I'm not sure if this is quite the right subforum for this, but I'm taking a guess that it is.
Assault is a violent move against someone. Rape takes assault to another level because, in the case of rape, the assault continues even when the assailant is no longer present; the victim's body is still being invaded.
Question for moral debate:
Given that rape is a type of assault which continues even after the assailant leaves the scene, is someone who denies emergency contraception to the victim of a rape acting as an accessory to that rape?
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Re: A moral question about rape
Post #2Care to explain how this and this can happen when the assailant has left the scene?Athetotheist wrote: ↑Sat Dec 26, 2020 9:26 pm I'm not sure if this is quite the right subforum for this, but I'm taking a guess that it is.
Assault is a violent move against someone. Rape takes assault to another level because, in the case of rape, the assault continues even when the assailant is no longer present; the victim's body is still being invaded.
Waiting for an answer for my question above.Question for moral debate:
Given that rape is a type of assault which continues even after the assailant leaves the scene, is someone who denies emergency contraception to the victim of a rape acting as an accessory to that rape?
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Re: A moral question about rape
Post #3Do you actually need this explained in graphic detail?Miles wrote: ↑Sun Dec 27, 2020 12:46 amCare to explain how this and this can happen when the assailant has left the scene?Athetotheist wrote: ↑Sat Dec 26, 2020 9:26 pmAssault is a violent move against someone. Rape takes assault to another level because, in the case of rape, the assault continues even when the assailant is no longer present; the victim's body is still being invaded.
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Re: A moral question about rape
Post #4No, just explain it. How can any assault continue to take place after the assailant has left?Athetotheist wrote: ↑Sun Dec 27, 2020 7:47 amDo you actually need this explained in graphic detail?Miles wrote: ↑Sun Dec 27, 2020 12:46 amCare to explain how this and this can happen when the assailant has left the scene?Athetotheist wrote: ↑Sat Dec 26, 2020 9:26 pmAssault is a violent move against someone. Rape takes assault to another level because, in the case of rape, the assault continues even when the assailant is no longer present; the victim's body is still being invaded.
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Re: A moral question about rape
Post #5Let's put it this way: Suppose you're hiking in the mountains and you stumble onto a rattlesnake. The snake bites you and then crawls off through the underbrush. Does the snake's departure mean that what it left in you will have no effect?Miles wrote: ↑Sun Dec 27, 2020 2:24 pmNo, just explain it. How can any assault continue to take place after the assailant has left?Athetotheist wrote: ↑Sun Dec 27, 2020 7:47 amDo you actually need this explained in graphic detail?Miles wrote: ↑Sun Dec 27, 2020 12:46 amCare to explain how this and this can happen when the assailant has left the scene?Athetotheist wrote: ↑Sat Dec 26, 2020 9:26 pmAssault is a violent move against someone. Rape takes assault to another level because, in the case of rape, the assault continues even when the assailant is no longer present; the victim's body is still being invaded.
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Re: A moral question about rape
Post #6OH! you didn't mean the "the assault continues" but that there were.. a f t e r ...e f f e c t s... For the "assault to continue" in a rape situation the assailant would have to still be forcing himself on the victim. After the actual assault stops the rape has ended.Athetotheist wrote: ↑Sun Dec 27, 2020 5:37 pmLet's put it this way: Suppose you're hiking in the mountains and you stumble onto a rattlesnake. The snake bites you and then crawls off through the underbrush. Does the snake's departure mean that what it left in you will have no effect?Miles wrote: ↑Sun Dec 27, 2020 2:24 pmNo, just explain it. How can any assault continue to take place after the assailant has left?Athetotheist wrote: ↑Sun Dec 27, 2020 7:47 amDo you actually need this explained in graphic detail?Miles wrote: ↑Sun Dec 27, 2020 12:46 amCare to explain how this and this can happen when the assailant has left the scene?Athetotheist wrote: ↑Sat Dec 26, 2020 9:26 pmAssault is a violent move against someone. Rape takes assault to another level because, in the case of rape, the assault continues even when the assailant is no longer present; the victim's body is still being invaded.
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RAPE noun (1)
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1 : unlawful sexual activity and usually sexual intercourse carried out forcibly or under threat of injury against a person's will or with a person who is beneath a certain age or incapable of valid consent because of mental illness, mental deficiency, intoxication, unconsciousness, or deception
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1 : unlawful sexual activity and usually sexual intercourse carried out forcibly or under threat of injury against a person's will or with a person who is beneath a certain age or incapable of valid consent because of mental illness, mental deficiency, intoxication, unconsciousness, or deception
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After the activity (the assault) stops, the assault no longer exists. To claim other wise would be like whining that some someone is beating you up because your nose still hurts a half hour after you got punched in the face, and your assailant has long left.
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Re: A moral question about rape
Post #7If the assault of rape stops when the activity stops, then the assault definitely goes on after the assailant leaves because what the assailant leaves in the victim is still active. If a terrorist sets the timer on a bomb and then leaves the scene, is the attack no longer being carried out?
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Re: A moral question about rape
Post #8As soon as the bomb detonates (the physical raping is over) the attack is no longer being carried out. It no longer exists. Obviously you have a very warped concept of the words "attack" and "assault." I suggest you look them up in a dictionary and pay careful attention to their definitions.Athetotheist wrote: ↑Mon Dec 28, 2020 8:25 amIf the assault of rape stops when the activity stops, then the assault definitely goes on after the assailant leaves because what the assailant leaves in the victim is still active. If a terrorist sets the timer on a bomb and then leaves the scene, is the attack no longer being carried out?
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Re: A moral question about rape
Post #9The physical attack is only the first detonation. It sets the timer on the second, which goes off later......unless emergency contraception is available.Miles wrote: ↑Mon Dec 28, 2020 2:34 pmAs soon as the bomb detonates (the physical raping is over) the attack is no longer being carried out. It no longer exists. Obviously you have a very warped concept of the words "attack" and "assault." I suggest you look them up in a dictionary and pay careful attention to their definitions.Athetotheist wrote: ↑Mon Dec 28, 2020 8:25 amIf the assault of rape stops when the activity stops, then the assault definitely goes on after the assailant leaves because what the assailant leaves in the victim is still active. If a terrorist sets the timer on a bomb and then leaves the scene, is the attack no longer being carried out?
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