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Do Christians have a moral obligation to stop Islam?

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If a Christian has a personal relationship with the 'One True God', knows Jesus as Savior and Messiah and that the Bible is divine and inerrant, doesn't that Christian have a moral obligation to stop Islam? For example, would it not be a moral imperative for that Christian to take any necessary step to prevent a child from being indoctrinated as a Muslim? Would that not akin to standing by and watching as the child ingests poison?

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Do Christians have a moral obligation to stop to Islam?

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I'm not saying this because I am angry= But Islam is an abomination, and a perversion of God. God is, understandably very angry with him. God does not like anyone lying, kidnapping, and brainwashing. It hurts God to have his love for them perverted. Try to put yourself in God's shoes. What if it was your son who is being lied about in the ways Muhammad does? It would friken hurt like hell. We are becomming enlightened into God's anger by getting to know the personal relationship Muhammad had/has with God, and what the rammifications are for being Muhammad-like. It is time for them to absorb the deity of Christ and repent.

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From Post 296:
East of Eden wrote: Why does Islam say Jesus never died on the cross when we have contemporary non-Christian historical sources than confirm that He did?
JoeyKnothead wrote: Please present relevant data for the above emboldened section for examination.
http://www.agapebiblestudy.com/document ... 0Jesus.htm
Please explain how a link to a website is some means to verify the veracity of the above embolded statement.

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From Post 297:
B-O-H wrote: I'm not saying this because I am angry= But Islam is an abomination, and a perversion of God.
I challenge you to show you speak truth.

1st challenge.
B-O-H wrote: God is, understandably very angry with him. God does not like anyone lying, kidnapping, and brainwashing.
I challenge you to show you speak truth.

1st challenge.
B-O-H wrote: It hurts God to have his love for them perverted.
I challenge you to show that is a true statement.

1st challenge.

I'll leave the rest of the preaching be for now.

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JoeyKnothead wrote:From Post 296:
East of Eden wrote: Why does Islam say Jesus never died on the cross when we have contemporary non-Christian historical sources than confirm that He did?
JoeyKnothead wrote: Please present relevant data for the above emboldened section for examination.
http://www.agapebiblestudy.com/document ... 0Jesus.htm
Please explain how a link to a website is some means to verify the veracity of the above embolded statement.
More to the point, none of the sources quoted is "contemporary," which in this case would be dated to 30 CE.

I say again; comparing mutually exclusive holy books is not probative. I don't expect either the Bible or the Quran to be proven false or true today.

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JoeyKnothead wrote:From Post 296:
East of Eden wrote: Why does Islam say Jesus never died on the cross when we have contemporary non-Christian historical sources than confirm that He did?
JoeyKnothead wrote: Please present relevant data for the above emboldened section for examination.
http://www.agapebiblestudy.com/document ... 0Jesus.htm
Please explain how a link to a website is some means to verify the veracity of the above embolded statement.
I'll give you a hint.. it doesn't. The oldest source is a 4th century insertion, also known as a forgery



Not one of those sources are contemporary.
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B-O-H wrote:I'm not saying this because I am angry= But Islam is an abomination, and a perversion of God. God is, understandably very angry with him. God does not like anyone lying, kidnapping, and brainwashing. It hurts God to have his love for them perverted.
You're free to express dislike of any religion or (non-)belief system here, as long as you clearly express it as personal opinion.

The statement "Islam is an abomination and a perversion of God", presented as factual and without even a shred of evidence to back it up, however, is nothing more than a collective attack on all muslims. If nothing more, it's an uncivil, unsupported statement.

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Lucia wrote:Moderator Warning
B-O-H wrote:I'm not saying this because I am angry= But Islam is an abomination, and a perversion of God. God is, understandably very angry with him. God does not like anyone lying, kidnapping, and brainwashing. It hurts God to have his love for them perverted.
You're free to express dislike of any religion or (non-)belief system here, as long as you clearly express it as personal opinion.

The statement "Islam is an abomination and a perversion of God", presented as factual and without even a shred of evidence to back it up, however, is nothing more than a collective attack on all muslims. If nothing more, it's an uncivil, unsupported statement.

You're on the highway to probation here. If you have any intention of staying in this forum, I strongly suggest you read and abide by our rules.

lol. This is halarious. Muhammad proclaiming Jesus was a liar when he referred to himself as the son of God, and Muhammad proclaiming Jesus never suffered and died on the cross, is an abomination, and perversion of God. Muhammad teaches that Jesus was nothing but a false prophet who used smoke and mirrors to make it appear like he was crucified (a "prophet" who Allah loves!). The lies Muhammad tells is antichrist in nature. No savior. Just a lyer and deciever. That is an abomination, a lie, a perversion of who God is. Does God love a false prophet who uses deception, and lies, as Muhammad proclaims? Look in Revelations as to how God feels about the false prophet, and antichrist. The Koran was born out of lack of faith in things he should have faith in. He was like any atheistic, non-believer making up stuff to better fit his cause.

