Five Fundamentals of the (Christian) Faith

[SallyF]

FIVE FUNDAMENTALS OF THE FAITH

There are five fundamentals of the faith which are essential for Christianity, and upon which we agree:
1. The Deity of our Lord Jesus Christ (John 1:1; John 20:28; Hebrews 1:8-9).
2. The Virgin Birth (Isaiah 7:14; Matthew 1:23; Luke 1:27).
3. The Blood Atonement (Acts 20:28; Romans 3:25, 5:9; Ephesians 1:7; Hebrews 9:12-14).
4. The Bodily Resurrection (Luke 24:36-46; 1 Corinthians 15:1-4, 15:14-15).
5. The inerrancy of the scriptures themselves (Psalms 12:6-7; Romans 15:4; 2 Timothy 3:16-17; 2 Peter 1:20). [1]

And those who disagree with any of the above doctrines are not Christians at all. Rather, they are the true heretics. http://www.eaec.org/bibleanswers/five_f ... _faith.htm

As - in my view - Progressive Christians toss more and more ballast out of the hot air balloon of their diminishing faith, more and more the feet of clay upon which the edifices of Christian faith were built are exposed.

Are Progressive Christians "true heretics".

[Divine Insight]

Are Progressive Christians "true heretics".

I don't know about that. But I do know that Christians in general appear to be far more non-believers in their own Bible than atheists.

At least atheists accept what's written in the Bible. Atheists may not believe the claims made in the Bible but at least atheists accept that the Bible makes these claims.

Theists appear to reject many of the claims in the very doctrines they claim to believe in.

So in this sense atheists are stronger "believers" than theists.

At least I reject the Bible "as it is written".

Theists appear to accept the Bible "as it is NOT written".

So who's literally tossing the Bible out?

I can offer up a clue. It's not me.

[marco]

Are Progressive Christians "true heretics".

A heretic, like a witch, is somebody's flawed description of somebody else, with the occasional unfortunate result that the person is burned or drowned.

Christianity with its hydra heads is a psychological mess of ideas: death is the beginning, torture of one's son is the highest love, pain is good, pleasure is evil. Nothing is so absurd that it cannot find for itself some Scriptural justification. A heretic is best seen through the rifle sights of any particular Christian set.

[Mithrae]

Are Progressive Christians "true heretics".

If one considers it appropriate to allow one's perspective on a worldview to be defined and limited by its fundamentalist adherents, I guess they must be. I'm reminded of the old saying, "Who is more foolish, the fool or the one who follows him?"

[Tcg]

Are Progressive Christians "true heretics".

If one considers it appropriate to allow one's perspective on a worldview to be defined and limited by its fundamentalist adherents, I guess they must be. I'm reminded of the old saying, "Who is more foolish, the fool or the one who follows him?"

I am reminded of the old saying, "You can lead a horse to water, but you can't tie his shoes." Old sayings don't add much to reasoned debate.


Tcg

[Aetixintro]

[Replying to post 1 by SallyF]

Here is a much better list by one who is actually Christian:
FIVE FUNDAMENTALS OF THE FAITH + 1

There are five fundamentals of the faith which are essential for Christianity, and upon which we definitely and truthfully agree:

• 1. Our one, true God, the creator of the Universe and all in it
  2. The Trinity, God comes to us in 3 forms, God, The Holy Spirit and the 1000(s) of Jesuses, God's Righteous people soundly under God's authority
  3. The 10 Commandments in defining God's Righteous People
  4. Jesus was victorious over Death though crucifixion made him doubt his deepest conviction (threatened his sanity) and travelled back to Heaven and his Father, our Holy God
  5. The Golden Rule
  6. The belief in Hell and the Devil for those who fall to Evil

[JJ50]

[Replying to post 6 by Aetixintro]

None of which has any evidence to support it.

[2ndRateMind]

[Replying to post 1 by SallyF]

Well, I'm a progressive, liberal Christian, and I don't much care if narrow-minded fundamentalists consider me a heretic. Come judgement day, we'll find out who's right, and I'm rather looking forward to that.

Best wishes, 2RM.

[Tcg]

[Replying to post 1 by SallyF]

Here is a much better list by one who is actually Christian:
FIVE FUNDAMENTALS OF THE FAITH + 1

I'm sure those who authored this list consider themselves to actually be Christians too:

• "We are a Bible centered group of believers who desire to grow in the full knowledge of Jesus Christ without compromise to His Word."
  
  http://www.eaec.org/index.htm

Tcg

[SallyF]

[Replying to post 1 by SallyF]

Well, I'm a progressive, liberal Christian, and I don't much care if narrow-minded fundamentalists consider me a heretic. Come judgement day, we'll find out who's right, and I'm rather looking forward to that.

Best wishes, 2RM.

Goodness, is that a teensy bit of sanctimony I detect right there ?

I've come across a LOT of Christian sanctimony in my time, and I think I'm pretty good at picking it up.

EVERY Christian I come across thinks that THEY are right and every other Christian is narrow-minded.

And when I consider that progressive/liberal Christians are unbelieving themselves into an increasingly narrow corner, I have to think that it's the progressive/liberal staring down as their soon-to-be-completely-Atheist toes that is narrow-minded.

And, as an aside, a neighbour-loving Christian looking forward to Judgement Day seems to me like a very curdled cup of the milk of human kindness

It is, nonetheless, a very broad Christian sentiment

In my experience.