What is "The Good News?"

[EBA]

Tell me, what is "The Good News?"

Peace be to all.

[TripleZ]

Didn't you hear "The Bad News"?

God is out to condemn you to everlasting punishment.

The "Good News" is that his Son can supposedly save you from his irate Dad.

There's no point in placing your faith in the "Good News" if you haven't already placed your faith in the "Bad News".

that is so terribly wrong,, man sinned, NOT God.. how can you possibly blame GOD and then not even offer up one dot of evidence to prove your apparent " blasphemy "..?
If God was really out to condemn us to eternal punishment, then we will all be eternally punished for certain, and there will be, NO WAY POSSIBLE AT ALL TO ESCAPE HIS PUNISHMENT!!
Do you even understand your own claims here ? Can you outsmart and outwit God Himself, by following what men tell you to do or to say ? So then, exactly who is it that you think you are really " following " if you, a mere mortal human, ( like all of us ) who you all can so easily outwit and fool, well it surly can NOT be GOD ?

[onewithhim]

Tell me, what is "The Good News?"

Peace be to all.

the good news is that all mankind is and can be saved form eternal separation from God by the blood of Yeshua, God only begotten Son...

Yes, that is PART of the Good News. There's more. What was Jesus' main topic in his preaching work? THE KINGDOM. He talked about it wherever he went. The Kingdom is a real government with Jesus as the King, that will be the avenue by which the earth is brought back to pristine conditions and mankind will experience real peace and joy.

He said: "I must declare the good news of the kingdom of God, because for this I was sent forth." (Luke 4:43)

[TripleZ]

[Replying to post 1 by EBA]

Biblically the "good news" is the information regarding God's purpose to bring and end to human suffering, vindicate his name and establish universal and eternal peace.


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that is the good news by human being and BTW God dooes NOT ever neeed to be vindicated by non believers...
Here it is in the Word Of God Bible;

