Is Allah in the Quran the same God of the Bible?

Argue for and against religions and philosophies which are not Christian

Moderator: Moderators

Post Reply
User avatar
Burninglight
Guru
Posts: 1202
Joined: Tue Mar 20, 2012 12:40 am

Is Allah in the Quran the same God of the Bible?

Post #1

Post by Burninglight »

Allah means God in Arabic or the god as some contend. Muslims say yes he is the same god and some Christians say yes he is as well, but many Christians say "no He is not." The God in the Bible has a son, but Allah says he doesn't. Muslims say Christians associate partners unto God, but Christians say that is not true and that they are monotheistic or that God is one.

Muslims do not believe when Christians say they are not polytheistic. Christians say Muhammad isn't a confirmed Biblical prophet, but Muslims say he is. Muslims say the Bible has been corrupted, but Christians say the Quran is corrupted.

The Bible says Ishmael is no prophet. Muslims say he is. Jesus said he is "The Way, the Truth, and the Life." Muslims say he was that for his time and for the Jews he came only. Christians say that Jesus is the truth for all time and all people and that Jesus never said I show the truth or the way.

The Quran says that Jesus is not the word of God made flesh, but the Bible says he is. Muslims don't have eternal security, but Christians say we can know now from the Bible if we will be saved and know now if we have eternal life because God assures us. Christians believe that Jesus is Deity, but Muslim so no he is just a prophet or messenger.

Any of these topics on this thread are welcome and open for discussion and or debate!

User avatar
Falling Light 101
Apprentice
Posts: 131
Joined: Thu Jun 08, 2017 3:16 pm

Still Reading all these Posts. Hi There.

Post #111

Post by Falling Light 101 »

............... I do know that On MAY 1985 -

POPE John Paul II - repeated ROMES DECLARATION TO AUDIENCE OF THOUSANDS.
THE POPE said: “CATHOLICS, Muslims, WE have MANY THINGS IN COMMON as BELIEVERS and as human beings...WE BELIEVE IN THE SAME GOD.

http://www.letusreason.org/RC25.htm

& http://focusonjerusalem.com/tiesthatbind.html

While – Also The Pope kisses and bows to The Quran.

http://images.google.com/images?q=photo ... a=N&tab=wi

I also know that Roman Catholics are SOLA QURAN regarding The Prophecies, Revelations, Messages and Faith of Their FATHER Mohammud.

I do not believe that Islam is an - ABRAHAMIC Religion.

The Fact is - There is not a single ONE proof on the planet proving that islam eXisted BEFORE the 7th CENTURY... nothing. Not even a scratch on a cave wall eXists PROOVING a single soul on the planet was A MUSLIM,before the 7 Th. century.

Roman Catholics follow these REVELATIONS and Prophecies of Mohammad. The Prophecies and Revelations He received - That He was a Descendant of Ishmael, AND That Ishmaelites were a still a LIVING group of people alive at the time of Mohammud.

The prophecies and Revelations that The Ishmaelites were Given an Abrahamic Covenant by God.

The prophecies and Revelations that Allah was the God of Abraham. All of these Catholic Teachings are proven wrong by the Bible and Also by basic World History. FACTS.

Mohammad is a Spiritual Father of This Roman Catholic Faith.

Mohammad is a Prophet and a Revelator unto the Roman Catholic Church.

And A Spiritual Father. Roman Catholics are SIMPLY - SOLA QURAN.

The Pope and Roman Catholic Followers Demand that Mohammads Prophecies are Truth. They DEMAND that these REVELATIONS that He received are Truth.

The Popes and Catholic Followers write Books, Articles and make Public Statements before Millions of People - Demanding that The Bible is Equal to the Quran and that Muslims are Serving the Same God as Abraham. And Also demanding that Mohammad was a Descendant of Ishmael -

AND Catholics Push the PROPHECY and REVELATION of Mohammad - that Ishmaelites are still a LIVING Group of people , STILL alive eXiting today.

But the Bible tells up CLEARLY that all of these Revelations and Quranic Prophecies are not TRUE. Roman Catholics are SOLA QURAN - Concerning these Teachings, Prophecies and Revelations of Mohammad and His Quran.

This really confuses people , Deceiving and Tricking People into the Deceptions, Revelations and Prophecies of Mohammad.

If a Muslim Terrorist commits Terrorism and Kills thousands of People, Then that Must mean that Abraham is just a Little UPSET TODAY.

