Black lives matter TOO

[benchwarmer]

Question: Does anyone else share the opinion that there would be a lot less fuss over "Black Lives Matter" vs "All Lives Matter" if the original slogan was simply "Black Lives Matter Too!".

It's just a single extra word, but I think it both highlights the real problem (that skin color shouldn't determine worth and some people with black skin color are being unfairly treated) and at the same time does not exclude others. I think some rightly bristle at the shortened version as it seems to put all the focus on one group. It brings to mind the question about whether brown, white, etc. lives matter as well.

I honestly wish that we would stop focusing on skin color and start focusing on humans. No human should be unfairly treated. Those who treat others differently because they have a different skin/hair/eye/whatever color, speak a different language, have a different religion, etc are the actual problem. My opinion is this problem is almost entirely driven by education or lack thereof. I think those without a broad education and understanding of the entire world around them naturally focus on the small group around them and can't see that we are all just humans.

[Deeogee]

Blue Lives Matter

Babies Lives Matter


These two covers all colors.

[bluegreenearth]

[Replying to benchwarmer in post #1]

The source behind these divisive messages that have perverted the diversity and inclusion movement is something called "Critical Race Theory." It used to be an obscure academic idea with an understandable objective of identifying where problems with racism persist in our society. However, it has a terrible side-effect of creating more problems than it hopes to solve. You can read more about it at the following link: https://newdiscourses.com/2020/06/reaso ... ng-racism/

[Mithrae]

[koko]

Kindly support the notion that racism is "institutional" in either the USA or the UK.

Before I go dig up some numbers, would disproportionate stop and search count as institutional racism? I ask because the following...

Cite the laws which discriminate against people because of their skin color. As far as I know, discrimination against anyone because of their race is illegal in both the US and the UK.

... suggest that you think it only counts when the law itself discriminates.

Yes it does. Do those strip searches in the white suburbs (especially to white women) and see if society doesn't put an immediate stop to it.

[AgnosticBoy]

[Replying to koko in post #14]

I don't think the color of the community matters but rather the class and crime rate. Blacks are stopped and searched more if they are in areas of high crime, and unfortunately there are a lot of high crime areas in Black communities.

[koko]

[koko]

[Replying to koko in post #14]

I don't think the color of the community matters but rather the class and crime rate. Blacks are stopped and searched more if they are in areas of high crime, and unfortunately there are a lot of high crime areas in Black communities.

They get stopped everywhere, even in downtown business areas. I've seen it happen and this has been pointed out and documented enough times.

[Elijah John]

Kindly support the notion that racism is "institutional" in either the USA or the UK.

Before I go dig up some numbers, would disproportionate stop and search count as institutional racism? I ask because the following...

Cite the laws which discriminate against people because of their skin color. As far as I know, discrimination against anyone because of their race is illegal in both the US and the UK.

... suggest that you think it only counts when the law itself discriminates.

Yes it does. Do those strip searches in the white suburbs (especially to white women) and see if society doesn't put an immediate stop to it.

Profiling may be fair game, given the fact that blacks commit disproportionate violent crime relative to their population.
Also, what "strip searches" are you talking about? Frisking should not be conflated with strip searches.

[koko]

Profiling may be fair game, given the fact that blacks commit disproportionate violent crime relative to their population.
Also, what "strip searches" are you talking about? Frisking should not be conflated with strip searches.

There isn't much online data on racial profiling and disproportionate strip searches based on race/ethniticy but here is something:


https://repository.law.umich.edu/cgi/vi ... ntext=mjrl


As always, police engage in this stupidity far more often on minorities. Again, minorities do not commit the majority of crimes in society, whites do. It's just that the cops gleefully abuse the law more when a minority is involved in an alleged crime.

[koko]