1Co 15:1 Now, brothers, I must remind you of the Good News which I proclaimed to you, and which you received, and on which you have taken your stand,
1Co 15:2 and by which you are being saved " provided you keep holding fast to the message I proclaimed to you. For if you don't, your trust will have been in vain.
1Co 15:3 For among the first things I passed on to you was what I also received, namely this: the Messiah died for our sins, in accordance with what the Tanakh says;
1Co 15:4 and he was buried; and he was raised on the third day, in accordance with what the Tanakh says;
1Co 15:5 and he was seen by Kefa, then by the Twelve;
1Co 15:6 and afterwards he was seen by more than five hundred brothers at one time, the majority of whom are still alive, though some have died.
1Co 15:7 Later he was seen by Yaakov, then by all the emissaries;
1Co 15:8 and last of all he was seen by me, even though I was born at the wrong time.
1Co 15:9 For I am the least of all the emissaries, unfit to be called an emissary, because I persecuted the Messianic Community of God.
1Co 15:10 But by God's grace I am what I am, and his grace towards me was not in vain; on the contrary, I have worked harder than all of them, although it was not I but the grace of God with me.
1Co 15:11 Anyhow, whether I or they, this is what we proclaim, and this is what you believed.
1Co 15:12 But if it has been proclaimed that the Messiah has been raised from the dead, how is it that some of you are saying there is no such thing as a resurrection of the dead?
1Co 15:13 If there is no resurrection of the dead, then the Messiah has not been raised;
1Co 15:14 and if the Messiah has not been raised, then what we have proclaimed is in vain; also your trust is in vain;
1Co 15:15 furthermore, we are shown up as false witnesses for God in having testified that God raised up the Messiah, whom he did not raise if it is true that the dead are not raised.
1Co 15:16 For if the dead are not raised, then the Messiah has not been raised either;
1Co 15:17 and if the Messiah has not been raised, your trust is useless, and you are still in your sins.
1Co 15:18 Also, if this is the case, those who died in union with the Messiah are lost.
1Co 15:19 If it is only for this life that we have put our hope in the Messiah, we are more pitiable than anyone.
1Co 15:20 But the fact is that the Messiah has been raised from the dead, the firstfruits of those who have died.
1Co 15:21 For since death came through a man, also the resurrection of the dead has come through a man.
1Co 15:22 For just as in connection with Adam all die, so in connection with the Messiah all will be made alive.
1Co 15:23 But each in his own order: the Messiah is the firstfruits; then those who belong to the Messiah, at the time of his coming;
1Co 15:24 then the culmination, when he hands over the Kingdom to God the Father, after having put an end to every rulership, yes, to every authority and power.
1Co 15:25 For he has to rule until he puts all his enemies under his feet.
1Co 15:26 The last enemy to be done away with will be death,
1Co 15:27 for "He put everything in subjection under his feet." But when it says that "everything" has been subjected, obviously the word does not include God, who is himself the one subjecting everything to the Messiah.
1Co 15:28 Now when everything has been subjected to the Son, then he will subject himself to God, who subjected everything to him; so that God may be everything in everyone.
1Co 15:29 Were it otherwise, what would the people accomplish who are immersed on behalf of the dead? If the dead are not actually raised, why are people immersed for them?
1Co 15:30 For that matter, we ourselves " why do we keep facing danger hour by hour?
1Co 15:31 Brothers, by the right to be proud which the Messiah Yeshua our Lord gives me, I solemnly tell you that I die every day.
1Co 15:32 If my fighting with "wild beasts" in Ephesus was done merely on a human basis, what do I gain by it? If dead people are not raised, we might as well live by the saying, "Let's eat and drink, for tomorrow we die!"
1Co 15:33 Don't be fooled. "Bad company ruins good character."
1Co 15:34 Come to your senses! Live righteously and stop sinning! There are some people who lack knowledge of God " I say this to your shame.
1Co 15:35 But someone will ask, "In what manner are the dead raised? What sort of body do they have?"
1Co 15:36 Stupid! When you sow a seed, it doesn't come alive unless it first dies.
1Co 15:37 Also, what you sow is not the body that will be, but a bare seed of, say, wheat or something else;
1Co 15:38 but God gives it the body he intended for it; and to each kind of seed he gives its own body.
1Co 15:39 Not all living matter is the same living matter; on the contrary, there is one kind for human beings, another kind of living matter for animals, another for birds and another for fish.
1Co 15:40 Further, there are heavenly bodies and earthly bodies; but the beauty of heavenly bodies is one thing, while the beauty of earthly bodies is something else.
1Co 15:41 The sun has one kind of beauty, the moon another, the stars yet another; indeed, each star has its own individual kind of beauty.
1Co 15:42 So it is with the resurrection of the dead. When the body is "sown," it decays; when it is raised, it cannot decay.
1Co 15:43 When sown, it is without dignity; when raised, it will be beautiful. When sown, it is weak; when raised, it will be strong.
1Co 15:44 When sown, it is an ordinary human body; when raised, it will be a body controlled by the Spirit. If there is an ordinary human body, there is also a body controlled by the Spirit.
1Co 15:45 In fact, the Tanakh says so: Adam, the first man, became a living human being; but the last "Adam" has become a life-giving Spirit.
1Co 15:46 Note, however, that the body from the Spirit did not come first, but the ordinary human one; the one from the Spirit comes afterwards.
1Co 15:47 The first man is from the earth, made of dust; the second man is from heaven.
1Co 15:48 People born of dust are like the man of dust, and people born from heaven are like the man from heaven;
1Co 15:49 and just as we have borne the image of the man of dust, so also we will bear the image of the man from heaven.
1Co 15:50 Let me say this, brothers: flesh and blood cannot share in the Kingdom of God, nor can something that decays share in what does not decay.
1Co 15:51 Look, I will tell you a secret " not all of us will die! But we will all be changed!
1Co 15:52 It will take but a moment, the blink of an eye, at the final shofar. For the shofar will sound, and the dead will be raised to live forever, and we too will be changed.
1Co 15:53 For this material which can decay must be clothed with imperishability, this which is mortal must be clothed with immortality.
1Co 15:54 When what decays puts on imperishability and what is mortal puts on immortality, then this passage in the Tanakh will be fulfilled: "Death is swallowed up in victory.
1Co 15:55 "Death, where is your victory? Death, where is your sting?"
1Co 15:56 The sting of death is sin; and sin draws its power from the Torah;
1Co 15:57 but thanks be to God, who gives us the victory through our Lord Yeshua the Messiah!
1Co 15:58 So, my dear brothers, stand firm and immovable, always doing the Lord's work as vigorously as you can, knowing that united with the Lord your efforts are not in vain.

[TripleZ]

Tell me, what is "The Good News?"

Peace be to all.

better still let me show you the very Word of God Himself on this;

