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[imhereforyou]

He created all that is, but needs your hard earned money to build a church or pay his people?
Why?
Why can't God create a church from the ground without your money (or time, for that matter)?

Surely the spontaneous creation of a building with all the plumbing and electrical needed would be enough to convince most, if not all, of his existence. But we don't see that - we see faces of Jesus in grilled cheeses or Doritos. No...no spontaneous church creation - that requires your money.

The typical response is "God doesn't need your money, you need to give your money to God" or the like. But if you're a Christian, and the love of money is the root of all evil, shouldn't you not be so concerned with your $ that it is a challenge for you to give it up to build a church or pay the electric bill?

So what's the real reason such a being needs your money to further his kingdom?

[JoeyKnothead]

From the OP:

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Why does God need it?

'Cause preachers need jets.

[tam]

Peace to you!

He created all that is, but needs your hard earned money to build a church or pay his people?

He needs no money to build a church. In fact, He needs no man-made house at all. The Church is made of PEOPLE. Those people who belong to Christ, as His Bride, His Body. Christ is building the Church (made of people) with those people that His Father has given Him.


No money required at all, much less required from us.

Why?
Why can't God create a church from the ground without your money (or time, for that matter)?

He can, and has, and is continuing to do this. The Body and Bride of His Son (made of many members, both men and women)... this is the Church. This Bride is also called the New Jerusalem, a city made... again... of PEOPLE.

Not brick, mortar, wood, plaster, plumbing, electrical, etc, etc.

Instead God and His Son are building a LIVING Church. A living Church for a LIVING God. Just as Christ is the LIVING image of the living God; the living WORD for the living God.

Surely the spontaneous creation of a building with all the plumbing and electrical needed would be enough to convince most, if not all, of his existence. But we don't see that - we see faces of Jesus in grilled cheeses or Doritos. No...no spontaneous church creation - that requires your money.

Perhaps because men have mistakenly believed and taught that buildings and religions are the church, when actually the Church is the Body of Christ, with Christ as her Head.

The typical response is "God doesn't need your money, you need to give your money to God" or the like. But if you're a Christian, and the love of money is the root of all evil, shouldn't you not be so concerned with your $ that it is a challenge for you to give it up to build a church or pay the electric bill?

I don't tend to know or accept (at face value) the 'typical response'. But it is usually men and/or religions that 'need' your money. So they make up responses such as the one you typed out.

(and the love of money is the root of all kinds of evil; but not necessarily the root of ALL evil)


Christ did say to give to the poor, to give to those in need (perhaps food, perhaps shelter, perhaps money, etc, and always love - which may mean giving some of these other things as well). That is done out of love, for God and Christ of course, and for our fellow man.



But to build a church? God does not need our money to build the church. God does not need ANY money to build the church. The Church is made of PEOPLE.



Peace again to you,
your servant and a slave of Christ,
tammy

[alexxcJRO]

He created all that is, but needs your hard earned money to build a church or pay his people?
Why?
Why can't God create a church from the ground without your money (or time, for that matter)?

Surely the spontaneous creation of a building with all the plumbing and electrical needed would be enough to convince most, if not all, of his existence. But we don't see that - we see faces of Jesus in grilled cheeses or Doritos. No...no spontaneous church creation - that requires your money.

The typical response is "God doesn't need your money, you need to give your money to God" or the like. But if you're a Christian, and the love of money is the root of all evil, shouldn't you not be so concerned with your $ that it is a challenge for you to give it up to build a church or pay the electric bill?

So what's the real reason such a being needs your money to further his kingdom?

Because

1. God does not exist and religion is the biggest con game ever invented.

or

2. God is so weak(far from being omnipotent) that he cannot do it himself and needs some people's money and help in order to convince other people of his existence, message and so one.

[Wootah]

[Replying to post 4 by alexxcJRO]

False dilemma bro. Option 3 - he wants us to play a part.

[JehovahsWitness]

[Replying to post 1 by imhereforyou]

God doesn't need anything much less money however he has chosen to allow Satan to rule this present system and instructed his worshippers to live within it without the guarantee of instantaneous miracles to sustain them in this material world. Thus the godly have the privilege of proving their devotion to Him by living without the benefit of spectacular miracles.

It is for this reason the godly also need money for material things including the building and maintenance of dedicated buildings.

Jehovah's Witnesses never charge a fee for preaching or teaching, all weddings, funeral services and pastoral visits are conducted free of charge. They do not charge the public for any of the books or magazines they print and visit people and conduct bible studies for free. Their website contains no commercial advertising. Our "church" buildings are mostly built by volunteer workers who work for free.

They do not have a paid clergy.

To learn more please go to other posts related to...

JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES , FINANCES and ... CHURCH LEADERSHIP

[alexxcJRO]

[Replying to post 4 by alexxcJRO]

False dilemma bro. Option 3 - he wants us to play a part.

Nonsense.


Q: Part in what? In convincing the world of his existence and his message?


Q: Is your God not omnipotent? Why would an omnipotent being use such an inefficient way?

Does not make any sense i am afraid.

We have billions of people that are non-believers, not Christians. We have billions that have died non-believers, not Christians and will have many billions in the future that will be non-believers, not Christians.

I am afraid is still option 2 or option 1.

[1213]

He created all that is, but needs your hard earned money to build a church or pay his people?
...

I just want to show what Bible tells about this:

The God who made the world and all things in it, he, being Lord of heaven and earth, doesn't dwell in temples made with hands, neither is he served by men's hands, as though he needed anything, seeing he himself gives to all life and breath, and all things.
Acts 17:24-25

Hopefully that helps even some people to get better understanding.

[Tcg]

Our "church" buildings are mostly built by volunteer workers who work for free.

Unless God miraculously provides all the material needed for the construction of your church buildings, then money is needed for their completion. Additionally, unless God is creating free land for your church, money is needed to procure it. Does God do this or is money involved in the building process? If money is involved in some way, then your claim doesn't address the OP in any way.

[Tcg]

I just want to show what Bible tells about this:

The God who made the world and all things in it, he, being Lord of heaven and earth, doesn't dwell in temples made with hands, neither is he served by men's hands, as though he needed anything, seeing he himself gives to all life and breath, and all things.
Acts 17:24-25

Hopefully that helps even some people to get better understanding.

The discussion is about church buildings. The buildings where "God's people" gather to "worship" God. It is clearly not about temples. These verses don't address the topic at hand in any way.