Is Nature against males having long hair?

[McCulloch]

Does not even nature itself teach you that if a man has long hair, it is a dishonor to him, but if a woman has long hair, it is a glory to her? For her hair is given to her for a covering.

What did Paul mean by this? In what way does nature teach this?

[Justin108]

Paul suggests long hair is a bad thing. Why would Nazarites do a bad thing in order to express their dedication to God? That would be like nuns dressing up like prostitutes to express their dedication to God.

Set apart by doing something Paul considers to be dishonorable. Again, this is like nuns "setting themselves apart" by dressing like prostitutes as dressing like prostitutes is something one would also consider dishonorable.

It does not say that it is "bad" and the world is not divided into the poisoned knowledge of good and bad.

The long hair on a man is a sign or guilt (or shame) while short hair on a woman is their sign of guilt. 1 Corinthians 11:14-15

So Samson's long hair is a shame?

It does not say that the hair is bad or good but just a sign of our sins.

If one stops living in sin then the problem goes away.

So if everyone stopped living in sin... men's hair will stop growing?

[JP Cusick]

So Samson's long hair is a shame?

Samson was given to kill people and to fight wars and he was a brute.

See Judges 15:16

Samson had guilt, and the hair is just a display.

So if everyone stopped living in sin... men's hair will stop growing?

No one ever really stops sins, as it is a constant struggle.

The hair grows back just as the sins keep coming back.

So just as cutting the hair and shaving our face we must continually resist the sins of this world.

[Justin108]

So if everyone stopped living in sin... men's hair will stop growing?

No one ever really stops sins, as it is a constant struggle.

You're not answering my question. IF (hypothetically) everyone stopped living in sin, would men's hair stop growing?

[JP Cusick]

You're not answering my question. IF (hypothetically) everyone stopped living in sin, would men's hair stop growing?

I said this in a previous post #16 = "The hair was also the point of Adam and Eve after they sinned then they got covered in hair, Genesis 3:21, and some people interpret this to mean that Adam and Eve were not physical until this happened and they were given physical bodies."

And based on that then (hypothetically) if everyone did stop living in sin, then men's hair would NOT stop growing.

There has to be a much bigger change in the human nature, and whether it might happen or not - the Bible says that humans will be resurrected with a new body and a new heart so THEN sin will be dead and humanity will transform into a new adventure as the risen children of God.

See 1 Corinthians 15:52-53

That is the message of the Gospel for the future.

[Justin108]

Samson was given to kill people and to fight wars and he was a brute.

See Judges 15:16

Samson had guilt, and the hair is just a display.

Yet when Samson dared cut his hair, God punished him by stripping him of his strength... suggesting God wanted Samson to have long hair.

[JP Cusick]

Yet when Samson dared cut his hair, God punished him by stripping him of his strength... suggesting God wanted Samson to have long hair.

I seem to remember that it was his girl friend Jezebel who cut his hair, but it does not matter who cut it, because yes God wanted Samson to wear the long hair as the mark of shame and guilt.

Samson was to be a Nazarite which was a fore-symbol of Jesus as a Nazarene. Judges 13:5

And the hair is more than just a symbol, because Samson was a warrior and a killer, and his hair represented the shame and guilt of his own sins.

As to the Nazarite and Jesus as the Nazarene then to Jesus is said to have carried the shame and the guilt of humanity onto the cross, and Jesus demonstrated how to be a martyr, and that it is a great privilege and honor to carry the sins of others when we do not deserve their punishments.

I really did not learn all of this myself, as about 20 years ago I had a friend who was obsessed about hair in the Bible - and he pointed out the message to me about the guilt, and later I expanded on what he showed to me. Just saying = that this is a radical message which I am passing onward.

[Justin108]

Samson was to be a Nazarite which was a fore-symbol of Jesus as a Nazarene. Judges 13:5

Jesus was not a Nazarene.

[JP Cusick]

Samson was to be a Nazarite which was a fore-symbol of Jesus as a Nazarene. Judges 13:5

Jesus was not a Nazarene.

Jesus was called a Nazarene because He was the fulfillment of the law.

After Jesus' death the followers were called the sect of the Nazarenes, Acts 24:5

The ritual of the Nazarite, Numbers 6, was a foreshadowing of the coming Messiah (the lamb of God verse 12) so Jesus was the Nazarene and Jesus did not need to take the vow of a Nazarite.

Samsom was a Nazarite with the long hair, but the followers of Jesus had their sins forgiven so Paul told them for Men to cut their hair short and woman to wear hair long. See 1 Corinthians 11:14-15

With some effort then eventually everything in the Bible adds up together.

[Justin108]

Samson was to be a Nazarite which was a fore-symbol of Jesus as a Nazarene. Judges 13:5

Jesus was not a Nazarene.

Jesus was called a Nazarene

No he wasn't

[psychoslice]

Does not even nature itself teach you that if a man has long hair, it is a dishonor to him, but if a woman has long hair, it is a glory to her? For her hair is given to her for a covering.

What did Paul mean by this? In what way does nature teach this?

I wouldn't be concerned about it at all, there are more important things in life to be concerned with than hair, be it long, short, or bald.