post 276 by JehovahsWitness]

I am simply saying that we naturally go through a death and rebirth moment to moment. It would be arbitrary to stop this at the grave. So the biblical claim for life in the hereafter makes great sense to me.

JehovahsWitness · Post by **JehovahsWitness** » Sun Oct 16, 2016 2:48 am

hoghead1 wrote: [Replying to post 276 by JehovahsWitness]

I am simply saying that we naturally go through a death and rebirth moment to moment. It would be arbitrary to stop this at the grave. So the biblical claim for life in the hereafter makes great sense to me.

It might make sense to you but I am failing to see the relevance to the question of what happens to a person when they are DEAD.

When you say that there is life "beyond the grave" what do you mean? What bibilcially is a "dead soul"? You've already explained the soul to be the whole person, I am just asking for you to explain what the difference would be between a person that is alive (and dying intermittently as you suggest) and one that is completely dead and how "surviving" or "living" beyond the grave fits in to the picture.

All the conjuncture about us constantly slipping in and out of existence just because we change or the cells of our body constantly renew themselves seems irrelevant to me, becaue the whole person doesn't die. But if it is relevant, feel free to explain it preferably with the expression "when a person dies..." and "in this way they are living beyond the grave" in there somewhere.

What I am gleaning is that you do not believe that the individual ever ceases to exist even when dead, I am wrong?

JW

onewithhim · Post by **onewithhim** » Sun Oct 16, 2016 10:00 am

I'd like to see him explain that.

Blastcat · Post by **Blastcat** » Sun Oct 16, 2016 12:00 pm

[Replying to post 274 by onewithhim]

[center]Yeah, let's not ignore one another.. right?[/center]

onewithhim wrote:
Sadly, she is a poster who doesn't wish to even tolerate what I say in my posts and put me on "ignore" before I ever did that to anybody.

Yeah, it's really too bad when people come to debate, and then ignore the people who desire to debate. I wonder what it is about what I write that is so intolerable to those who have ignored me?

hoghead1 · Post by **hoghead1** » Sun Oct 16, 2016 6:44 pm

[Replying to post 277 by JehovahsWitness]

What I mean is simply what the Bible has to say on the subject: We live on beyond the grave. It's that simple. Unfortunately, the Bible doesn't give much detail on what life in the hereafter will be like for us. Paul sys we'll have a superdooper body. Other passages speak of some sort of terrible torment for others. Either way, the Bible makes it clear the grave is not the end for us.