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Putting words in god's mouth. Just the same ol' same ol'?

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  • ". . . there's a poll at the team website.

    Should the JackHammers take down the current I-80 billboard?

    56%: yes
    44%: no"

    source
So, how would you vote, and why?



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I would vote 'no'. I don't see why the freedom of speech should only apply to us Humans, because in my opinion God has rights too. If celebrities can do commercials, and priests can do commercials, why can't God do commercials?
Isn’t this enough? Just this world?
Just this beautiful, complex, wonderfully unfathomable natural world?
How does it so fail to hold our attention
That we have to diminish it with the invention
Of cheap, man-made Myths and Monsters?
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T-mash wrote:I would vote 'no'. I don't see why the freedom of speech should only apply to us Humans, because in my opinion God has rights too. If celebrities can do commercials, and priests can do commercials, why can't God do commercials?
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I'd vote "no". If Christians are allowed to go around putting up billboards with bible verses on them, or worse other messages supposedly from God, then these guys can do what they're doing.

Here are a couple I came across last year, obviously by religious folk claiming to speak on behalf of God. (And I bet most of those "yes" voters would be ok with these ones, which would of course be complete double standards).

Every time you say my name, I hear you and get hopeful - God.
You can pray to me when things are going well too - God

If it's alright for Christians to blaspheme, then why not everybody else?

Society and its morals evolve and will continue to evolve. The bible however remains the same and just requires more and more apologetics and claims of "metaphors" and "symbolism" to justify it.

Prayer is like rubbing an old bottle and hoping that a genie will pop out and grant you three wishes.

There is much about this world that is mind boggling and impressive, but I see no need whatsoever to put it down to magical super powered beings.


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I feel free speech is more important than political correctnesses.

If someone replaced the word "god" with "santa claus" or "tooth fairy" no one would have a problem.

Instead we have christains getting worked up because they are allowed to offend anyone they want but don't want anyone to offend them.

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Nilloc James wrote:I feel free speech is more important than political correctnesses.
I have to agree. The Constitution is proof that its framers did as well. Otherwise, the first amendment would related to "not offending others".

Some groups, other than Christian, have lower bars of what is considered offensive, and what is hate speech, and what is considered for burning. :shock:

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T-mash wrote:I would vote 'no'. I don't see why the freedom of speech should only apply to us Humans, because in my opinion God has rights too. If celebrities can do commercials, and priests can do commercials, why can't God do commercials?
I don't believe in a God, but assuming there is a God, and he had free speech, surely he would actually have to have said something to be quoted. And God probably wouldn't have done a commercial to promote a baseball team.

You couldn't quote someone like Barak O' Bama without their permission, and i highly doubt they had God's permission.

I would have to vote yes, because this is a blatant case of false advertisement, in my opinion.

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manectric249 wrote:
T-mash wrote:I would vote 'no'. I don't see why the freedom of speech should only apply to us Humans, because in my opinion God has rights too. If celebrities can do commercials, and priests can do commercials, why can't God do commercials?
I don't believe in a God, but assuming there is a God, and he had free speech, surely he would actually have to have said something to be quoted. And God probably wouldn't have done a commercial to promote a baseball team.

You couldn't quote someone like Barak O' Bama without their permission, and i highly doubt they had God's permission.

I would have to vote yes, because this is a blatant case of false advertisement, in my opinion.
Is every commercial with santa clause false advertising as well?

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fair point. to a certain extent i agree with you

but the belief in god is MUCH stronger than in the belief of Santa.
only children believe in Santa, and they dont usually have any 'purchasing power'
so basically, commercials with santa claus will always be smart, and somewhat humerous because we know he doesnt exist, however with god it is a very different story. your either offending people, or blatantly lying to them.

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If only people could dismiss humour.. alas, it always needs to be taken way out of context.

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