Submitted for your consideration:
I believe the 666 connotation represents three things that are aptly described by Revelations:
Money is easily described as it.
Media and communications (wearable cell phones anyone?) can also be something inferred from Revelation's description of the Mark.
and some third 6.
Six is a number of the the beast in actuality. Just as the five-pointed star represents magic from the sacrifice of man, 1=head, 2,3=arms 4,5 legs, so the six pointed star represent the magic from sacrifice of beasts: as above 1-5, and a sixth point from the tail of animals.
Are there any expansions on these assertions being further correct or incorrect? and from this, is it possible to discover the representation of the final "6?"
Could this also thus mean, a third sacrifice?
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InHIsHands wrote:NO...that is not what 666 represents.Willum wrote: Submitted for your consideration:
I believe the 666 connotation represents three things that are aptly described by Revelations:
Money is easily described as it.
Media and communications (wearable cell phones anyone?) can also be something inferred from Revelation's description of the Mark.
and some third 6.
Six is a number of the the beast in actuality. Just as the five-pointed star represents magic from the sacrifice of man, 1=head, 2,3=arms 4,5 legs, so the six pointed star represent the magic from sacrifice of beasts: as above 1-5, and a sixth point from the tail of animals.
Are there any expansions on these assertions being further correct or incorrect? and from this, is it possible to discover the representation of the final "6?"
Could this also thus mean, a third sacrifice?

Then please, tell us what you think 666 DOES represent. Do not simply disagree using a "one liner". And this is a warning and not a comment because "one-liners" seem to be a pattern for you.
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Unregenerated man. Do you have a right to somehow force another to either partake in or be removed from a "discussion"? If so, it is no longer a discussion at all...but a forced, controlled...I don't know what.Elijah John wrote:InHIsHands wrote:NO...that is not what 666 represents.Willum wrote: Submitted for your consideration:
I believe the 666 connotation represents three things that are aptly described by Revelations:
Money is easily described as it.
Media and communications (wearable cell phones anyone?) can also be something inferred from Revelation's description of the Mark.
and some third 6.
Six is a number of the the beast in actuality. Just as the five-pointed star represents magic from the sacrifice of man, 1=head, 2,3=arms 4,5 legs, so the six pointed star represent the magic from sacrifice of beasts: as above 1-5, and a sixth point from the tail of animals.
Are there any expansions on these assertions being further correct or incorrect? and from this, is it possible to discover the representation of the final "6?"
Could this also thus mean, a third sacrifice?Moderator Warning
Then please, tell us what you think 666 DOES represent. Do not simply disagree using a "one liner". And this is a warning and not a comment because "one-liners" seem to be a pattern for you.
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[Replying to post 32 by InHIsHands]
Man is composed of body, soul and spirit. If the man hasn't been reborn/regenerated, passed through the "7TH day", circumcised and marked and set apart to GOD by HIS SPIRIT...he will be open to receiving the wrong mark from the "Great Imitator" who can't fully manifest himself in one...but will reveal himself in peicemeal: First the false prophet who will offer soothing words which will appeal to worldly man, and then the false christ who will ooh and ahh many who will accept this "false savior" because they will be looking for a temporal healing for what will come upon the earth in the last days.
Man is composed of body, soul and spirit. If the man hasn't been reborn/regenerated, passed through the "7TH day", circumcised and marked and set apart to GOD by HIS SPIRIT...he will be open to receiving the wrong mark from the "Great Imitator" who can't fully manifest himself in one...but will reveal himself in peicemeal: First the false prophet who will offer soothing words which will appeal to worldly man, and then the false christ who will ooh and ahh many who will accept this "false savior" because they will be looking for a temporal healing for what will come upon the earth in the last days.
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InHIsHands wrote:Unregenerated man. Do you have a right to somehow force another to either partake in or be removed from a "discussion"? If so, it is no longer a discussion at all...but a forced, controlled...I don't know what.Elijah John wrote:InHIsHands wrote:NO...that is not what 666 represents.Willum wrote: Submitted for your consideration:
I believe the 666 connotation represents three things that are aptly described by Revelations:
Money is easily described as it.
Media and communications (wearable cell phones anyone?) can also be something inferred from Revelation's description of the Mark.
and some third 6.
Six is a number of the the beast in actuality. Just as the five-pointed star represents magic from the sacrifice of man, 1=head, 2,3=arms 4,5 legs, so the six pointed star represent the magic from sacrifice of beasts: as above 1-5, and a sixth point from the tail of animals.
