Paradise on Earth

[onewithhim]

When I learned that the Bible speaks of a restored Garden of Eden and the restoration of mankind to the perfection and endless life that Adam forfeited, I was thrilled. Who doesn't want to keep living on this beautiful earth, with our loved ones, and being able to do all the things we love to do---endlessly?

If God said to you today, "When do you want to die?" would you say "now!!"? I don't think very many people would say that.

We CAN live forever here on Earth. The Bible tells us that we can.

Matthew 5:5
Psalm 37:9-11,29

[ttruscott]

Quite right. Our natural mind can not comprehend what an infinte universe might be like. That does not mean it can't be. Can universe be anything but infinite? falling off the edge of the universe would end yu up into nothing and what is that?

Please consider that the universe, our reality created by GOD, if not infinite, could explain Christ calling the end place of the wicked as the outer darkness referring to the non-created place past the edge of the finite universe. In it would exist only those beings created here who, for their self chosen eternal sinfulness, are sent there.

[ttruscott]

If this is what God has created for us on this earth, imagine the other horrors we might come across. Perhaps even greater horrors than this.

PCE contends that Earth is the only prison planet for all evil beings with a rehab centre in it for those who can be cured of their addiction to sin. Just like a penitentiary is not the place to judge the outside world, neither in the earth a good model for the rest of creation since all of the dangers, disasters and cruelty of earth are part of the prison response to the evil contained here.

[onewithhim]

If this is what God has created for us on this earth, imagine the other horrors we might come across. Perhaps even greater horrors than this.

PCE contends that Earth is the only prison planet for all evil beings with a rehab centre in it for those who can be cured of their addiction to sin. Just like a penitentiary is not the place to judge the outside world, neither in the earth a good model for the rest of creation since all of the dangers, disasters and cruelty of earth are part of the prison response to the evil contained here.

So Earth is a sort of "prison planet" that is otherwise useless? The earth is NOT a good model for the rest of creation? LOL! Apparently you are ignorant of all of the beauty and wonder of this planet.

[OnceConvinced]

[Replying to post 492 by JehovahsWitness]

Many of this stuff may keep you going for millions of years, but we're talking about eternity here. There can't be an infinite number of things to learn. The universe cannot possibly be infinite. Everything that exists is finite. Somewhere along the line you are going to have done everything you wanted to do, learnt everything there is to learn, done it over and over and over and lost all fascination of it. Maybe we could go for billions of years. But try to grasp infinity. Sooner or later you will get to the point where you will have had enough of it. You'll be begging God for death.



If this is what God has created for us on this earth, imagine the other horrors we might come across. Perhaps even greater horrors than this.

Quite right. Our natural mind can not comprehend what an infinte universe might be like. That does not mean it can't be. Can universe be anything but infinite? falling off the edge of the universe would end yu up into nothing and what is that?

Anything is possible if one is willing to use their imagination. Of course it's always more difficult to prove these things. But still, a bible verse would at least show us that the god of the bible saw the universe as infinite, but they don't even have that.

[OnceConvinced]

If this is what God has created for us on this earth, imagine the other horrors we might come across. Perhaps even greater horrors than this.

PCE contends that Earth is the only prison planet for all evil beings with a rehab centre in it for those who can be cured of their addiction to sin. Just like a penitentiary is not the place to judge the outside world, neither in the earth a good model for the rest of creation since all of the dangers, disasters and cruelty of earth are part of the prison response to the evil contained here.

So Earth is a sort of "prison planet" that is otherwise useless? The earth is NOT a good model for the rest of creation? LOL! Apparently you are ignorant of all of the beauty and wonder of this planet.

So in your mind a prison should be a hellacious place where there is no beauty and just suffering?

From what I understand, prisons in civilised countries these days have plenty of luxuries and some want to stay there rather than be released, so as soon as they get out they reoffend so they can go back in.

Anyway, with things like this, we are assured of quite a lot of horrors, violence and suffering in this wonderful prison of ours.

[onewithhim]

[Replying to post 516 by OnceConvinced]

I am sorry that you mar my post about the beauty of God's creation with such sad pictures and comments. Why did you seek to destroy something positive that I tried to share?

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[William]

[Replying to post 517 by onewithhim]

I saw this as more about balance as the earth is not just about beautiful appearing things.

Indeed, I think it goes a long way as to the argument put forth that your beliefs are things will have to change dramatically in relation to your stay on Earth forever...all those things which appear ugly will be 'transformed', as has been stated.

I think perhaps - in order for the ugly to be completely removed, this may indeed require a full reset.

This is because if one gets close enough it can be observed that everything has it 'ugly' side as it were, even the apparently beautiful things.

[marco]

[Replying to post 508 by Monta]

Quite true.

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[Monta]

[Replying to post 506 by William]


"In relation to the points the rest of my post brought up, which clearly showed great gaps of logic in the JWOs particular belief systems about that, they best not come knocking on my door spamming me about those, if they are unable/unwilling to question their own beliefs in the face of the logic of common sense, for they will be meet with rebuke on that count, because I for one disdain willfully ignorant dishonesty. no matter how dressed up it makes itself, for the sake of appearance."

Religious faith may appear as 'willfuly ignorant dishonesty' to an observer who only sees things from natural sciences, space and time and matter.
Scientists acknowledge there may may be many dimensions of life.
What call the spiritual, is just one of those dimensions.
To some people it is real to others it is not.

[Elijah John]

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