God's violent ways

[OnceConvinced]

The god of the bible tends do deal with sin and evil in very violent ways. Ie, wiping out cities, sending floods, ordering violent deaths, ordering the slaying of animals for sacrifices, sending curses and plagues, etc.

Can you point out any instances in the bible where God deals with sin and evil in non-violent ways?

And I mean God here. Not Jesus.
And there are times God showed mercy and didn't deal with the sin and evil, sure. But when he did, were there non-violent methods used?

[JehovahsWitness]

... advocating evil (slaughter infants and babies ...)

Are you suggesting that God advocated the slaughter of infants and babies? If so do you have a scriptural reference to support this claim?

[SallyF]

... advocating evil (slaughter infants and babies ...)

Are you suggesting that God advocated the slaughter of infants and babies? If so do you have a scriptural reference to support this claim?

24 Then Jehovah rained upon Sodom and upon Gomorrah brimstone and fire from Jehovah out of heaven;

25 And he overthrew those cities, and all the plain, and all the inhabitants of the cities, including all the women and all the children and all the straight men, in a most arbitrary, cruel and unjustified manner.

Jehovah not only advocates ethnic-cleansing genocide that puts ISIS to shame … he goes and does it HIMSELF …!


Thank God this arbitrary, cruel, unjustifiable god is as mythological as any other ethnic deity ...!

[JehovahsWitness]

[Replying to post 31 by SallyF]


I feel confident Marcus is capable of responding for himself. I do not know what bible account, if any he has in mind which is why I asked him for a reference.

As for your post, do you have a scriptural reference* in support of your point?

* a specific bible passage (book and chapter (and verse if possible))

[SallyF]

... advocating evil (slaughter infants and babies ...)

Are you suggesting that God advocated the slaughter of infants and babies? If so do you have a scriptural reference to support this claim?

But you shall devote them to complete destruction, the Hittites and the Amorites, the Canaanites and the Perizzites, the Hivites and the Jebusites, as Jehovah your god has commanded,


And so they did …

And they utterly destroyed all that was in the city, both man and woman, young and old, and ox, and sheep, and ass, with the edge of the sword



I go beyond suggesting.


The human-written propaganda of the mythological Jehovah god is very clear on the cruel, arbitrary and unjustified nature of this imaginary ethnic deity …


... a nature which, I suggest, reflects the nature of the people who imagine this evil sky being.


We are blessed to know that the biblical Jehovah is NOT God with a capital G.


This nasty fantasy creature is very much a newcomer to the business of being an invented patron deity to a culture of pagan hillbillies that existed on the frontiers of numerous great civilisations.

A culture that pretends to drink the blood of a human sacrifice.

And we should remember that Jesus is due to burst through the clouds at any moment to slaughter non-Christian infants and babies.

Some folks will even knock on your door to warn you that they have seen "signs" that this is just about to happen, and give you pamphlets depicting the bucolic idyll you can live in when the genocide passes … IF you make the RIGHT choices …!

[JehovahsWitness]

But you shall devote them to complete destruction, the Hittites and the Amorites, the Canaanites and the Perizzites, the Hivites and the Jebusites, as Jehovah your god has commanded,

And so they did …

And they utterly destroyed all that was in the city, both man and woman, young and old, and ox, and sheep, and ass, with the edge of the sword

Do you even know how to provide a reference for a text?

You write the name of the book (for example type GENESIS and then you put the number of the chapter , for example 12 so a reference would look like this : Genesis 12. - this is usually followed by the verse although that is not absolutely necessary if it's too difficult ).

A reference enables anyone wishing to responded to check the quotation for accuracy and examine the context. Would you like to try and provide a reference in your post?

[benchwarmer]

But you shall devote them to complete destruction, the Hittites and the Amorites, the Canaanites and the Perizzites, the Hivites and the Jebusites, as Jehovah your god has commanded,

And so they did …

And they utterly destroyed all that was in the city, both man and woman, young and old, and ox, and sheep, and ass, with the edge of the sword

Do you even know how to provide a reference for a text?

You write the name of the book (for example type GENESIS and then you put the number of the chapter , for example 12 so a reference would look like this : Genesis 12. - this is usually followed by the verse although that is not absolutely necessary if it's too difficult ).

A reference enables anyone wishing to responded to check the quotation for accuracy and examine the context. Would you like to try and provide a reference in your post?

As a comment, if anyone is having trouble finding a reference because someone has not given the necessary details, it's always possible to use google and biblegateway as follows:

In your browser address bar type: google.com
In the search field, put the desired quote into quotation marks and follow this with the word biblegateway.

Example: "But you shall devote them to complete destruction" biblegateway

Voila.

At that point you can check the reference or if nothing was found seek the source from the original poster.

[SallyF]

But you shall devote them to complete destruction, the Hittites and the Amorites, the Canaanites and the Perizzites, the Hivites and the Jebusites, as Jehovah your god has commanded,

And so they did …

And they utterly destroyed all that was in the city, both man and woman, young and old, and ox, and sheep, and ass, with the edge of the sword

Do you even know how to provide a reference for a text?

You write the name of the book (for example type GENESIS and then you put the number of the chapter , for example 12 so a reference would look like this : Genesis 12. - this is usually followed by the verse although that is not absolutely necessary if it's too difficult ).

A reference enables anyone wishing to responded to check the quotation for accuracy and examine the context. Would you like to try and provide a reference in your post?

As a comment, if anyone is having trouble finding a reference because someone has not given the necessary details, it's always possible to use google and biblegateway as follows:

In your browser address bar type: google.com
In the search field, put the desired quote into quotation marks and follow this with the word biblegateway.

Example: "But you shall devote them to complete destruction" biblegateway

Voila.

At that point you can check the reference or if nothing was found seek the source from the original poster.

Thanks Member Benchwarmer - there is always reason in what I do.

I suspect we ALL know where the quotes are found.

I suspect we ALL know perfectly well how to find quotes that are not referenced.

SOME of us look for apparent minor flaws to avoid addressing the main points.


Certain of the main points I made concern the biblical propagandists writing of the mythological Jehovah performing cruel, arbitray and unjust genocidal acts on innocent children.


And the mythological Jehovah commanding his minions to perform cruel, arbitrary and unjust acts of genocide on innocent children.


It is VERY significant that these MAIN points were not addressed ... again.

[sorrento]

[Replying to post 30 by JehovahsWitness]

JW, you said, "Are you suggesting that God advocated the slaughter of infants and babies?"

I find it difficult to understand why you felt the need to ask such a question.
Plenty of biblical passages have already been provided indicating that your god did indeed advocate the slaughter of babies and infants.
When you were reading your bible did you miss those bits or is your bible edited in order to remove such "difficulties"?

[JehovahsWitness]

Plenty of biblical passages have already been provided ...

Well if you could site any with references, I'll be sure to address your post. It is simply good form to provide a reference when requested and I remind you you are in a debating forum where you may well indeed be asked to support your claims. If you feel inclined to provide any evidence for what you say feel free, in the meanntime do not be surpised if your posts are dismissed as being unsubstantiated.

Have an excellent day, goodbye,


JW

[JehovahsWitness]

As a comment, if anyone is having trouble finding a reference because someone has not given the necessary details, it's always possible to use google and biblegateway as follows:

It is and I would expect the person making the claim to do so. I spend enough time writing and researching my own posts and have no desire to waste any on posts that are sloppily referenced. I'm sure, however the newbies will appreciate your help.

Thank you for your input,


JW