1Co 15:1 Now, brothers, I must remind you of the Good News which I proclaimed to you, and which you received, and on which you have taken your stand,
1Co 15:2 and by which you are being saved " provided you keep holding fast to the message I proclaimed to you. For if you don't, your trust will have been in vain.
1Co 15:3 For among the first things I passed on to you was what I also received, namely this: the Messiah died for our sins, in accordance with what the Tanakh says;
1Co 15:4 and he was buried; and he was raised on the third day, in accordance with what the Tanakh says;
1Co 15:5 and he was seen by Kefa, then by the Twelve;
1Co 15:6 and afterwards he was seen by more than five hundred brothers at one time, the majority of whom are still alive, though some have died.
1Co 15:7 Later he was seen by Yaakov, then by all the emissaries;
1Co 15:8 and last of all he was seen by me, even though I was born at the wrong time.
1Co 15:9 For I am the least of all the emissaries, unfit to be called an emissary, because I persecuted the Messianic Community of God.
1Co 15:10 But by God's grace I am what I am, and his grace towards me was not in vain; on the contrary, I have worked harder than all of them, although it was not I but the grace of God with me.
1Co 15:11 Anyhow, whether I or they, this is what we proclaim, and this is what you believed.
1Co 15:12 But if it has been proclaimed that the Messiah has been raised from the dead, how is it that some of you are saying there is no such thing as a resurrection of the dead?
1Co 15:13 If there is no resurrection of the dead, then the Messiah has not been raised;
1Co 15:14 and if the Messiah has not been raised, then what we have proclaimed is in vain; also your trust is in vain;
1Co 15:15 furthermore, we are shown up as false witnesses for God in having testified that God raised up the Messiah, whom he did not raise if it is true that the dead are not raised.
1Co 15:16 For if the dead are not raised, then the Messiah has not been raised either;
1Co 15:17 and if the Messiah has not been raised, your trust is useless, and you are still in your sins.
1Co 15:18 Also, if this is the case, those who died in union with the Messiah are lost.
1Co 15:19 If it is only for this life that we have put our hope in the Messiah, we are more pitiable than anyone.
1Co 15:20 But the fact is that the Messiah has been raised from the dead, the firstfruits of those who have died.
1Co 15:21 For since death came through a man, also the resurrection of the dead has come through a man.
1Co 15:22 For just as in connection with Adam all die, so in connection with the Messiah all will be made alive.
1Co 15:23 But each in his own order: the Messiah is the firstfruits; then those who belong to the Messiah, at the time of his coming;
1Co 15:24 then the culmination, when he hands over the Kingdom to God the Father, after having put an end to every rulership, yes, to every authority and power.
1Co 15:25 For he has to rule until he puts all his enemies under his feet.
1Co 15:26 The last enemy to be done away with will be death,
1Co 15:27 for "He put everything in subjection under his feet." But when it says that "everything" has been subjected, obviously the word does not include God, who is himself the one subjecting everything to the Messiah.
1Co 15:28 Now when everything has been subjected to the Son, then he will subject himself to God, who subjected everything to him; so that God may be everything in everyone.
1Co 15:29 Were it otherwise, what would the people accomplish who are immersed on behalf of the dead? If the dead are not actually raised, why are people immersed for them?
1Co 15:30 For that matter, we ourselves " why do we keep facing danger hour by hour?
1Co 15:31 Brothers, by the right to be proud which the Messiah Yeshua our Lord gives me, I solemnly tell you that I die every day.
1Co 15:32 If my fighting with "wild beasts" in Ephesus was done merely on a human basis, what do I gain by it? If dead people are not raised, we might as well live by the saying, "Let's eat and drink, for tomorrow we die!"
1Co 15:33 Don't be fooled. "Bad company ruins good character."
1Co 15:34 Come to your senses! Live righteously and stop sinning! There are some people who lack knowledge of God " I say this to your shame.
1Co 15:35 But someone will ask, "In what manner are the dead raised? What sort of body do they have?"
1Co 15:36 Stupid! When you sow a seed, it doesn't come alive unless it first dies.
1Co 15:37 Also, what you sow is not the body that will be, but a bare seed of, say, wheat or something else;
1Co 15:38 but God gives it the body he intended for it; and to each kind of seed he gives its own body.
1Co 15:39 Not all living matter is the same living matter; on the contrary, there is one kind for human beings, another kind of living matter for animals, another for birds and another for fish.
1Co 15:40 Further, there are heavenly bodies and earthly bodies; but the beauty of heavenly bodies is one thing, while the beauty of earthly bodies is something else.
1Co 15:41 The sun has one kind of beauty, the moon another, the stars yet another; indeed, each star has its own individual kind of beauty.
1Co 15:42 So it is with the resurrection of the dead. When the body is "sown," it decays; when it is raised, it cannot decay.
1Co 15:43 When sown, it is without dignity; when raised, it will be beautiful. When sown, it is weak; when raised, it will be strong.
1Co 15:44 When sown, it is an ordinary human body; when raised, it will be a body controlled by the Spirit. If there is an ordinary human body, there is also a body controlled by the Spirit.
1Co 15:45 In fact, the Tanakh says so: Adam, the first man, became a living human being; but the last "Adam" has become a life-giving Spirit.
1Co 15:46 Note, however, that the body from the Spirit did not come first, but the ordinary human one; the one from the Spirit comes afterwards.
1Co 15:47 The first man is from the earth, made of dust; the second man is from heaven.
1Co 15:48 People born of dust are like the man of dust, and people born from heaven are like the man from heaven;
1Co 15:49 and just as we have borne the image of the man of dust, so also we will bear the image of the man from heaven.
1Co 15:50 Let me say this, brothers: flesh and blood cannot share in the Kingdom of God, nor can something that decays share in what does not decay.
1Co 15:51 Look, I will tell you a secret " not all of us will die! But we will all be changed!
1Co 15:52 It will take but a moment, the blink of an eye, at the final shofar. For the shofar will sound, and the dead will be raised to live forever, and we too will be changed.
1Co 15:53 For this material which can decay must be clothed with imperishability, this which is mortal must be clothed with immortality.
1Co 15:54 When what decays puts on imperishability and what is mortal puts on immortality, then this passage in the Tanakh will be fulfilled: "Death is swallowed up in victory.
1Co 15:55 "Death, where is your victory? Death, where is your sting?"
1Co 15:56 The sting of death is sin; and sin draws its power from the Torah;
1Co 15:57 but thanks be to God, who gives us the victory through our Lord Yeshua the Messiah!
1Co 15:58 So, my dear brothers, stand firm and immovable, always doing the Lord's work as vigorously as you can, knowing that united with the Lord your efforts are not in vain.

