Jesus never had "Christ" as proper name. Did he?

[paarsurrey1]

Jesus never had "Christ" as his proper name. Did he? Please
Regards

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This thread was visualized from post # 33 by friend Willum in the thread "Jesus was not a Christian ".

[JehovahsWitness]

[Replying to post 1 by paarsurrey1]

Christ isn't a personal name IT'S A TITLE, like Lord, King or Prophet. It basically means "anointed one" (Messiah) and is based on the biblical tradition to pour oil on king's heads as a sign they have been chosen by God to rule. The Hebrew bible spoke of the coming of a great leader, refered to as "The Messiah" (Dan 9:25).

Jesus identified himself as The Christ or The Messiah and others also recognized and verbalized that they believed him to be that one.


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Here is some more information from the JEHOVAH'S WITNESS website on the topic.


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https://wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/1200000966



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[paarsurrey1]

[Replying to post 2 by JehovahsWitness]

So, one agrees that Christ is not the proper name of Jesus. It is a title. Right? Please.
Does one also agree that Jesus like his mother Mary was a Jew? Please
Regards

[bjs]

[Replying to paarsurrey1]

Yes, Christ is a title, not a name. Yes, Jesus was Jewish.

[Willum]

[Replying to post 3 by paarsurrey1]

If "Christ" was his title then he was as much a "Christian," as a king is a subject. That is to say he was a special kind of Christian as, "even a king is bound by the laws of his country."

No, Jesus DID NOT PRACTICE THE RELIGION JUDAISM.
He wasn't Jewish.

No, he did not follow the dietary guides.
He wasn't Jewish.

He didn't adhere to the Commandments.
He wasn't Jewish.

If HIS FATHER WAS GOD, then any human genealogy practices would take second stage to God's genealogy.
He wasn't Jewish.

He does seem to be You-wish.

If his father was Tiberius Panthera, NOT God, then he may have been Jewish but unholy:

A bastard shall not enter into the congregation of the LORD; even to his tenth generation shall he not enter into the congregation of the LORD. Deuteronomy 23:2

So he could not have been Christ.
I doubt he would be Jewish.

Please.

[bjs]

[Replying to Willum]

You make several very strange and over-the-topic claims here, all of which contradict the facts more commonly accepted by scholars and laypeople alike. What evidence do you have to support them?

[Willum]

[Replying to post 6 by bjs]

Wow, the power of reading of course.

In order to demonstrate Jesus did not practice Judaism, one need only look at the differences between Judaism and Christianity. There are a multitude, and Christianity is closer to other religions than it is Judaism, so it would be easier to call him a Zoroastrian, by logic and comparison, than Jewish.

Jesus waived the dietary practices:

Mark 7:15-19
“There is nothing outside the man which can defile him if it goes into him; but the things which proceed out of the man are what defile the man. [� If anyone has ears to hear, let him hear.�] When he had left the crowd and entered the house, His disciples questioned Him about the parable. And He said to them, “Are you so lacking in understanding also? Do you not understand that whatever goes into the man from outside cannot defile him, because it does not go into his heart, but into his stomach, and is eliminated?� (Thus He declared all foods clean.)

Ignored commandments:
[Non-Jewish interpretation of Commandments]

I will call anyone an idiot, quite against forum rules, who says that God's genome is subservient to a Jewish genealogy CONVENTION, that has not been consistent over the centuries.

I'll need you to ask me questions about if Jesus' father was human. It all seems obvious to me.

[bjs]

[Replying to post 6 by bjs]

Wow, the power of reading of course.

In order to demonstrate Jesus did not practice Judaism, one need only look at the differences between Judaism and Christianity. There are a multitude, and Christianity is closer to other religions than it is Judaism, so it would be easier to call him a Zoroastrian, by logic and comparison, than Jewish.

Jesus waived the dietary practices:

Mark 7:15-19
“There is nothing outside the man which can defile him if it goes into him; but the things which proceed out of the man are what defile the man. [� If anyone has ears to hear, let him hear.�] When he had left the crowd and entered the house, His disciples questioned Him about the parable. And He said to them, “Are you so lacking in understanding also? Do you not understand that whatever goes into the man from outside cannot defile him, because it does not go into his heart, but into his stomach, and is eliminated?� (Thus He declared all foods clean.)

Jesus did teach that it was how one lived, not what one ate, that made a person “clean� or “unclean.� Years after his death, his first disciples did abandon the dietary restriction of Judaism.

You have not yet given any evidence that Jesus did not keep the dietary restrictions himself.

Given the nature of his teachings and his position as a rabbi, had he not kept those restriction it certainly would have been a noteworthy event. Is there a mention of it?

Ignored commandments:
[Non-Jewish interpretation of Commandments]

I will call anyone an idiot, quite against forum rules, who says that God's genome is subservient to a Jewish genealogy CONVENTION, that has not been consistent over the centuries.

I'll need you to ask me questions about if Jesus' father was human. It all seems obvious to me.

A person’s parents did not have to be Jewish for that person to be Jewish. The command Deuteronomy would prevent someone of illegitimate birth from taking part in the assembly at the Tabernacle (when it existed). It would not prevent someone from being Jewish.

[bluethread]

[Replying to post 6 by bjs]

Wow, the power of reading of course.

In order to demonstrate Jesus did not practice Judaism, one need only look at the differences between Judaism and Christianity. There are a multitude, and Christianity is closer to other religions than it is Judaism, so it would be easier to call him a Zoroastrian, by logic and comparison, than Jewish.

Jesus waived the dietary practices:

Mark 7:15-19
“There is nothing outside the man which can defile him if it goes into him; but the things which proceed out of the man are what defile the man. [� If anyone has ears to hear, let him hear.�] When he had left the crowd and entered the house, His disciples questioned Him about the parable. And He said to them, “Are you so lacking in understanding also? Do you not understand that whatever goes into the man from outside cannot defile him, because it does not go into his heart, but into his stomach, and is eliminated?� (Thus He declared all foods clean.)

For yet another time, He is not talking about anything one can put into one's mouth, i.e. rocks, sulfuric acid, dog poo. He is talking about eating FOOD without following a rabbinic hand washing. Food is that which is acceptable to eat as determined by a given culture. Therefore, the cultural rules of the culture are implied when one uses the term "food". The hnd washing is not in HaTorah, but is a rabbinic rule, which many Jews do not follow. So, He was not violating a commandment by saying the eating food with unwashed hands does not make the food unclean.

[marco]

Jesus never had "Christ" as his proper name. Did he? Please
Regards

We are told that the Son of Man has nowhere to lie down or some such thing. He is also nameless. It is amazing that such an important historical figure bears only the titles:
"Saviour" -Jesus and "Anointed" - Christ

Who was he? We have no idea. He suddenly appeared when he was thirty and stayed on Earth for three more years, bearing the title: King of the Jews, which he wasn't.