Does God change his mind?

[OnceConvinced]

A Christian member of our forum recently pointed out a bible contradiction for all to see:

This verse was presented first:
Numbers 23:19 "God is not human, that he should lie, not a human being, that he should change his mind."

The Christian then attempted to trump it with a contradictory scripture where God DOES change his mind, thus exposing a blatant bible contradiction:

Jeremiah 18:8 "But if that nation about which I spoke turns from its evil way, I'll change my mind about the disaster that I had planned for it."

Here are further verses that show God changing his mind:

Exodus 32:14
So the LORD changed His mind about the harm which He said He would do to His people.

Amos 7:3
The LORD changed His mind about this. "It shall not be," said the LORD.

Jeremiah 18:10
if it does evil in My sight by not obeying My voice, then I will think better of the good with which I had promised to bless it. (wow this is a verse where God says he will break his promise!!)


So questions for debate:

Does Got change his mind?
If he does change his mind, how do we know he hasn't changed his mind about much of what he expected from us in the New Testament?
If he does change his mind, how can we really know what he wants of us today?

[Blastcat]

[Replying to post 210 by Monta]



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Let's choose our words very wisely[/center]

"GOD gave us nothing. We are GOD experiencing human form on this planet."


It is important to choose words wisely especially when making claims like this.

I think we are all allowed to interpret the Bible the way we deem best.
But I agree with your admonishment...



It's important to choose our words wisely when we are discussing philosophical issues.

[William]

[Replying to post 202 by William]

"GOD gave us nothing. We are GOD experiencing human form on this planet."


It is important to choose words wisely especially when making claims like this.

It is important to read what is posted in context.

[Monta]

[Replying to William]


"It is important to read what is posted in context."

I agree to some extent, but you made a statement.
In what you said there is no room for sidetracking -
'God gave us nothing; we are God experiencing...'

We all know the term 'God' is used for the Creator of the universe.
Yes, we might be connected, all sorts of things but, are we Gods?
Some people believe it to be so. If yu do then yu should defend it.

I am not preaching. We all should take care the words we use.

[JehovahsWitness]

[Replying to William]


"It is important to read what is posted in context."

I agree to some extent, but you made a statement.
In what you said there is no room for sidetracking -
'God gave us nothing; we are God experiencing...'

We all know the term 'God' is used for the Creator of the universe.
Yes, we might be connected, all sorts of things but, are we Gods?
Some people believe it to be so. If yu do then yu should defend it.

I am not preaching. We all should take care the words we use.

Rather than God giving us nothing, the bible says God gave us EVERYTHING, including the life we have and the world around us. We owe it all to our Creator.

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Evidence: "“You are worthy, our Lord and God, to receive glory and honor and power, for you created all things, and by your will they were created and have their being." Revelation 4:11�

Someone has to say it, someone has to give God glory for all his wonderful works, would you not agree?

JEHOVAHS WITNESS

[William]

[Replying to post 213 by Monta]

[Replying to William]


"It is important to read what is posted in context."

I agree to some extent, but you made a statement.
In what you said there is no room for sidetracking -
'God gave us nothing; we are God experiencing...'

What I said was "GOD gave us nothing. We are GOD experiencing human form on this planet." and that, in context, not only with the whole of my post, but also with what I have been expressing throughout all of my posts, as an individual member on this message board.

We all know the term 'God' is used for the Creator of the universe.

Sure we do. Some of us understand the term more expansively as well, and this needn't be ignored in order to take something out of context.

Yes, we might be connected, all sorts of things but, are we Gods?

Yes we are, and even the bible says as much, and even Jesus is quoted as having said as much.
We can follow doctrines and dogma which veer away from this concept by separating GOD from the rest of creation, but that in itself is no goo reason for straying out of context.

Some people believe it to be so. If you do then you should defend it.

Well first off, I am defending it by asking anyone who does so, to not quote me out of context. If I am unable to convince them not to do this, then there is nothing else I need to defend.

I am not preaching. We all should take care the words we use.

The implication from you in this is that my words are careless. Therefore you need to be able to verify this is the case without stooping to quoting me out of context, and even by you getting to know what I am saying about GOD through examining the content of all my posts...or at least enough of them to get the gist.

In relation to my thoughts regarding The Dangers of Separating Human Consciousness From Any Idea of GOD I have written this: {LINK}

Anything else you might be interested in relation to my views on the subject of GOD can be read in my thread in the Members Notes section of this message board. {LINK}

[OnceConvinced]

Rather than God giving us nothing, the bible says God gave us EVERYTHING, including the life we have and the world around us. We owe it all to our Creator.

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Evidence: "“You are worthy, our Lord and God, to receive glory and honor and power, for you created all things, and by your will they were created and have their being." Revelation 4:11�

Someone has to say it, someone has to give God glory for all his wonderful works, would you not agree?

JEHOVAHS WITNESS

Sure, Let's also give God glory for all this too:




We owe all this to our creator too. Do these things make him worthy of glory?

[dio9]

Rather than God giving us nothing, the bible says God gave us EVERYTHING, including the life we have and the world around us. We owe it all to our Creator.

• 

Evidence: "“You are worthy, our Lord and God, to receive glory and honor and power, for you created all things, and by your will they were created and have their being." Revelation 4:11�

Someone has to say it, someone has to give God glory for all his wonderful works, would you not agree?

JEHOVAHS WITNESS

Sure, Let's also give God glory for all this too:




We owe all this to our creator too. Do these things make him worthy of glory?

life in the biosphere is one great Holocaust where life consumes life. That's the way it is. Think of all the cows chickens lambs pork and fish you consume to keep going.

[dio9]

God's mind is the same , doesn't think for his benefit or situation, just is the origination of love, the only thing that changes is our bag of angst, more or less.

[Blastcat]

[Replying to post 218 by dio9]

God's mind is the same , doesn't think for his benefit or situation, just is the origination of love, the only thing that changes is our bag of angst, more or less.

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[hoghead1]

[Replying to post 216 by OnceConvinced]

I don't see God as a cosmic tyrant or dictator, in complete and total monopolistic control of the universe. All creatures have some real degree of freedom. Consequently, they all have freedom to follow God's aims or no. Evil occurs when these aims are not fully actualized by us creatures.