and yet again;
Rom 1:2 God promised this Good News in advance through his prophets in the Tanakh.
Rom 1:3 It concerns his Son " he is descended from David physically;
Rom 1:4 he was powerfully demonstrated to be Son of God spiritually, set apart by his having been resurrected from the dead; he is Yeshua the Messiah, our Lord.
Rom 1:5 Through him we received grace and were given the work of being an emissary on his behalf promoting trust-grounded obedience among all the Gentiles,
Rom 1:6 including you, who have been called by Yeshua the Messiah.
Rom 1:7 To: All those in Rome whom God loves, who have been called, who have been set apart for him: Grace to you and shalom from God our Father and the Lord Yeshua the Messiah.
Rom 1:8 First, I thank my God through Yeshua the Messiah for all of you, because the report of your trust is spreading throughout the whole world.
Rom 1:9 For God, whom I serve in my spirit by spreading the Good News about his Son, is my witness that I regularly remember you
Rom 1:10 in my prayers; and I always pray that somehow, now or in the future, I might, by God's will, succeed in coming to visit you.
Rom 1:11 For I long to see you, so that I might share with you some spiritual gift that can make you stronger "
Rom 1:12 or, to put it another way, so that by my being with you, we might, through the faith we share, encourage one another.
Rom 1:13 Brothers, I want you to know that although I have been prevented from visiting you until now, I have often planned to do so, in order that I might have some fruit among you, just as I have among the other Gentiles.
Rom 1:14 I owe a debt to both civilized Greeks and uncivilized people, to both the educated and the ignorant;
Rom 1:15 therefore I am eager to proclaim the Good News also to you who live in Rome.
Rom 1:16 For I am not ashamed of the Good News, since it is God's powerful means of bringing salvation to everyone who keeps on trusting, to the Jew especially, but equally to the Gentile.
Rom 1:17 For in it is revealed how God makes people righteous in his sight; and from beginning to end it is through trust " as the Tanakh puts it, "But the person who is righteous will live his life by trust."
Rom 1:18 What is revealed is God's anger from heaven against all the godlessness and wickedness of people who in their wickedness keep suppressing the truth;
Rom 1:19 because what is known about God is plain to them, since God has made it plain to them.
Rom 1:20 For ever since the creation of the universe his invisible qualities " both his eternal power and his divine nature " have been clearly seen, because they can be understood from what he has made. Therefore, they have no excuse;
Rom 1:21 because, although they know who God is, they do not glorify him as God or thank him. On the contrary, they have become futile in their thinking; and their undiscerning hearts have become darkened.
Rom 1:22 Claiming to be wise, they have become fools!

verse/passages in the Scripture TO the messianic Communities..

