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What Fraction of Humanity is Getting into Heaven?

A quarter or less
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25%
Roughly Half
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13%
Three quarters or more
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25%
Cannot say/guess one way or the other
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38%
 
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What Fraction of People Will Make it to Heaven?

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I've read in the bible that many will not enter the gates of Heaven. I was wondering what others think about this statistically speaking. So that's what this poll is for. If you have some verses or ideas backing up your opinion, feel free to give them.

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onewithhim wrote:
Monta wrote:
jgh7 wrote: I've read in the bible that many will not enter the gates of Heaven. I was wondering what others think about this statistically speaking. So that's what this poll is for. If you have some verses or ideas backing up your opinion, feel free to give them.
There's too much evil coming from Christian world as too many support wars and enslaving other people.
Muslims seem to suffer the most.
I would not guess as to numbers from either religions but currently there would be more Muslims than Chrisans entering heaven.
They're not going anywhere but right here on the earth. Didn't you read any of the thread "Paradise on Earth"? It's absurd to think that untold billions of humans will end up in heaven in the spirit realm, when God's original purpose was to give humans this planet and assign him to take care of it---forever. Heaven is not the hope of most of mankind! There are only relatively FEW who will go to heaven to serve mankind and guide them in renovating the earth.

Muslims in heaven? Each with their 70 virgins? Come on. Anyway, only Christians are acceptable to God and Christ, according to the Bible. And most of those who claim to be Christian on this earth are sorry examples of anyone following Christ.
This is what the Lake of Fire is all about. God's fire is spiritual and will purge out all the bad religion and sin and death. In the end: All flesH will see the salvation of God. Notice the word "all"

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Re: What Fraction of People Will Make it to Heaven?

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Monta wrote: [Replying to post 157 by onewithhim]


"Muslims in heaven? Each with their 70 virgins? Come on. Anyway, only Christians are acceptable to God and Christ, according to the Bible. And most of those who claim to be Christian on this earth are sorry examples of anyone following Christ."

Totally disagre with you.
I thought yu are JW?
Jesus Christ, the first and the last, the beginning and the end.
Why do you disagree with me? Would you mind explaining just what you mean?

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Re: What Fraction of People Will Make it to Heaven?

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onewithhim wrote:
Muslims in heaven? Each with their 70 virgins? Come on. Anyway, only Christians are acceptable to God and Christ, according to the Bible. And most of those who claim to be Christian on this earth are sorry examples of anyone following Christ.
QUESTION: Where in the Bible does it say that only Christians "are acceptable to God and Christ"?

No Jews in heaven??? Did Abraham and Moses get kicked out?
Abraham and Moses never went to heaven. Jesus said that NO ONE had gone to heaven right up to the time he was on the earth. (John 3:13)

The whole Bible points to the Messiah, and Jesus Christ claimed to be him. People must accept this Messiah to be acceptable to God. (John 3:16)

There are now and will be more Jews in heaven. They all will be believers in Jesus as the Messiah.

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Re: Haven't you heard? Heaven's now full. No more room!

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polonius.advice wrote: The evolution of the JW teaching on the 144,000 in heaven. And what happened to fill it up in 1881?

http://www.letusreason.org/JW52.htm

The teaching on the 144,000 the way they (Jehovah Witnesses) believe today did not come from their founder C.T. Russell."

Russell taught all the members of the Watchtower were anointed,' and the 144,000 who were Spiritual Israel having the heavenly hope. The early Watchtower teaching was that all Jehovahs Witnesses go to heaven. There was no paradise earth teaching, no two destinations for their members. Russell actually taught that the calling of the 144,000 was completed in 1881

Everyone who became a Jehovahs Witnesses before 1934 would go to Heaven (until Rutherford changed it). God stopped calling people to only a heavenly calling from that year. So he invented two classes, a heavenly class and earthly class. The great crowd class introduced by Judge Rutherford out of necessity."

"An earthly Great Crowd was created, a second- class of people that were subject to and dependent upon the heavenly class who alone would be part of the new covenant."

"So list 144,000 as the numerator, and X as the denominator until we know exactly how many people will exist. When we can, we can enter the total number of people created and we'll have what fraction of people will make it to heaven."

