Peds nurse wrote:
I believe in original sin. When Adam and Eve ate of the fruit, sin entered the world through them. It is theit original sin that is the downfall of man, and which continues generation after generation.
Good morning, Peds nurse, it's been awhile eh?
I now start with accepting GOD's attributes at full face value and comparing all of theology to that revelation. I did not come to Bible study in this way...when I saw a contradiction to HIS love I had to search for a meaning and orthodoxy gave me suggestions and where orthodoxy of all the sects came together the meaning was impossible to resist. The weight of 2000 years (or 4000 for OT studies) is too much.
The two doctrines I have quit believing are reconciled with HIS goodness (loving and righteous in justice) by erudite sophistry are:
1. GOD (who would not create Satan evil)
created HIS Bride (and every other human) evil by making them humans in Adam's line when there was no reason for HIM to do this.
It is written GOD is light for a reason and that reason is that light cannot create dark! It is impossible because by its essence light destroys dark. Dark is created when someone turns against the light and blocks the light...which GOD CANNOT do as a house divided against itself cannot stand, not even by using a surrogate sinner to apply his sin to HIS creation.
People are willing to believe that GOD cannot create evil, then they allow themselves to be persuaded that in our creation GOD DID have us created evil by creating us human and by having us humans inheriting from Adam his sin.
That we are conceived or born as sinners must be explained but choosing a blasphemy is UNNECESSARY when another method of our being sinners at the moment of our being human is available...ie,
we had a pre-earth life as spirits and in that life all those would become human chose to be sinners in HIS sight, either eternally sinful or temporarily sinful.
Why choose a blasphemy over the simple fact of our creation that it was before earth was created, not on earth? Is the denial of our pre-conception existence so important?? Just because some old men made a political decision about 350 AD?
The other doctrine I have quit believing is reconciled with HIS goodness (loving and righteous in justice) by erudite sophistry is:
2. that GOD knows all things that can be known from eternity past to eternity future because this implies that
HE knew before their creation who would end in hell BUT CREATED THEM ANYWAY!!! which is a blatant rejection of the scripture that claims HE does not want anyone to die and takes no pleasure in the death of even the wicked while HE does all things for HIS pleasure. It is also not just a disregard for HIS attributes of being lovingly just but it destroys the meaning of those attributes if we accept this blasphemy!
This blasphemy is also not necessary when the bible itself tells us what is contained in what HE knows:
Acts 15:18 Known unto GOD are all HIS works from the beginning of the world. All HIS works are HIS decrees of creation.
From the beginning of the world does NOT extend into the eternal past...but why let a little thing like scripture interfere with our understanding?
IF HE created us with a free will but did NOT create the results of our free will decisons, HE would then not know them - I still get a shiver of
yikes when I write that, so strong is the orthodox blasphemy in me even after 30 years.
It is an indictment of orthodoxy that they chose to accept this pagan Greek wisdom definition of HIS omniscience that is a blasphemy just because of their idolatry of all things Greek.
My faith in the GOODNESS of GOD will not be eroded any more by the lies of orthodoxy that GOD knowingly created people to go to hell and then made, created, them to do so by making them inherit another person's sin! Not only is this AGAINST SCRIPTURE
* but it is against all reason that HE would create HIS BRIDE as evil and disgustingly corrupt (by any means) so that her best is as filthy rags just to have to heal her and then start the marriage!
*Ezekiel 18:20 The one who sins is the one who will die. The child (human)
will not share the guilt of the parent (Adam)
, nor will the parent share the guilt of the child.
Jeremiah 31:30 Instead, each will die for his own iniquity.
PCE Theology as I see it...
We had an existence with a free will in Sheol before the creation of the physical universe. Here we chose to be able to become holy or to be eternally evil in YHWH's sight. Then the physical universe was created and all sinners were sent to earth.
This theology debunks the need to base Christianity upon the blasphemy of creating us in Adam's sin.