Act_5:42 And not for a single day, either in the Temple court or in private homes, did they stop teaching and proclaiming the Good News that Yeshua is the Messiah.
Act_8:4 However, those who were scattered announced the Good News of the Word wherever they went.
Act_8:12 But when they came to believe Philip, as he announced the Good News concerning the Kingdom of God and the name of Yeshua the Messiah, they were immersed, both men and women.
Act_8:25 Then, after giving a thorough witness and speaking the Word of the Lord, Kefa and Yochanan started back to Yerushalayim, announcing the Good News to many villages in Shomron.
Act_8:35 Then Philip started to speak " beginning with that passage, he went on to tell him the Good News about Yeshua.
Act_8:40 But Philip showed up at Ashdod and continued proclaiming the Good News as he went through all the towns until he came to Caesarea.
Act_11:20 However, some of these, men from Cyprus and Cyrene, when they arrived at Antioch, began speaking to the Greeks too, proclaiming the Good News of the Lord Yeshua.
Act_13:32 "As for us, we are bringing you the Good News that what God promised to the fathers,
Act_14:7 where they continued proclaiming the Good News.
Act_14:21 After proclaiming the Good News in that city and making many people into talmidim, they returned to Lystra, Iconium and Antioch,
Act_15:7 After lengthy debate, Kefa got up and said to them, "Brothers, you yourselves know that a good while back, God chose me from among you to be the one by whose mouth the Goyim should hear the message of the Good News and come to trust.
Act_15:35 But Sha'ul and Bar-Nabba stayed in Antioch, where they and many others taught and proclaimed the Good News of the message about the Lord.
Act_16:10 As soon as he had seen the vision, we lost no time getting ready to leave for Macedonia; for we concluded that God had called us to proclaim the Good News to them.
Act_17:18 Also a group of Epicurean and Stoic philosophers started meeting with him. Some asked, "What is this babbler trying to say?" Others, because he proclaimed the Good News about Yeshua and the resurrection, said, "He sounds like a propagandist for foreign gods."
Act_20:24 But I consider my own life of no importance to me whatsoever, as long as I can finish the course ahead of me, the task I received from the Lord Yeshua " to declare in depth the Good News of God's love and kindness.
Act_21:8 The following day, we left and came to Caesarea, where we went to the home of Philip the proclaimer of the Good News, one of the Seven, and stayed with him.
Rom_1:1 From: Sha'ul, a slave of the Messiah Yeshua, an emissary because I was called and set apart for the Good News of God.
Rom_1:9 For God, whom I serve in my spirit by spreading the Good News about his Son, is my witness that I regularly remember you
Rom_1:15 therefore I am eager to proclaim the Good News also to you who live in Rome.
Rom_1:16 For I am not ashamed of the Good News, since it is God's powerful means of bringing salvation to everyone who keeps on trusting, to the Jew especially, but equally to the Gentile.
Rom_2:16 on a day when God passes judgment on people's inmost secrets. (According to the Good News as I proclaim it, he does this through the Messiah Yeshua.)
Rom_10:16 The problem is that they haven't all paid attention to the Good News and obeyed it. For Yeshayahu says, "Adonai, who has trusted what he has heard from us?"
Rom_11:28 With respect to the Good News they are hated for your sake. But with respect to being chosen they are loved for the Patriarchs' sake,
Rom_15:16 to be a servant of the Messiah Yeshua for the Gentiles, with the priestly duty of presenting the Good News of God, so that the Gentiles may be an acceptable offering, made holy by the Ruach HaKodesh.
Rom_15:19 through the power of signs and miracles, through the power of the Spirit of God. So from Yerushalayim all the way to Illyricum I have fully proclaimed the Good News of the Messiah.
Rom_15:20 I have always made it my ambition to proclaim the Good News where the Messiah was not yet known, so that I would not be building on someone else's foundation,
1Co_1:17 For the Messiah did not send me to immerse but to proclaim the Good News " and to do it without relying on "wisdom" that consists of mere rhetoric, so as not to rob the Messiah's execution-stake of its power.
1Co_4:15 For even if you have ten thousand trainers in connection with the Messiah, you do not have many fathers; for in connection with the Messiah Yeshua it was I who became your father by means of the Good News.
1Co_9:12 If others are sharing in this right to be supported by you, don't we have a greater claim to it? But we don't make use of this right. Rather, we put up with all kinds of things so as not to impede in any way the Good News about the Messiah.
1Co_9:14 In the same way, the Lord directed that those who proclaim the Good News should get their living from the Good News.
1Co_9:16 For I can't boast merely because I proclaim the Good News " this I do from inner compulsion: woe is me if I don't proclaim the Good News!
1Co_9:18 So then, what is my reward? Just this: that in proclaiming the Good News I can make it available free of charge, without making use of the rights to which it entitles me.
1Co_9:23 But I do it all because of the rewards promised by the Good News, so that I may share in them along with the others who come to trust.
1Co_9:27 I treat my body hard and make it my slave so that, after proclaiming the Good News to others, I myself will not be disqualified.
1Co_15:1 Now, brothers, I must remind you of the Good News which I proclaimed to you, and which you received, and on which you have taken your stand,
2Co_2:12 Now when I went to Troas to proclaim the Good News of the Messiah, since a door had been opened for me by the Lord,
2Co_4:4 They do not come to trust because the god of the olam hazeh has blinded their minds, in order to prevent them from seeing the light shining from the Good News about the glory of the Messiah, who is the image of God.
2Co_8:18 And with him we are sending the brother whose work for the Good News is praised in all the congregations;
2Co_9:13 In offering this service you prove to these people that you glorify God by actually doing what your acknowledgement of the Good News of the Messiah requires, namely, sharing generously with them and with everyone.
2Co_10:14 We are not overextending our boasting as if we had not reached as far as you; for we did come all the way to you with the Good News of the Messiah.
2Co_10:16 namely, to proclaim the Good News in regions beyond you. Our hope is not to boast about the work already done by someone else.
2Co_11:4 For if someone comes and tells you about some other Yeshua than the one we told you about, or if you receive a spirit different from the one you received or accept some so-called "good news" different from the Good News you already accepted, you bear with him well enough!