Are there any expansions on these assertions being further correct or incorrect? and from this, is it possible to discover the representation of the final "6?"
Could this also thus mean, a third sacrifice?Moderator Warning
Then please, tell us what you think 666 DOES represent. Do not simply disagree using a "one liner". And this is a warning and not a comment because "one-liners" seem to be a pattern for you.
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dianaiad wrote:InHIsHands wrote:Unregenerated man. Do you have a right to somehow force another to either partake in or be removed from a "discussion"? If so, it is no longer a discussion at all...but a forced, controlled...I don't know what.Elijah John wrote:InHIsHands wrote:NO...that is not what 666 represents.Willum wrote: Submitted for your consideration:
I believe the 666 connotation represents three things that are aptly described by Revelations:
Money is easily described as it.
Media and communications (wearable cell phones anyone?) can also be something inferred from Revelation's description of the Mark.
and some third 6.
Six is a number of the the beast in actuality. Just as the five-pointed star represents magic from the sacrifice of man, 1=head, 2,3=arms 4,5 legs, so the six pointed star represent the magic from sacrifice of beasts: as above 1-5, and a sixth point from the tail of animals.
Are there any expansions on these assertions being further correct or incorrect? and from this, is it possible to discover the representation of the final "6?"
Could this also thus mean, a third sacrifice?Moderator Warning
Then please, tell us what you think 666 DOES represent. Do not simply disagree using a "one liner". And this is a warning and not a comment because "one-liners" seem to be a pattern for you.
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I am not interested in addressing anything that has nothing to do with the topic thread. I am really not the one derailing the topic at all...
And if you haven't followed my previous posts which were not "one liners" you have no right to address anything or make assumptions of me that are not true.
You did this on the thread with my discussion with tired of the nonsense, and now you are doing it here on this thread.
It appears to me that you are "following me" because your own ears do not like what your own ears are hearing.
A debate, a discussion, involves two points of view...those for...and those against.
That means each of the parties will hear what they do not agree with, and do not really like. But the one who has the other thrown out of the "discussion" does not make that one right...it only means that they have used their control in a biased manner to fit their own relative and biased ears ...
And that really isn't moderating.
I am allowed to say no, that is NOT what 666 means. If you want to hear why, then yes, you are free to ask for me to explain...but if I choose to say no, and leave it at that, that does NOT mean that I am being difficult...no one is controlling the other person from asking...
Did I stop anyone from asking me to explain my point?
No, I didn't...and if one asks me...believe me, I will respond with more than a one liner...
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InHIsHands wrote:dianaiad wrote:InHIsHands wrote:Unregenerated man. Do you have a right to somehow force another to either partake in or be removed from a "discussion"? If so, it is no longer a discussion at all...but a forced, controlled...I don't know what.Elijah John wrote:InHIsHands wrote:NO...that is not what 666 represents.Willum wrote: Submitted for your consideration:
I believe the 666 connotation represents three things that are aptly described by Revelations:
Money is easily described as it.
Media and communications (wearable cell phones anyone?) can also be something inferred from Revelation's description of the Mark.
and some third 6.
Six is a number of the the beast in actuality. Just as the five-pointed star represents magic from the sacrifice of man, 1=head, 2,3=arms 4,5 legs, so the six pointed star represent the magic from sacrifice of beasts: as above 1-5, and a sixth point from the tail of animals.
Are there any expansions on these assertions being further correct or incorrect? and from this, is it possible to discover the representation of the final "6?"
Could this also thus mean, a third sacrifice?Moderator Warning
Then please, tell us what you think 666 DOES represent. Do not simply disagree using a "one liner". And this is a warning and not a comment because "one-liners" seem to be a pattern for you.
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I am not interested in addressing anything that has nothing to do with the topic thread. I am really not the one derailing the topic at all...
And if you haven't followed my previous posts which were not "one liners" you have no right to address anything or make assumptions of me that are not true.
You did this on the thread with my discussion with tired of the nonsense, and now you are doing it here on this thread.
It appears to me that you are "following me" because your own ears do not like what your own ears are hearing.
A debate, a discussion, involves two points of view...those for...and those against.
That means each of the parties will hear what they do not agree with, and do not really like. But the one who has the other thrown out of the "discussion" does not make that one right...it only means that they have used their control in a biased manner to fit their own relative and biased ears and biased position ...
And that really isn't moderating.
I am allowed to say no, that is NOT what 666 means. If you want to hear why, then yes, you are free to ask for me to explain...but if I choose to say no, and leave it at that, that does NOT mean that I am being difficult...no one is controlling the other person from asking what they mean...
