'Last Days' bible prophesy's

[William]

There is an ever increasing awareness of scientific data pointing to the conclusion that humanity is causing the planet to warm up due to the manner in which we have been and still are living and consuming resources on the planet.

While there is still a lot of debate about whether or not it is actually happening, and to what extent the damage will be if it is indeed happening, I am wondering if those who claim it is not happening are doing so because it is against their Christian beliefs as to how the world will end, and thus - Christians being the greater percentage of the western worlds population, this denial is why there is not far more effort placed in doing something about the problem.

Q: Does the bible mention anything to do with the planets climate heating up as part of its last days prophesies?

Q: If not, then is the likeliest reason for many people - largely the Christian population - not believing in the climate change that many scientists are warning us about, the result of that?

[Jagella]

Global Warning is foretold in the bible, albeit in a round about way because it says;

1: "God will bring about the ruin of those ruining the planet, destroying those who are destroying the planet"
2: "The lawless will fall from their secure position"
3: "The fourth angel poured out his bowl on the sun, and the sun was allowed to scorch people with fire."
4: "The end the world is to be by fire"

1: REVELATION 11:18
The nations were angry,
and your wrath has come.
The time has come for judging the dead,
and for rewarding your servants the prophets
and your people who revere your name,
both great and small"
and for destroying those who destroy the earth.

Like I told JW, these passages are way too vague to be sensibly interpreted as referring to global warming. If only it said, "People will pour stuff into the air that will heat the air jeopardizing life on earth," then I'd be more impressed with any prophetic claims of global warming.

That's the darndest thing about Jehovah; he just can't seem to make himself clear.

[Jagella]

I'll be glad to make it relevant given you seem to be unaware of the contents of the Bible.

• 2 Peter 3:10 The day of the Lord will come as a robber comes. The heavens will pass away with a loud noise. The sun and moon and stars will burn up. The earth and all that is in it will be burned up.

The passage you quote, 2 Peter 3:10, tells us that the end will come unexpectedly, but global warming obviously isn't unexpected. Neither will global warming make the sky go away with any noise quiet or loud, and it won't burn up the sun, the stars, or the earth.

But other than that, the first-century apocalyptic sect who thought the world would end in their day might be predicting global warming two thousand years in the future!

[Tcg]

I'll be glad to make it relevant given you seem to be unaware of the contents of the Bible.

• 2 Peter 3:10 The day of the Lord will come as a robber comes. The heavens will pass away with a loud noise. The sun and moon and stars will burn up. The earth and all that is in it will be burned up.

The passage you quote, 2 Peter 3:10, tells us that the end will come unexpectedly, but global warming obviously isn't unexpected. Neither will global warming make the sky go away with any noise quiet or loud, and it won't burn up the sun, the stars, or the earth.

But other than that, the first-century apocalyptic sect who thought the world would end in their day might be predicting global warming two thousand years in the future!

You've made the mistake of assuming that I think this verse describes global warming. I presented it simply as an example of a verse that describes the world ending in fire. That was the context of the discussion in which it was presented.


Ripping it from that context may be what led to your misunderstanding.



Tcg

[Jagella]

[Replying to post 33 by Tcg]

Obviously 2 Peter 3:10 is referring to the use of fire in warfare in antiquity. No doubt the Romans burned down much of the buildings erected by the Jews, so for the Jews the "end of the world" was Israel engulfed in flames as the Romans laid siege to it.

Anyway, I'm sorry if I misunderstood what you posted, but many Christians overlook the most obvious problems with believing that a religious sect two thousand years ago predicted global warming or anything else about the modern world. Did you notice that no Christian interpreted any New-Testament prophecy as predicting global warming until global warming became a problem? It's easy to "predict" events after they happen!

[1213]

Contributing.

I wrote - "millions of Christians are actually contributing to the ruination"

Ok, in that case, please explain, what do you mean with contributing to the ruination?

[dio9]

There is an ever increasing awareness of scientific data pointing to the conclusion that humanity is causing the planet to warm up due to the manner in which we have been and still are living and consuming resources on the planet.

While there is still a lot of debate about whether or not it is actually happening, and to what extent the damage will be if it is indeed happening, I am wondering if those who claim it is not happening are doing so because it is against their Christian beliefs as to how the world will end, and thus - Christians being the greater percentage of the western worlds population, this denial is why there is not far more effort placed in doing something about the problem.

Q: Does the bible mention anything to do with the planets climate heating up as part of its last days prophesies?

Q: If not, then is the likeliest reason for many people - largely the Christian population - not believing in the climate change that many scientists are warning us about, the result of that?

Climate change actually should be the warning bell for evangelical bible believers. Wild fires drought floods could herald he end of western civilization. The book of Revelation was written for the end of the Roman empire civilization. Global warming could mean the end of western civilization

[ttruscott]

Climate change actually should be the warning bell for evangelical bible believers. Wild fires drought floods could herald he end of western civilization. The book of Revelation was written for the end of the Roman empire civilization. Global warming could mean the end of western civilization

While I am pleased to see that this is a distinct possibility, it will get much much worse than this before the end...imhCo.

[Tcg]

Climate change actually should be the warning bell for evangelical bible believers. Wild fires drought floods could herald he end of western civilization. The book of Revelation was written for the end of the Roman empire civilization. Global warming could mean the end of western civilization

While I am pleased to see that this is a distinct possibility, it will get much much worse than this before the end...imhCo.

What specifically do you see as a distinct possibility and why does it bring you pleasure?



Tcg

[Jagella]

Climate change actually should be the warning bell for evangelical bible believers. Wild fires drought floods could herald he end of western civilization. The book of Revelation was written for the end of the Roman empire civilization. Global warming could mean the end of western civilization

While I am pleased to see that this is a distinct possibility, it will get much much worse than this before the end...imhCo.

Why would you be pleased about global warming? I do hope you're not looking forward to a world-wide catastrophe hoping that it's your ticket to paradise.

[dio9]

[Replying to ttruscott]

Indeed there will be wars and rumors of war as well, that's what's happening. As it was in Noah's days we have a faithless generation too . I'm afraid we could be at the event horizon for the end of western civilization. . All we need is an anti Christ figure to show up and seal the deal. But Of course there is still time to change our ways. Like the Ninevehvens did in Jonah's day to a hopeful one where we change our course of history avoiding disaster.