Gal_1:8 But even if we " or, for that matter, an angel from heaven! " were to announce to you some so-called "Good News" contrary to the Good News we did announce to you, let him be under a curse forever!
Gal_1:11 Furthermore, let me make clear to you, brothers, that the Good News as I proclaim it is not a human product;
Gal_1:23 they were only hearing the report, "The one who used to persecute us now preaches the Good News of the faith he was formerly out to destroy";
Gal_2:2 I went up in obedience to a revelation, and I explained to them the Good News as I proclaim it among the Gentiles " but privately, to the acknowledged leaders. I did this out of concern that my current or previous work might have been in vain.
Gal_2:5 Not even for a minute did we give in to them, so that the truth of the Good News might be preserved for you.
Gal_2:7 On the contrary, they saw that I had been entrusted with the Good News for the Uncircumcised, just as Kefa had been for the Circumcised;
Gal_2:14 But when I saw that they were not walking a straight path, keeping in line with the truth of the Good News, I said to Kefa, right in front of everyone, "If you, who are a Jew, live like a Goy and not like a Jew, why are you forcing the Goyim to live like Jews?
Gal_3:8 Also the Tanakh, foreseeing that God would consider the Gentiles righteous when they live by trusting and being faithful, told the Good News to Avraham in advance by saying, "In connection with you, all the Goyim will be blessed."
Gal_4:13 you know that it was because I was ill that I proclaimed the Good News to you at first;
Eph_1:13 Furthermore, you who heard the message of the truth, the Good News offering you deliverance, and put your trust in the Messiah were sealed by him with the promised Ruach HaKodesh,
Eph_3:6 that in union with the Messiah and through the Good News the Gentiles were to be joint heirs, a joint body and joint sharers with the Jews in what God has promised.
Eph_3:8 To me, the least important of all God's holy people, was given this privilege of announcing to the Gentiles the Good News of the Messiah's unfathomable riches,
Eph_4:11 Furthermore, he gave some people as emissaries, some as prophets, some as proclaimers of the Good News, and some as shepherds and teachers.
Eph_6:15 and wear on your feet the readiness that comes from the Good News of shalom.
Eph_6:19 And pray for me, too, that whenever I open my mouth, the words will be given to me to be bold in making known the secret of the Good News,
Php_1:5 because you have shared in proclaiming the Good News from the very first day until now.
Php_1:7 It is right for me to think this way about you all, because I have you on my heart; for whether I am in chains or defending and establishing the Good News, you are all sharing with me in this privileged work.
Php_1:12 Now, brothers, I want you to know that what has happened to me has helped in advancing the Good News.
Php_1:16 The latter act from love, aware that I am put where I am for defending the Good News;
Php_1:27 Only conduct your lives in a way worthy of the Good News of the Messiah; so that whether I come and see you or I hear about you from a distance, you stand firm, united in spirit, fighting with one accord for the faith of the Good News,
Php_2:22 But you know his character, that like a child with his father he slaved with me to advance the Good News.
Php_4:3 I also request you, loyal Syzygus, to help these women; for they have worked hard proclaiming the Good News with me, along with Clement and the rest of my fellow-workers whose names are in the Book of Life.
Php_4:15 And you Philippians yourselves know that in the early days of my work spreading the Good News, when I left Macedonia, not a single congregation shared with me in the matter of giving and receiving " only you.
Col_1:23 provided, of course, that you continue in your trusting, grounded and steady, and don't let yourselves be moved away from the hope offered in the Good News you heard. This is the Good News that has been proclaimed in all creation under heaven; and I, Sha'ul, have become a servant of it.
Col_1:25 I became a servant of the Good News because God gave me this work to do for your benefit. The work is to make fully known the message from God,
1Th_1:5 that the Good News we brought did not become for you a matter only of words, but also one of power, the Ruach HaKodesh and total conviction " just as you know how we lived for your sakes when we were with you.
1Th_2:2 On the contrary, although we had already suffered and been outraged in Philippi, as you know, we had the courage, united with our God, to tell you the Good News even under great pressure.
1Th_3:2 and sent Timothy, our brother and God's fellow worker for the Good News of the Messiah, to make you solid and encourage you in your trust;
2Th_1:8 in a fiery flame. Then he will punish those who don't know God, that is, those who don't listen to the Good News of our Lord Yeshua and obey it.
1Ti_1:11 that accords with the Good News of the glorious and blessed God. This Good News was entrusted to me;
2Ti_1:8 So don't be ashamed of bearing testimony to our Lord or to me, his prisoner. On the contrary, accept your share in suffering disgrace for the sake of the Good News. God will give you the strength for it,
2Ti_1:10 but made it public only now through the appearing of our Deliverer, the Messiah Yeshua, who abolished death and, through the Good News, revealed life and immortality.
2Ti_2:8 Remember Yeshua the Messiah, who was raised from the dead, who was a descendant of David. This is the Good News I proclaim,
2Ti_4:5 But you, remain steady in every situation, endure suffering, do the work that a proclaimer of the Good News should, and do everything your service to God requires.
Phm_1:13 I would dearly have loved to keep him with me, in order for him to serve me in your place while I am in prison because of the Good News.
Heb_4:6 Therefore, since it still remains for some to enter it, and those who received the Good News earlier did not enter,
1Pe_1:12 It was revealed to them that their service when they spoke about these things was not for their own benefit, but for yours. And these same things have now been proclaimed to you by those who communicated the Good News to you through the Ruach HaKodesh sent from heaven. Even angels long to look into these things!
1Pe_1:25 but the Word of Adonai lasts forever. Moreover, this Word is the Good News which has been proclaimed to you.
Rev_10:7 on the contrary, in the days of the sound from the seventh angel when he sounds his shofar, the hidden plan of God will be brought to completion, the Good News as he proclaimed it to his servants the prophets."