If A Muslim jihadi Terrorist kills someone or blows up a building or crowd of people. Then That Means that Abraham is Simply Having a Bad Day Today.


While the Pope Condemns Israel - when She Defends Herself. The Pope's had no Problem in themselves defending their own Property and own Cities, against Muslims. Making War and Killing and Slaughtering Muslims, by the thousands. Today the Roman Catholics are pushing the IDEA that Muslims who are still on the WARPATH - can Be reasoned with by talking. but that never worked in the Past , For Roman Catholic Crusaders.

The Lie that Muslims are Following Abraham is a Catholic Teaching and DEMAND - that was REVEALED and PROPHECIED by Father Mohammad. And Goes against the BIBLE. In every single way.

The Pope and Roman Catholics are Pushing the REVELATIONS and PROPHECIES of their Father Mohammad and it is Causing people to be deceived and the bible has already Cleared all of this up. Could it be - That Catholics and many Protestants - Simply have no scriptures for their Faith. ?

User avatar
marco
Savant
Posts: 12314
Joined: Sun Dec 20, 2015 3:15 pm
Location: Scotland
Been thanked: 2 times

Re: Still Reading all these Posts. Hi There.

Post #112

Post by marco »

Falling Light 101 wrote:
Roman Catholics follow these REVELATIONS and Prophecies of Mohammad.

Then they are not following Roman Catholicism. The two religions are mutually irreconcilable. Ecumenism may attempt to build bridges, but that's folk trying to be nice. This generosity was shown, in 2016, by the 85-year-old French priest Jacques Hamel who was murdered by some Islamists. Islam does not accept the Trinity. Muhammad's prophecies, such as they are, relate to Islamic expansion at Christianity's expense.

Falling Light 101 wrote:

Mohammad is a Spiritual Father of This Roman Catholic Faith.

Mohammad is a Prophet and a Revelator unto the Roman Catholic Church.
Islam sprang up in the 7th century in opposition to Catholicism. While Jesus is regarded as a prophet in Islam, Muhammad is seen as a false prophet for if his message is true, Catholicism is false. Islam is so supportive of Catholicism that in some theocracies the Bible is banned.

Abraham is revered in Islam; Jews, who invented Abraham, are generally detested.

mubasher1984
Newbie
Posts: 9
Joined: Mon Jul 31, 2017 7:31 am

Post #113

Post by mubasher1984 »

Allah of Quran, God of Bible, God of Jews, and other true religions of world is the same God.

Infact, God made human spiritual evolution in phases, just like physical evolution was done in phases. Therefore, he first taught some teachings to Adam, then taught some more to next prophet, then some more to next. Till Prophet Moses, Jesus and Muhammad came in the last. According to Jews, Moses is the last prophet, according to Christians, Jesus is last, and acoording to Muslims, Muhammad (PBUH) is the last prophet.

For Muslims, all prophets before Muhammad (PBUH) were true prophets of God. And Bible itself prophecies a prophet after Jesus, named "Ahmad". That's why, Salman of Persia, came to Madina in search of a prophet, told by christian priests of that time.

User avatar
marco
Savant
Posts: 12314
Joined: Sun Dec 20, 2015 3:15 pm
Location: Scotland
Been thanked: 2 times

Post #114

Post by marco »

mubasher1984 wrote: Allah of Quran, God of Bible, God of Jews, and other true religions of world is the same God.

Infact, God made human spiritual evolution in phases, just like physical evolution was done in phases. Therefore, he first taught some teachings to Adam, then taught some more to next prophet, then some more to next. Till Prophet Moses, Jesus and Muhammad came in the last. According to Jews, Moses is the last prophet, according to Christians, Jesus is last, and acoording to Muslims, Muhammad (PBUH) is the last prophet.


For Muslims, all prophets before Muhammad (PBUH) were true prophets of God. And Bible itself prophecies a prophet after Jesus, named "Ahmad". That's why, Salman of Persia, came to Madina in search of a prophet, told by christian priests of that time.
This is simple dogma, unverified by history. We do know Muhammad lived in the 7th century and was engaged in trading and wars and he married several times. It is unlikely he had any meetings with divine people. It is flattering to Muslims to have him as "last prophet" but there is no reasonable justification for saying this. It certainly provided Muhammad with political power and then military power which made all the difference to the spread of his views. Christianity got a similar boost from Constantine and then later from Spain.

Post Reply