Amen!!!
What refuse. Brother Russell was just picking up the tails of where the Christian church left off after being inundated with apostate wolves that twisted the Scriptures and grew and grew (Acts 20:29,30) until the wolves turned the church into the RCC. But there were always true believers in the world, just not organized. The Bible says that the truth would be known again in "the Last Days," or "the harvest time." (Daniel 12:4,9; Matthew 13:30,40) The Last Days started in 1914, according to Bible chronology, which we've discussed quite a bit on these threads. Brother Russell started studying the Bible in depth around 1870 and formed a group of other people who wanted to figure out which church was the right one. Brother Russell was new to the truth and had many erroneous ideas in those earliest years, such as that he himself was the "faithful and wise servant" of Matthew 24:45, and that the physical nation of Israel was still God's special people. He had not yet understood the importance of not mixing in with the world concerning pagan holidays or even warfare. He was just starting out in his understanding of the Bible.

The Scriptures gradually became clear to the Bible Students. They fully understood the "great multitude" in the early 1930s, especially after a lot of people started to think that they didn't want to go to heaven, but to stay on the earth. It was perceived that the 144,000 had been chosen or nearly so, and now the ones with the earthly hope would be a new focus of attention. There are now over 8 million people on the earth today that have no interest in going to heaven, and only around 18,000 that claim to be bound for heaven.

Paradise Earth will be a reality....the fulfillment of God's original plan for humans. AMEN!!!

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Re: What Fraction of People Will Make it to Heaven?

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Benoni wrote:
onewithhim wrote:
Monta wrote:
jgh7 wrote: I've read in the bible that many will not enter the gates of Heaven. I was wondering what others think about this statistically speaking. So that's what this poll is for. If you have some verses or ideas backing up your opinion, feel free to give them.
There's too much evil coming from Christian world as too many support wars and enslaving other people.
Muslims seem to suffer the most.
I would not guess as to numbers from either religions but currently there would be more Muslims than Chrisans entering heaven.
They're not going anywhere but right here on the earth. Didn't you read any of the thread "Paradise on Earth"? It's absurd to think that untold billions of humans will end up in heaven in the spirit realm, when God's original purpose was to give humans this planet and assign him to take care of it---forever. Heaven is not the hope of most of mankind! There are only relatively FEW who will go to heaven to serve mankind and guide them in renovating the earth.

Muslims in heaven? Each with their 70 virgins? Come on. Anyway, only Christians are acceptable to God and Christ, according to the Bible. And most of those who claim to be Christian on this earth are sorry examples of anyone following Christ.
This is what the Lake of Fire is all about. God's fire is spiritual and will purge out all the bad religion and sin and death. In the end: All flesH will see the salvation of God. Notice the word "all"
Well, Benoni, please explain, then, scriptures such as these:

"Yet a little while and the wicked man will be no more; and you will look carefully for his place and he will not be there....His sword will enter his own heart, and his bow will be broken." (Psalm 37:10,15, NASB)

"The wicked will perish and the enemies of the LORD will be like the flowers of the pastures, they vanish---like smoke they vanish away." (Psalml 37:20)


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Re: What Fraction of People Will Make it to Heaven?

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Well, Benoni, please explain, then, scriptures such as these:

"Yet a little while and the wicked man will be no more; and you will look carefully for his place and he will not be there....His sword will enter his own heart, and his bow will be broken." (Psalm 37:10,15, NASB)

"The wicked will perish and the enemies of the LORD will be like the flowers of the pastures, they vanish---like smoke they vanish away." (Psalml 37:20)