[JehovahsWitness]

[Replying to post 134 by TripleZ]

Well most of us have a bible and I think they all contain the book of Corinthians.

Jesus told his disciples to "teach" not just "read", which is why JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES make it our mission to explain scriptures rather than merely quote them.


JW

[Checkpoint]

[Replying to post 134 by TripleZ]

Well most of us have a bible and I think they all contain the book of Corinthians.

Jesus told his disciples to "teach" not just "read", which is why JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES make it our mission to explain scriptures rather than merely quote them.


JW

That is good, but can also be problematic.

As is, and as can be, merely quoting scripture.

The existence of this debate site, and what is shared here, illustrates how often we draw different conclusions.

It is quite a "buyer beware" environment.

[JehovahsWitness]

[Replying to post 136 by Checkpoint]

Well, all I can say in reply to your point is:

Matthew 28
After the Sabbath, when it was growing light on the first day of the week, Mary Magda-lene and the other Mary+ came to view the grave.+

2 And look! a great earthquake had taken place, for Jehovahs angel had descended from heaven and had come and rolled away the stone, and he was sitting on it.+ 3 His appearance was like lightning, and his clothing was as white as snow.+ 4 Yes, out of their fear of him, the watchmen trembled and became as dead men.

5 But the angel said to the women: Do not be afraid, for I know that you are looking for Jesus who was executed on the stake.+ 6 He is not here, for he was raised up, just as he said.+ Come, see the place where he was lying. 7 Then go quickly and tell his disciples that he was raised up from the dead, for look! he is going ahead of you into Gali-lee.+ You will see him there. Look! I have told you.+

8 So, quickly leaving the memorial tomb, with fear and great joy, they ran to report to his disciples.+ 9 And look! Jesus met them and said: Good day! They approached and took hold of his feet and did obeisance to him. 10 Then Jesus said to them: Have no fear! Go, report to my brothers so that they may go to Gali-lee, and there they will see me.

11 While they were on their way, some of the guards+ went into the city and reported to the chief priests all the things that had happened. 12 And after these had gathered with the elders and had consulted together, they gave a considerable number of silver pieces to the soldiers 13 and said: Say, His disciples came in the night and stole him while we were sleeping.+ 14 And if this gets to the governors ears, we will explain the matter to* him and you will not need to worry. 15 So they took the silver pieces and did as they were instructed, and this story has been spread abroad among the Jews up to this very day.

and...

Exodus 25 Jehovah then said to Moses: 2 Tell the people of Israel to take up a contribution for me; from every person whose heart moves him, you are to take up my contribution.+ 3 This is the contribution that you are to accept from them: gold,+ silver,+ copper,+ 4 blue thread, purple wool,* scarlet material,* fine linen, goat hair, 5 ram skins dyed red, sealskins, acacia wood,+ 6 oil for the lamps,+ balsam for the anointing oil+ and the perfumed incense,+ 7 and onyx stones and other stones to be set in the ephod+ and the breastpiece.+ 8 They are to make a sanctuary for me, and I will reside* among them.+ 9 You are to make it, the tabernacle and all its furnishings, following exactly the pattern* that I am showing you.+

10 They are to make an ark* of acacia wood, two and a half cubits* long and a cubit and a half wide and a cubit and a half high.+ 11 Then you will overlay it with pure gold.+ Inside and outside you are to overlay it, and you will make a border* of gold all around it.+ 12 And you will cast four rings of gold for it and attach them above its four feet, with two rings on one side and two rings on the other side. 13 And you will make poles of acacia wood and overlay them with gold.+ 14 You will put the poles through the rings on the sides of the Ark in order to carry the Ark with them. 15 The poles will stay in the rings of the Ark; they are not to be removed from it.+ 16 You will place in the Ark the Testimony that I will give you.+

17 You will make a cover of pure gold, two and a half cubits long and a cubit and a half wide.+ 18 You are to make two cherubs of gold; you will make them of hammered work on the two ends of the cover.+ 19 Make the cherubs on the two ends, one cherub on each end of the cover. 20 The cherubs are to spread out their two wings upward, overshadowing the cover with their wings,+ and they will face each other. The faces of the cherubs will be turned toward the cover. 21 You will put the cover+ on the Ark, and in the Ark you will place the Testimony that I will give you. 22 I will present myself to you there and speak with you from above the cover.+ From between the two cherubs that are on the ark of the Testimony, I will make known to you all that I will command you for the Israelites.

23 You will also make a table+ of acacia wood, two cubits long and a cubit wide and a cubit and a half high.+ 24 You will overlay it with pure gold and make a golden border* around it. 25 You will make a rim around it a handbreadth* wide and a border* of gold to go around the rim. 26 You will make for it four rings of gold and place the rings on the four corners, where the four legs are attached. 27 The rings are to be close to the rim as holders for the poles for carrying the table. 28 You will make the poles of acacia wood and overlay them with gold and carry the table with them.

