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Loving but not liking

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You can love someone without liking them. They may be a good person at heart, but you don't like how the talk to others, their political views, their style....whatever.

Can you love God without liking him?

You may be able to love God for what or who he is, but not like what he's done to people in the past (or what he's doing or allowing currently). Or not?
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nobspeople wrote: Wed Dec 09, 2020 11:02 am You can love someone without liking them. They may be a good person at heart, but you don't like how the talk to others, their political views, their style....whatever.

Can you love God without liking him?

You may be able to love God for what or who he is, but not like what he's done to people in the past (or what he's doing or allowing currently). Or not?
No, because when I've loved someone whom I didn't like, my dislike was because of what I considered to be an acquired fault(s), which would not override my love. God, on the other hand, is supposed to be perfect and faultless, so if there was a reason not to like him it would be because his innate character, which would be enough to quash any love. I can't love a god whose morality lets him condone slavery, advocate killing practicing homosexuals, and sees no injustice in killing innocent women and children.


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Miles wrote: Wed Dec 09, 2020 1:15 pm
nobspeople wrote: Wed Dec 09, 2020 11:02 am You can love someone without liking them. They may be a good person at heart, but you don't like how the talk to others, their political views, their style....whatever.

Can you love God without liking him?

You may be able to love God for what or who he is, but not like what he's done to people in the past (or what he's doing or allowing currently). Or not?
No, because when I've loved someone whom I didn't like, my dislike was because of what I considered to be an acquired fault(s), which would not override my love. God, on the other hand, is supposed to be perfect and faultless, so if there was a reason not to like him it would be because his innate character, which would be enough to quash any love.


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Thanks for the response.
To clarify: If one loves God, then they liked (aka OK with) all his decisions and thus, like him?
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nobspeople wrote: Wed Dec 09, 2020 1:18 pm
Miles wrote: Wed Dec 09, 2020 1:15 pm
nobspeople wrote: Wed Dec 09, 2020 11:02 am You can love someone without liking them. They may be a good person at heart, but you don't like how the talk to others, their political views, their style....whatever.

Can you love God without liking him?

You may be able to love God for what or who he is, but not like what he's done to people in the past (or what he's doing or allowing currently). Or not?
No, because when I've loved someone whom I didn't like, my dislike was because of what I considered to be an acquired fault(s), which would not override my love. God, on the other hand, is supposed to be perfect and faultless, so if there was a reason not to like him it would be because his innate character, which would be enough to quash any love.


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Thanks for the response.
To clarify: If one loves God, then they liked (aka OK with) all his decisions and thus, like him?
I'd say either that or the person is unaware of their immorality. I've found that many Christians excuse god's immoral acts or positions by considering everything god does as moral by default. "God eating little children is moral, and burning off the hands of masturbators is moral? Yup because by default nothing god does can ever be immoral." It's a matter of redefining the word "immoral" to save the nature of a single entity. It's like declaring 2 + 2 doesn't equal 4 because you detest the number 4, so you say 2 + 2 equals 5. Stupid? Of course, but it saves your belief in the nature of mathematics.


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Miles wrote: Wed Dec 09, 2020 1:52 pm
nobspeople wrote: Wed Dec 09, 2020 1:18 pm
Miles wrote: Wed Dec 09, 2020 1:15 pm
nobspeople wrote: Wed Dec 09, 2020 11:02 am You can love someone without liking them. They may be a good person at heart, but you don't like how the talk to others, their political views, their style....whatever.

Can you love God without liking him?

You may be able to love God for what or who he is, but not like what he's done to people in the past (or what he's doing or allowing currently). Or not?
No, because when I've loved someone whom I didn't like, my dislike was because of what I considered to be an acquired fault(s), which would not override my love. God, on the other hand, is supposed to be perfect and faultless, so if there was a reason not to like him it would be because his innate character, which would be enough to quash any love.


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Thanks for the response.
To clarify: If one loves God, then they liked (aka OK with) all his decisions and thus, like him?
I'd say either that or the person is unaware of their immorality. I've found that many Christians excuse god's immoral acts or positions by considering everything god does as moral by default. "God eating little children is moral, and burning off the hands of masturbators is moral? Yup because by default nothing god does can ever be immoral." It's a matter of redefining the word "immoral" to save the nature of a single entity. It's like declaring 2 + 2 doesn't equal 4 because you detest the number 4, so you say 2 + 2 equals 5. Stupid? Of course, but it saves your belief in the nature of mathematics.


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Another excellent post - thanks for contributing! I couldn't agree more with what you say here. I get why Christians do this - I really do. I just don't think it's moral or right or honest to do so.
I'm sure they don't care what I think though :D
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Miles wrote:
God eating little children is moral, and burning off the hands of masturbators is moral?
Where in the Bible does it say that?

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Overcomer wrote: Wed Dec 09, 2020 1:57 pm Miles wrote:
God eating little children is moral, and burning off the hands of masturbators is moral?
Where in the Bible does it say that?
It doesn't. I was exaggerating for the purpose of illustration.


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Miles wrote: Wed Dec 09, 2020 2:22 pm
Overcomer wrote: Wed Dec 09, 2020 1:57 pm Miles wrote:
God eating little children is moral, and burning off the hands of masturbators is moral?
Where in the Bible does it say that?
It doesn't. I was exaggerating for the purpose of illustration.


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Well, you never know - bible says some pretty weird things! :D
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nobspeople wrote: Wed Dec 09, 2020 11:02 am You can love someone without liking them. ...
Yes. In Biblical point of view love means caring without conditions. And in practice it means I dont do anything evil to others, even if I dont like them.
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1213 wrote: Thu Dec 10, 2020 12:31 pm
nobspeople wrote: Wed Dec 09, 2020 11:02 am You can love someone without liking them. ...
Yes. In Biblical point of view love means caring without conditions. And in practice it means I dont do anything evil to others, even if I dont like them.
Can this concept be attributed to God as well?
Why or why not?
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