Which god is God?

SallyF · Post by **SallyF** » Mon Apr 08, 2019 5:25 pm

Many, many cultures have imagined God in many, many ways. Certain cultures declare everyone else's idea of God to be false.

How do we objectively determine whose version of God is NOT false?

William · Post by **William** » Thu Apr 11, 2019 9:00 pm

[Replying to post 30 by Mithrae]

The illusion of winning is enough for some to give it a go.

SallyF · Post by **SallyF** » Sat Apr 20, 2019 10:43 pm

SallyF wrote:
How do we objectively determine whose version of God is NOT false?

Once again it is evident that we don't.

Replies here - and everywhere else I've been - indicate that believers have nothing more than human writings and their personal beliefs to offer.

My subjective determination is that ALL versions of "God" are equally false.

William · Post by **William** » Sun Apr 21, 2019 12:09 am

[Replying to post 32 by SallyF]

My subjective determination is that ALL versions of "God" are equally false.

Thanks for letting us all know Sally.

What makes a 'version of GOD' you don't appear to have said.

Personally, my subjective understanding is that the Panentheist idea of GOD is the most likely. Could you explain to the reader why you think that version of GOD is false?

dio9 · Post by **dio9** » Sun Apr 21, 2019 12:29 am

FYI God is not a concept concept holders cannot begin to get it. Concepts only separate God is one. AS Buddhist's say ; if you meet Buddha on the road , kill him. , so goes it for concepts of God. Any God we can imagine is not God. God is greater than we are able to imagine. Can a fish imagine the greatness of the ocean? Allegorically We are swimming in God.I dare say all the various versions of God people have are probably false. But make no mistake God exists.

Post by **Tcg** » Sun Apr 21, 2019 1:37 am

dio9 wrote: FYI God is not a concept concept holders cannot begin to get it. Concepts only separate God is one. AS Buddhist's say ; if you meet Buddha on the road , kill him. , so goes it for concepts of God. Any God we can imagine is not God. God is greater than we are able to imagine. Can a fish imagine the greatness of the ocean? Allegorically We are swimming in God.I dare say all the various versions of God people have are probably false. But make no mistake God exists.

Your claim:

"God is greater than we are able to imagine."

Reveals that you too are a concept holder in spite of your protest against concept holders.

There is clear evidence that concepts of God exist. When it comes to God itself, all you can offer is an unsupported claim:

"But make no mistake God exists."

Your claim supports SallyF's conclusion that:

"Replies here - and everywhere else I've been - indicate that believers have nothing more than human writings and their personal beliefs to offer."

Tcg

SallyF · Post by **SallyF** » Sun Apr 21, 2019 8:40 am

[Replying to William]

Personally, my subjective understanding is that the Panentheist idea of GOD is the most likely. Could you explain to the reader why you think that version of GOD is false?

Because it has the identical absence of evidence to every other version of God.

Zzyzx · Post by **Zzyzx** » Sun Apr 21, 2019 11:51 am

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SallyF wrote: Replies here - and everywhere else I've been - indicate that believers have nothing more than human writings and their personal beliefs to offer.

Exactly -- religions are based on human tales purporting knowledge of supernatural entities and activities -- NOTHING MORE.

Religions, like any deeply held and reinforced beliefs, can produce psychological effects on those who 'drink the cool aid'.

Ancient (or modern) writings are OPINIONS of human writers -- stories they tell. Humans are quite capable of mistakes and deceptions -- creating mythology and legends.

No verification is offered to substantiate claims of knowledge about the proposed 'supernatural'. Saying 'everyone does it' or 'many believe' is NO indication of truth.

William · Post by **William** » Sun Apr 21, 2019 1:19 pm

[Replying to post 36 by SallyF]

My subjective determination is that ALL versions of "God" are equally false.

Thanks for letting us all know Sally.

What makes a 'version of GOD' you don't appear to have said.

Personally, my subjective understanding is that the Panentheist idea of GOD is the most likely. Could you explain to the reader why you think that version of GOD is false?

Because it has the identical absence of evidence to every other version of God.

Well that is your claim but I notice with claims like this, that no evidence to back the claim is ever offered.
Perhaps you will be the first to do so?

If you like, we can go head to head on this. At least 3 non-theists members so far have made similar claims about Panentheism but have not been willing to take their opinions into head 2 head with me. Perhaps you will be the first?

SallyF · Post by **SallyF** » Sun Apr 21, 2019 4:03 pm

William wrote: [Replying to post 36 by SallyF]

My subjective determination is that ALL versions of "God" are equally false.

Thanks for letting us all know Sally.

What makes a 'version of GOD' you don't appear to have said.

Personally, my subjective understanding is that the Panentheist idea of GOD is the most likely. Could you explain to the reader why you think that version of GOD is false?

Because it has the identical absence of evidence to every other version of God.
Well that is your claim but I notice with claims like this, that no evidence to back the claim is ever offered.
Perhaps you will be the first to do so?

If you like, we can go head to head on this. At least 3 non-theists members so far have made similar claims about Panentheism but have not been willing to take their opinions into head 2 head with me. Perhaps you will be the first?

Please examine my absence of evidence in the three lines below:

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There you have it.

SallyF · Post by **SallyF** » Sun Apr 21, 2019 4:08 pm

How do we objectively determine whose version of God is NOT false?

Ain't nobody demonstrated how we do.

They ALL still look like human-imagined make-believe to this Atheist.