Did I stop anyone from asking me to explain my point?
No, I didn't...and if one asks me...believe me, I will respond with more than a one liner...
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Re: Mark of the beast
Post #37[Replying to post 1 by Willum]
Sadly, most people have a very erroneous view of the Beast and 666. It's not mysterious; God wants us to understand what it's all about.
Don't people realize that the Beast is NOT "the Antichrist"? The word "antichrist" is nowhere to be found in Revelation. The only place it is mentioned is in John's letters: I John 2:18,22; I John 4:3; and 2 John 7. People have made up a whole fabulous story out of these very few references, and the story they make up is nonsensical. John says that "antichrist" refers to a spiritual attitude, one that denies Christ and his Father. He says that that attitude prevailed even in his day. He says: "Even now there have come to be MANY antichrists." (I John 2:18) So, we wonder, where did the idea of "the" Antichrist come from?
The Beast of Revelation pictures the world-wide governmental systems that exist now, and have existed since Nimrod. Neither the "antichrist" nor the "Beast" are individuals. The governments---the Beast---fall so far short of perfection (the number for perfection is 7) that they are given the rating of 666. VERY imperfect. That is all that number means. The Beast falls short of perfection, and it has proven to be inept since mankind decided to rule himself.
Revelation says that 666 is the "number of a man." That merely means that it is not attached to the spirit realm....it refers to the realm of humans.
It is very simple and sets us free of any fear that some demonically powerful individual is going to show up and scare the pants off everybody. Antichrist is as old as Christianity and is not a single person. It is not the Beast, which is mankind's governmental arrangements. 666 = imperfect emphasized three times.
Sadly, most people have a very erroneous view of the Beast and 666. It's not mysterious; God wants us to understand what it's all about.
Don't people realize that the Beast is NOT "the Antichrist"? The word "antichrist" is nowhere to be found in Revelation. The only place it is mentioned is in John's letters: I John 2:18,22; I John 4:3; and 2 John 7. People have made up a whole fabulous story out of these very few references, and the story they make up is nonsensical. John says that "antichrist" refers to a spiritual attitude, one that denies Christ and his Father. He says that that attitude prevailed even in his day. He says: "Even now there have come to be MANY antichrists." (I John 2:18) So, we wonder, where did the idea of "the" Antichrist come from?
The Beast of Revelation pictures the world-wide governmental systems that exist now, and have existed since Nimrod. Neither the "antichrist" nor the "Beast" are individuals. The governments---the Beast---fall so far short of perfection (the number for perfection is 7) that they are given the rating of 666. VERY imperfect. That is all that number means. The Beast falls short of perfection, and it has proven to be inept since mankind decided to rule himself.
Revelation says that 666 is the "number of a man." That merely means that it is not attached to the spirit realm....it refers to the realm of humans.
It is very simple and sets us free of any fear that some demonically powerful individual is going to show up and scare the pants off everybody. Antichrist is as old as Christianity and is not a single person. It is not the Beast, which is mankind's governmental arrangements. 666 = imperfect emphasized three times.
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Re: Mark of the beast
Post #38In the bible the number seven is often used to represent completeness. So "six" would fall short of completion or perfection. Repeating something three times is a poetic tool used in scripture to give emphasis to a point. So "six" x 3 would signify extreme imperfection.Willum wrote:
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This is true. The mark of the "beast" just means that a person supports the beast. The beast is the governments of the world, so the mark will show up as supporting the present worldly situation and looking to this "beast" for the only hope for mankind, much as the pope (John Paul II) said of the United Nations years ago. If we consistently cling to man-made solutions and ignore God's Kingdom by Christ that is coming (Matt.6:9,10), we can be said to have the "mark of the beast."tam wrote:
Having the mark of the beast just means that one belongs to the beast.
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666 merely means that mankind's governments fall VERY short of perfection (7).
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I totally agree, there are so many religions teaching that it's a literal marking with a microchip, but the book of revelation is clearly symbolic, so the mark wouldn't necessarily be a mark (or a chip) one can literally see on someone's body.
I totally agree, there are so many religions teaching that it's a literal marking with a microchip, but the book of revelation is clearly symbolic, so the mark wouldn't necessarily be a mark (or a chip) one can literally see on someone's body.
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"For if we live, we live to Jehovah, and if we die, we die to Jehovah. So both if we live and if we die, we belong to Jehovah" - Romans 14:8