29 You will also make its dishes, its cups, and its pitchers and bowls from which they will pour drink offerings. You are to make them out of pure gold.+ 30 And you will put the showbread on the table before me constantly.+

31 You will make a lampstand+ of pure gold. The lampstand is to be made of hammered work. Its base, its stem, its branches, its cups, its knobs, and its blossoms will be one piece.+ 32 And six branches will extend out from the sides of the lampstand, three branches from one side and three branches from the other side. 33 Three cups shaped like almond flowers will be on the one set of branches, with knobs and blossoms alternating, and three cups shaped like almond flowers on the other set of branches, with knobs and blossoms alternating. This is how the six branches will extend out from the stem of the lampstand. 34 On the stem of the lampstand are four cups shaped like almond flowers, with its knobs and its blossoms alternating. 35 A knob will be under the first two branches that extend out of the stem and a knob under the next two branches and a knob under the next two branches, for the six branches extending out from the stem. 36 The knobs and the branches and the whole lampstand are to be one piece of pure, hammered gold.+ 37 You will make seven lamps for it, and when the lamps are lit, they will shine on the area in front of it.+ 38 Its snuffers* and its fire holders are to be of pure gold.+ 39 It should be made, along with these utensils, from a talent* of pure gold. 40 See that you make them after their pattern* that was shown to you on the mountain.+

and futhermore ...

A Revelation to John
16 And I heard a loud voice out of the sanctuary+ say to the seven angels: Go and pour out the seven bowls of the anger of God on the earth.+

2 The first one went off and poured out his bowl on the earth.+ And a hurtful and malignant ulcer+ afflicted the people who had the mark of the wild beast+ and who were worshipping its image.+

3 The second one poured out his bowl into the sea.+ And it became blood+ like that of a dead man, and every living creature* died, yes, the things in the sea.+

4 The third one poured out his bowl into the rivers and the springs* of water.+ And they became blood.+ 5 I heard the angel over the waters say: You, the One who is and who was,+ the loyal One,+ are righteous, for you have issued these judgments,+ 6 because they poured out the blood of holy ones and of prophets,+ and you have given them blood to drink;+ they deserve it.+ 7 And I heard the altar say: Yes, Jehovah* God, the Almighty,+ true and righteous are your judgments.*+

8 The fourth one poured out his bowl on the sun,+ and to the sun it was granted to scorch the people with fire. 9 And the people were scorched by the great heat, but they blasphemed the name of God, who has the authority over these plagues, and they did not repent and give glory to him.

10 The fifth one poured out his bowl on the throne of the wild beast. And its kingdom became darkened,+ and they began to gnaw their tongues because of their pain, 11 but they blasphemed the God of heaven because of their pains and their ulcers, and they did not repent of their works.

12 The sixth one poured out his bowl on the great river Eu-phrates,+ and its water was dried up+ to prepare the way for the kings+ from the rising of the sun.*

13 And I saw three unclean inspired expressions* that looked like frogs come out of the mouth of the dragon+ and out of the mouth of the wild beast and out of the mouth of the false prophet. 14 They are, in fact, expressions inspired by demons and they perform signs,+ and they go out to the kings of the entire inhabited earth, to gather them together to the war+ of the great day of God the Almighty.+

15 Look! I am coming as a thief.+ Happy is the one who stays awake+ and keeps his outer garments, so that he may not walk naked and people look upon his shamefulness.+

16 And they gathered them together to the place that is called in Hebrew Armageddon.*+

17 The seventh one poured out his bowl on the air. At this a loud voice came out of the sanctuary+ from the throne, saying: It has come to pass! 18 And there were flashes of lightning and voices and thunders, and there was a great earthquake unlike any that had occurred since men came to be on the earth,+ so extensive and so great was the earthquake. 19 The great city+ split into three parts, and the cities of the nations fell; and Babylon the Great+ was remembered before God, to give her the cup of the wine of the fury of his wrath.+ 20 Also, every island fled, and mountains were not found.+ 21 Then great hailstones, each about the weight of a talent,* fell from heaven on the people,+ and the people blasphemed God because of the plague of hail,+ for the plague was unusually great.

[dio9]

Jesus was simply teaching people how to live in the presence of the Lord , as living in the kingdom of God. He was Teaching how to live in the kingdom of God.
I had a dream last night that I was above it all , in total peace of mind. But Waking up was like a fall, falling into the reality of my day to day cares.
Jesus was teaching us how to live in that world above our cares when we are awake.

[dio9]

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[shnarkle]

[Replying to post 55 by marco]

The mention of the kingdom is a metaphor to be unfurled.

Yes, like a sail set and trimmed to catch the subtle wind, but the journey requires the ability to tack,or turn away,or as the texts say"repent".

But most of us are going our own way, while the message is that there is one way that leads to the kingdom, it's just not our own. So while the message isn't popular with most it isn't just because they're lost, they also have the most to lose. Those with nothing to lose have the most to gain They see the medium is the message in a world of pain.