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B-O-H wrote: lol. This is halarious. Muhammad proclaiming Jesus was a liar when he referred to himself as the son of God, and Muhammad proclaiming Jesus never suffered and died on the cross, is an abomination, and perversion of God. Muhammad teaches that Jesus was nothing but a false prophet who used smoke and mirrors to make it appear like he was crucified (a "prophet" who Allah loves!). The lies Muhammad tells is antichrist in nature. No savior. Just a lyer and deciever. That is an abomination, a lie, a perversion of who God is. Does God love a false prophet who uses deception, and lies, as Muhammad proclaims? Look in Revelations as to how God feels about the false prophet, and antichrist. The Koran was born out of lack of faith in things he should have faith in. He was like any atheistic, non-believer making up stuff to better fit his cause.
Can you please stop saying the same thing over and over again?

Plus, if you keep this up and you will get banned. All you have shown is your own ignorance, and your hurting the christian apologetics.

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B-O-H wrote:
Lucia wrote:Moderator Warning
B-O-H wrote:I'm not saying this because I am angry= But Islam is an abomination, and a perversion of God. God is, understandably very angry with him. God does not like anyone lying, kidnapping, and brainwashing. It hurts God to have his love for them perverted.
You're free to express dislike of any religion or (non-)belief system here, as long as you clearly express it as personal opinion.

The statement "Islam is an abomination and a perversion of God", presented as factual and without even a shred of evidence to back it up, however, is nothing more than a collective attack on all muslims. If nothing more, it's an uncivil, unsupported statement.

You're on the highway to probation here. If you have any intention of staying in this forum, I strongly suggest you read and abide by our rules.

lol. This is halarious. Muhammad proclaiming Jesus was a liar when he referred to himself as the son of God, and Muhammad proclaiming Jesus never suffered and died on the cross, is an abomination, and perversion of God. Muhammad teaches that Jesus was nothing but a false prophet who used smoke and mirrors to make it appear like he was crucified (a "prophet" who Allah loves!). The lies Muhammad tells is antichrist in nature. No savior. Just a lyer and deciever. That is an abomination, a lie, a perversion of who God is. Does God love a false prophet who uses deception, and lies, as Muhammad proclaims? Look in Revelations as to how God feels about the false prophet, and antichrist. The Koran was born out of lack of faith in things he should have faith in. He was like any atheistic, non-believer making up stuff to better fit his cause.

All you have to do from there is, put yourself in God's shoes. What if you had a son that was tortured, beaten, stabbed, nailed to a cross, and left for dead. And some years later, have a preacher teaching everyone that your son was a liar and never suffered. Muhammad had NO compassion for Jesus, or anyone who cared about him. It was written out of a complete lack of compassion. How do you think that makes God feel? What does the NT say about the false prophet. Look into it, it suggests God's pretty pissed, and I don't blame him.

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B-O-H wrote:
B-O-H wrote: lol. This is halarious. Muhammad proclaiming Jesus was a liar when he referred to himself as the son of God, and Muhammad proclaiming Jesus never suffered and died on the cross, is an abomination, and perversion of God. Muhammad teaches that Jesus was nothing but a false prophet who used smoke and mirrors to make it appear like he was crucified (a "prophet" who Allah loves!). The lies Muhammad tells is antichrist in nature. No savior. Just a lyer and deciever. That is an abomination, a lie, a perversion of who God is. Does God love a false prophet who uses deception, and lies, as Muhammad proclaims? Look in Revelations as to how God feels about the false prophet, and antichrist. The Koran was born out of lack of faith in things he should have faith in. He was like any atheistic, non-believer making up stuff to better fit his cause.

All you have to do from there is, put yourself in God's shoes. What if you had a son that was tortured, beaten, stabbed, nailed to a cross, and left for dead. And some years later, have a preacher teaching everyone that your son was a liar and never suffered. Muhammad had NO compassion for Jesus, or anyone who cared about him. It was written out of a complete lack of compassion. How do you think that makes God feel? What does the NT say about the false prophet. Look into it, it suggests God's pretty pissed, and I don't blame him.
What about all the religions that believe the Jesus story is fake? What about atheists who believe the religion is as baseless and has as much proof as fairies do.

Why limit yourself to Islam? Your discriminating because your directing your hatred at one group when you should be directing it at all other groups.
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