All the Chrildren of the World

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All the Chrildren of the World

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Jesus loves the little children, all the children of the world.

I dutifully sang this during my weekly brainwashing sessions at Sunday school. (But not always with the image of an execution device in the background.)

But in later years, I discovered that Jesus' propagandists did not actually have him say that he loved all the children of the world.

Did the Gospel propagandists just forget to mention that Jesus loves all the children of the world …?

Were Jesus and his propagandists more interested in their quest for political power than they were about foreign kiddies …?

Have later Christians had to embellish and inflate the propaganda to make the Jesus character into what they WANT him to have been …?
"God" … just whatever humans imagine it to be.

"Scripture" … just whatever humans write it to be.

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Tcg wrote:
Tart wrote: The faithlessness you have! What I know is that God is in control! Not you.. repent and humble yourself... be faithful!
You must have overlooked these two questions given that you didn't address them:
  • If God is here, why are you defending him instead of allowing him to defend himself? Does he need your help?
Care to address them?


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I don’t need to.., I have done nothing wrong by saying what I have said...

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Because I can! If God wants to do anything he can do that, but I’m a free man.., especially if I’m doing nothing wrong

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Tart wrote:
I don’t need to..,
This would be true if God hadn't turned absolutely mute for the last 2,000 years. Until he learns to speak again, he will remain dependent on his followers to speak for him.


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Because that is our job dude. That is what God called us to do

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God is mute, so we can talk, to go proclaim the truth. And if you want to put God on trail, He needs no defense.. you do!

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Tart wrote: And if you want to put God on trail, He needs no defense.. you do!
As I've already explained, it isn't God who is on trial, but rather the claims made about him. Before God could be put on trial, we'd need verifiable evidence that he exists and has actually done something. No case can be presented that he is guilty of either charge.


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Not believing isn't the same as believing not.

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Tcg wrote:
Tart wrote: And if you want to put God on trail, He needs no defense.. you do!
As I've already explained, it isn't God who is on trial, but rather the claims made about him. Before God could be put on trial, we'd need verifiable evidence that he exists and has actually done something. No case can be presented that he is guilty of either charge.


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You shall receive no evidence... You either have faith or you dont

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Tart wrote:
You shall receive no evidence... You either have faith or you dont
I agree. I couldn't possibly receive that which doesn't exist. Thanks for your agreement.


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Tcg wrote:
Tart wrote:
You shall receive no evidence... You either have faith or you dont
I agree. I couldn't possibly receive that which doesn't exist. Thanks for your agreement.


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So is this an emission of faithlessness? You have no faith?

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Tart wrote:
Tcg wrote:
Tart wrote:
You shall receive no evidence... You either have faith or you dont
I agree. I couldn't possibly receive that which doesn't exist. Thanks for your agreement.


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So is this an emission of faithlessness? You have no faith?

I am more than happy to admit my constant emission of faithlessness …!

I have absolutely NO faith in the proposition made by Christians that their Divine Leader loves all the children of the world.
"God" … just whatever humans imagine it to be.

"Scripture" … just whatever humans write it to be.

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