Surah 4:157 - And for claiming that they killed the Messiah, Jesus, son of Mary, the messenger of GOD. In fact, they never killed him, they never crucified him - they were made to think that they did. All factions who are disputing in this matter are full of doubt concerning this issue. They possess no knowledge; they only conjecture. For certain, they never killed him.
Is this true of Muslims? Jesus was not crucified?
Islam says Jesus was not crucified
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The star is clearly mentioned there, if you can;t see, its ur mistake, every1 have authenticated it. your comments is of no use, im sorrry:)Apple Pie wrote:The Koran never once says that it was revealed to anyone named "Muhammad".TrueReligion wrote: Quran disagrees with Islam, are u in your sense? Quran is revealed to Muhammad, who was muslim, and it is agaist Islam?
Do you know any history, go and find out, to whom Quran was revealed.
You have already been asked to show the exact location in the Koran, for any such statement, and have repeatedly failed each and every time....
Told you, no proof will be provided to you unless you provide the answers of questions askedd from you
We use the original Arabic...is this source not authentic enough?Y you have the habbit of quoting wrong translation of Quran again and again , if you dont know, ask some1, and use authentic source, you never put your source, andd keep on putting statements totaly against Quran, I told you it will be reported as an offense now.
No, thats not the translation you are showing, without authenticated source, your all pproofs are not valid
How many stars do you know that are sworn by and then worshiped as deity?Chapter-86 describe the creation of men, and the star. if you dont know arabic, thn quote anymmore Quran in wrong way.
Read it again the detail which I posted for chapter 86, if you dont know arabic, plz dont translate wrong.
Now...either this is no ordinary star, or your book of faith is rooted in the worship of celestial bodies.
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Show us in the Arabic...TrueReligion wrote:The star is clearly mentioned there, if you can;t see, its ur mistake, every1 have authenticated it. your comments is of no use, im sorrry:)Apple Pie wrote:The Koran never once says that it was revealed to anyone named "Muhammad".TrueReligion wrote: Quran disagrees with Islam, are u in your sense? Quran is revealed to Muhammad, who was muslim, and it is agaist Islam?
Do you know any history, go and find out, to whom Quran was revealed.
You have already been asked to show the exact location in the Koran, for any such statement, and have repeatedly failed each and every time....
Told you, no proof will be provided to you unless you provide the answers of questions askedd from you
We use the original Arabic...is this source not authentic enough?Y you have the habbit of quoting wrong translation of Quran again and again , if you dont know, ask some1, and use authentic source, you never put your source, andd keep on putting statements totaly against Quran, I told you it will be reported as an offense now.
No, thats not the translation you are showing, without authenticated source, your all pproofs are not valid
How many stars do you know that are sworn by and then worshiped as deity?Chapter-86 describe the creation of men, and the star. if you dont know arabic, thn quote anymmore Quran in wrong way.
Read it again the detail which I posted for chapter 86, if you dont know arabic, plz dont translate wrong.
Now...either this is no ordinary star, or your book of faith is rooted in the worship of celestial bodies.
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1st you have to give complete answer of the link provided to you, it completly shows that Jesus was never cruxified, thn any answer willl be given to you.Apple Pie wrote:Show us in the Arabic...TrueReligion wrote:The star is clearly mentioned there, if you can;t see, its ur mistake, every1 have authenticated it. your comments is of no use, im sorrry:)Apple Pie wrote:The Koran never once says that it was revealed to anyone named "Muhammad".TrueReligion wrote: Quran disagrees with Islam, are u in your sense? Quran is revealed to Muhammad, who was muslim, and it is agaist Islam?
Do you know any history, go and find out, to whom Quran was revealed.
You have already been asked to show the exact location in the Koran, for any such statement, and have repeatedly failed each and every time....
Told you, no proof will be provided to you unless you provide the answers of questions askedd from you
We use the original Arabic...is this source not authentic enough?Y you have the habbit of quoting wrong translation of Quran again and again , if you dont know, ask some1, and use authentic source, you never put your source, andd keep on putting statements totaly against Quran, I told you it will be reported as an offense now.
No, thats not the translation you are showing, without authenticated source, your all pproofs are not valid
How many stars do you know that are sworn by and then worshiped as deity?Chapter-86 describe the creation of men, and the star. if you dont know arabic, thn quote anymmore Quran in wrong way.
Read it again the detail which I posted for chapter 86, if you dont know arabic, plz dont translate wrong.
Now...either this is no ordinary star, or your book of faith is rooted in the worship of celestial bodies.
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Your link does not refute Jesus' crucifixion, brother.TrueReligion wrote: 1st you have to give complete answer of the link provided to you, it completly shows that Jesus was never cruxified, thn any answer willl be given to you.
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Read it complete please, I can;t post it here its very huge amount of text.Apple Pie wrote:Your link does not refute Jesus' crucifixion, brother.TrueReligion wrote: 1st you have to give complete answer of the link provided to you, it completly shows that Jesus was never cruxified, thn any answer willl be given to you.
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I guess that is required from you, because as per you Jesus was cruxified, and I posted he was'nt, so its ur turn,Apple Pie wrote:Quote the most salient point that you feel supports your assertion.TrueReligion wrote: Read it complete please, I can;t post it here its very huge amount of text.
and please dont role the dice over to me, you have to answer atleast 1 time.
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Its your assertion that something contained within your googled link refutes Jesus' crucifixion.TrueReligion wrote:I guess that is required from you, because as per you Jesus was cruxified, and I posted he was'nt, so its ur turn,Apple Pie wrote:Quote the most salient point that you feel supports your assertion.TrueReligion wrote: Read it complete please, I can;t post it here its very huge amount of text.
and please dont role the dice over to me, you have to answer atleast 1 time.
Thus, where is it?
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Y everything seems to you as googled link? u think people here dont have knowledge of their own? or you just know how to run from questions without answering them?Apple Pie wrote:Its your assertion that something contained within your googled link refutes Jesus' crucifixion.TrueReligion wrote:I guess that is required from you, because as per you Jesus was cruxified, and I posted he was'nt, so its ur turn,Apple Pie wrote:Quote the most salient point that you feel supports your assertion.TrueReligion wrote: Read it complete please, I can;t post it here its very huge amount of text.
and please dont role the dice over to me, you have to answer atleast 1 time.
Thus, where is it?
http://www.jamaat.net/crux/Crux1-5.html
Waiting for your answer now.
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TrueReligion wrote:Y everything seems to you as googled link? u think people here dont have knowledge of their own? or you just know how to run from questions without answering them?Apple Pie wrote:Its your assertion that something contained within your googled link refutes Jesus' crucifixion.TrueReligion wrote:I guess that is required from you, because as per you Jesus was cruxified, and I posted he was'nt, so its ur turn,Apple Pie wrote:Quote the most salient point that you feel supports your assertion.TrueReligion wrote: Read it complete please, I can;t post it here its very huge amount of text.
and please dont role the dice over to me, you have to answer atleast 1 time.
Thus, where is it?
http://www.jamaat.net/crux/Crux1-5.html
Waiting for your answer now.
4.157....again?!
We have already been over this one-hit wonder ayah, brother....and it is not a denial of Jesus' cricifixion until death upon the cross. If it was, then it would contradict other passages in the Koran.
Basing an entire theology upon one, single, solitary verse is just plain poor theology, brother...
