Of course this is based on personal opinion (some of you may not like that), but is all of God's more 'negative' decisions made in the bible justified? I'm sure all Christians would say YES, while non-Christians may be mixed in their responses.
For those that say YES, God's more 'negative' actions (drowning most of the life on the planet, drowning Pharoah and his army when they crossed after Moses (God likes to drown, it seems - weird), killing of Egypt's first born, allowing Job to be tortured to prove a point when he already knew how faithful he was, etc), are you saying YES because he is God and can do no wrong (in other words, you question his motives based on your understanding but stand behind him nonetheless) or do you believe, 100%, he was right in his actions?
Can you provide reference as to why and how he was 100% justified?
Is God always justified in his actions?
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Re: Is God always justified in his actions?
Post #31Tcg wrote: ↑Mon Jun 21, 2021 1:50 amOf course not.JehovahsWitness wrote: ↑Mon Jun 21, 2021 1:40 am
Unless you are a mind reader you can never know that for sure can you? Are you a mindreader?
Well then thanks for sharing your guesses. It will go in my guess basket for useless topics for debate.
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Re: Is God always justified in his actions?
Post #32Not a guess at all. A logical conclusion based on your claim. File it under your admission that you can't support your claim that the bible is holy.JehovahsWitness wrote: ↑Mon Jun 21, 2021 2:03 amTcg wrote: ↑Mon Jun 21, 2021 1:50 amOf course not.JehovahsWitness wrote: ↑Mon Jun 21, 2021 1:40 am
Unless you are a mind reader you can never know that for sure can you? Are you a mindreader?
Well then thanks for sharing your guesses. It will go in my guess basket for useless topics for debate.
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Re: Is God always justified in his actions?
Post #33I made no such claim, your post is untrue. One does not need to believe in God to use the term God. And one does not have to believe the bible is holy to use the term.
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Re: Is God always justified in his actions?
Post #34Then please feel free to both explain and support the following claim:JehovahsWitness wrote: ↑Mon Jun 21, 2021 2:14 amI made no such claim, your post is untrue. One does not need to believe in God to use the term God. And one does not have to believe the bible is holy to use the term.
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Much better to get a read on standards from the holy bible.
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Post #35Tcg wrote: ↑Mon Jun 21, 2021 2:20 am
Then please feel free to both explain and support the following claim:
JehovahsWitness wrote: ↑Mon Jun 21, 2021 1:16 am
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Certainly,
Much better to get a read on standards from the holy bible written millennia ago than from fellow human beings who had a desire to excuse their own bloodthirsty nature by claiming their god gave them the right to behave horribly.
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Re: Is God always justified in his actions?
Post #36This doesn't support your claim that the bible is holy. Care to try again?JehovahsWitness wrote: ↑Mon Jun 21, 2021 2:26 amTcg wrote: ↑Mon Jun 21, 2021 2:20 am
Then please feel free to both explain and support the following claim:
JehovahsWitness wrote: ↑Mon Jun 21, 2021 1:16 am
Much better to get a read on standards from the holy bible.
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Certainly,Much better to get a read on standards from the holy bible written millennia ago than from fellow human beings who had a desire to excuse their own bloodthirsty nature by claiming their god gave them the right to behave horribly.
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Post #37I made no such claim. And you have not proven that I did. I used the term to identify the book.
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Post #38I just did by quoting you. Are you suggesting my quote is inaccurate? Are you asserting that you didn't make this claim?JehovahsWitness wrote: ↑Mon Jun 21, 2021 2:30 amYou have not proven I made any such claim. I used the term to identify the book.
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Post #39I just did. Are you claiming I did not just explain above in what way I used the term? I repeat ". I used the term to identify the book. " I have provided evidence that the bible is commonly referred to as "Holy", I made no claim as to whether it merits such a name or whether the name renders its contents true.
It is untrue to say that I claimed the bible is holy; I did not.
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Post #40Nope. You described it as holy. If you want to retract that claim please do. If on the other hand you believe it is holy, I challenge you to support your claim. You can't take the position that it is both holy and not holy, at least not rationally. Which is it? Holy, not holy, or irrationality?JehovahsWitness wrote: ↑Mon Jun 21, 2021 2:38 amTcg wrote: ↑Mon Jun 21, 2021 2:33 amI just did by quoting you. Are you suggesting my quote is inaccurate? Are you asserting that you didn't make this claim?JehovahsWitness wrote: ↑Mon Jun 21, 2021 2:30 amYou have not proven I made any such claim. I used the term to identify the book.
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I just did. Are you claiming I did not just explain above in what way I used the term? I repeat ". I used the term to identify the book. " I have provided evidence that the bible is commonly referred to as Holy, I made no claim as to whether it merits such a name and it is untrue to say that I did.
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