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Yes the wicked will be no more because God's fire will burn up all the wickedness.
"Behold, I will send my messenger, and he shall prepare the way before me; and the Lord whom ye seek, shall SUDDENLY COME TO HIS TEMPLE, even the messenger of the covenant, whom ye delight in: behold, he shall come, saith the Lord of hosts. But who may abide the day of his coming? and who shall stand when he appeareth? for HE IS LIKE A REFINER'S FIRE, and like fuller's soap: and he shall sit as a refiner and purifier of silver: and he shall PURIFY THE SONS OF LEVI, and purge them as gold and silver, that they may offer unto the Lord an offering in righteousness" (Mal. 3:1-3).
Our blessed Lord and Christ is like a refiner's fire and like fuller's soap. Fire and soap. The Lord Jesus Christ is like fire! The Lord Jesus Christ is like soap. What can this strange, cryptic language mean? You know what fire and soap will do. Fire will purify.
More than three centuries ago when the Black Plague swept through London, England, more than 68,000 men, women, and children were sickened with the putrid fever, suffered nameless agonies, passed into delirium, sometimes with convulsions, and then died. Before the end of the terrible nightmare of anguish and death, what was thought to be an even greater tragedy occurred. The city caught fire, the whole heavens were ablaze as the Great Fire destroyed more than 13,200 homes and 89 churches. Most of the city, which was built largely of wood, lay in ashes. Wonder of wonders! As soon as the last dying embers cooled and the smoke cleared, the inhabitants of the city discovered that the Plague had been stayed! Not another person died of the epidemic. The Plague never returned. The fire had killed the bacteria-carrying fleas and rats that caused the Plague. It took a fire to do it! Fire is a great cleanser, purifier, and changer, the finest purifier.
It is interesting to note that the Greek word for fire is PUR, a derivative of which is the Latin word PYRA (pure) and the English word PYRE - the place for the burning of a corpse. PYREX also comes from the same root, PYR or PUR, meaning a fire, and REX, meaning a king - that which is king, thus ruling over the fire, hence a "heatresistant" glassware. All our English words having to do with that which is pure are related to the Greek word PUR, indicating clearly that that which is pure is so because it has been cleansed BY FIRE! Consider: PURE, PURity, PURify, PURification, PURitan.
And, of course, soap is also a purifier, a cleanser. The Bible mentions several times the profession of the fuller and fuller's soap. The trade of the fuller consisted chiefly in cleansing garments and whitening. The process of fulling or cleansing clothes consisted in treading or stamping on the garments with the feet or with paddles in vats of water in which a strong alkali soap had been dissolved. So when the prophet says that the Lord comes like fire and like soap he is telling us in language that we can understand that He is the great cleanser; He is the great purifier. The two figures, fire and soap, are used because fire purifies inwardly, and soap purifies outwardly (garments and flesh). The Lord Jesus Christ is like fire and soap, He not only does a purifying job on the outside, but He also does a far grander and more thorough purifying work on the inside.

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Re: What Fraction of People Will Make it to Heaven?

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Benoni wrote:
ONEWITHHIM SAID: Well, Benoni, please explain, then, scriptures such as these:

"Yet a little while and the wicked man will be no more; and you will look carefully for his place and he will not be there....His sword will enter his own heart, and his bow will be broken." (Psalm 37:10,15, NASB)

"The wicked will perish and the enemies of the LORD will be like the flowers of the pastures, they vanish---like smoke they vanish away." (Psalml 37:20)


BENONI RESPONDED:

Yes the wicked will be no more because God's fire will burn up all the wickedness.



ONEWITHHIM REPLIED:
It says that we will look for him but will not find him. We would be able to find him if he had once been wicked but now was righteous, wouldn't you say?

Jesus will be like a refining fire, ridding the earth of evil people. The Scriptures say that even if evil people were allowed to go into Paradise, they would not be good.

"Though the wicked is shown favor, he does not learn righteousness; he deals unjustly in the land of uprightness, and does not perceive the majesty of the LORD." (Isaiah 26:10, NASB)

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God has many ages to deal with the wicked. The blood of Jesus is far more powerful than the sin of Adam.

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Amos 9:1 In that day will I raise up the tabernacle of David that is fallen, and close up the breaches thereof; and I will raise up his ruins, and I will build it as in the days of old:
12That they may possess the remnant of Edom, and of all the heathen, which are called by my name, saith the LORD that doeth this.
13Behold, the days come, saith the LORD, that the plowman shall overtake the reaper, and the treader of grapes him that soweth seed; and the mountains shall drop sweet wine, and all the hills shall melt.
14And I will bring again the captivity of my people of Israel, and they shall build the waste cities, and inhabit them; and they shall plant vineyards, and drink the wine thereof; they shall also make gardens, and eat the fruit of them.
15And I will plant them upon their land, and they shall no more be pulled up out of their land which I have given them, saith the LORD thy God.







Acts 15: 13-18 (ESV) 16(A) "'After this I will return,and I will rebuild the tent of David that has fallen;I will rebuild its ruins, and I will restore it 17that the remnant of mankind(B) may seek the Lord, and all the Gentiles(C) who are called by my name, says the Lord, who makes these things 18(D) known from of old.'

Acts 15: 13-18 (Message) James broke the silence. "Friends, listen. Simeon has told us the story of how God at the very outset made sure that racial outsiders were included. This is in perfect agreement with the words of the prophets: After this, I'm coming back; I'll rebuild David's ruined house; I'll put all the pieces together again; I'll make it look like new So outsiders who seek will find, so they'll have a place to come to, All the pagan peoples included in what I'm doing. "God said it and now he's doing it. It's no afterthought; he's always known he would do this
Acts 15: (Amp) 17So that the rest of men may seek the Lord, and all the Gentiles upon whom My name has been invoked,
Acts 15: (HCSB) 17 so that those who are left of mankind may seek the Lord" even all the Gentiles who are called by My name, says the Lord who does these things,
Acts 15: 17 (NIRV) Then the rest of the people can look to the Lord. This means all the non-Jews who belong to me. The Lord says this. He is the one who does these things.' "(Amos 9:11,12)
Now if the rest of men may seek the Lord, All the pagan peoples included in what I'm doing , all the Gentiles , the remainder of man kind are destroyed as you proclaim in the Lake of Devine Purging (Lake of Fire); then what about this promise.

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C-3PO gets gunned down
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VND-L2EL8BQ

Forward, Flipped, and Reversed

JOSHUA 14:2 By lot [was] their inheritance, as the LORD commanded by the hand of Moses, for the nine tribes, and [for] the half tribe.
LUKE 17:16 And fell down on [his] face at his feet, giving him thanks: and he was a Samaritan.
LUKE 17:17 And Jesus answering said, Were there not ten cleansed? but where [are] the nine?
REVELATION 14:20 And the winepress was trodden without the city, and blood came out of the winepress, even unto the horse bridles, by the space of a thousand [and] six hundred furlongs.

1. 9120 (9 1/2)
2. 1900
3. 1600

10/18/1982 + 19 Years = 9/11/2001 + 16 Years = 9/23/2017

Resurrection
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=61NYbkyF7jE

JUDE 1:14 And Enoch also, the seventh from Adam, prophesied of these, saying, Behold, the Lord cometh with ten thousands of his saints,
GENESIS 5:5 And all the days that Adam lived were nine hundred and thirty years: and he died.
GENESIS 5:8 And all the days of Seth were nine hundred and twelve years: and he died.
GENESIS 5:11 And all the days of Enos were nine hundred and five years: and he died.
GENESIS 5:14 And all the days of Cainan were nine hundred and ten years: and he died.
REVELATION 13:18 Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number [is] Six hundred threescore [and] six.

1. 99.99% Percent Does not have a Legal Right to Live or Salvation at any point in time
2. 666 Point of Discernment in the Salvation Program (Moses/Noah, or 600,000 for Moses and 66,000 for Elias of the Lord's Living Body (Exodus 12:37/Luke 4:26)

33 Days to Resolve INRI like Jonah with Ninevah, it is the Antichrist's Claim against New York City and New York State, that must be resolved during this time.................the Human Variant of Rabies you've been recording in the ethnic bodies is natural response to Joseph the Blessings, in specific and unique cases of God performing euthanasia for the benefit of the gospel that is going out.................there are greater issue that will need be resolved:

1. 42 Months Flight 370 = Warning about the Resolution of New York City by Nuclear Fire
2. 42 Months of God's Mercies = Ensign of the Nations according to Isaiah, barring the Iron Rod of Joseph
3. 42 Months of Sign of Divorce = Global Euthanasia to Solicit Favor from God according to his WILL for the 5 Months of Global Exodus

1260 and 1260 and 1260 of Revelation is described three separate times with three separate descriptions, paralleling "666", in its own unique way..................God Officially Has the 200,000,000 in View that is Tried in the Confirmation of the Covenant for Seven Years to kill "dead work and dead flesh", then the plague of human rabies should become more prevalent during this time, based on the activity of "Joseph the Blessings" which is a measurement of God's activity in revealing his mercies and judgment, if I am only one measure, then there are many more magnitudes.

(the 70x7 Equation of Daniel 9, (Jude 1:14), is a statement about God's interests in salvation) If 666,000 was completed at the Crucifixion of Jesus, then the war with the Gospel man as continued has dissolved all mercy, until a set season when God brings the judgment of 200,000,000 into fruition, paralleling Noah with Moses at the end of time.)

(INRI, Inc*/Rape/Murder, just sentencing thousands to death weekly by pleasuring yourselves with me, that includes using the ethnic people to justify your ego, all of this reaches a conclusion soon. Along with whatever evidence I will be given from God to demand your lives in exceeding God's Law, based on the expenditure of energy.......................From this point forward in the near future, Genetic Dan and the Nations with no favor from God will exceedingly promote their genocide and the mass genocide of man, whatever involves God's Mercies will become clear cut, very soon. Also, according to the progressive nature of God revealing truth and its impact on man........................It was only out of pleasure that you have avoided the global assisted suicide program of the ethnic peoples, creating Global Terrorism, now this will evolve into your daily and routine suffering and pain and death, until you learn to do what is necessary, very soon)

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