Faith Heaing?

[POI]

This thread is a spin-off for the already created topic "Prayer"....

The Bible instructs that God grants prayer requests - i.e. (Matthew 7:7), (Matthew 21:22), (Mark 11:24), (John 14:13-14), and (John 16:23); to name a few....

Let's assume the provided faith healer is genuine, and is a true believer. Many faith healers travel from place to place, and apparently offer cures for many, or at least claim to...

Why won't the faith healers ever seem to bother trying to pray for the regrowth of an amputated limb, or pray for the removal of someone's cerebral palsy, or pray for someone's child to no longer have downs syndrome? Or do they? And when they do, do they already know God will not answer the call, as instructed in the Bible?

Or is it because:

A. The faith healer knows God does not cure these particular conditions, and hence, the faith healer does not bother praying for the removal of them? Which begs the follow up question; why does the faith healer know this?
B. The faith healer does pray for the reversal of these conditions, and when these conditions always perpetually continue, the faith healer states "God has not answered (yet)"; even though the unfortunate recipients of these conditions will die with these conditions?
C. Faith healers know, deep down, they are a fraud, and are doing this for other reasons?
D. Other?

In line with Scripture, it seems to me quite odd that God is claimed to answer prayer, time and time again, but always skips over amputees, cerebral palsy, and downs syndrome.?.?.?.?

[1213]

...1. Don't you find it curious, that God exclusively touches the lives of the ones, where another explanation may also be the result of their cure?

That one can make multiple explanations, doesn't mean they are also correct. Even if you can develop other explanation, God can still be the correct explanation.

...2. If God is curing all sorts of conditions, why does He skip, 100% of the time; amputees, cerebral palsy, and downs syndrome - (which could ONLY currently be reversed by God's prayer)?

How do you know that? What proof you have for that?

[OnceConvinced]

[Replying to Miles in post #7]

Yes, this one was used all the time in the 80s by so-called legitimate faith healers. I came across people claiming they'd undergone this miracle themselves. Honest, sincere believers. The thing is, I used to believe those faith healers were the real thing! It was tragic to realize that evangelists I respected and applauded were con artists.

These guys are also entertainers. A lot of them like to perform and make silly noises and do silly actions. It should be obvious they are charlatans really.

[OnceConvinced]

...1. Don't you find it curious, that God exclusively touches the lives of the ones, where another explanation may also be the result of their cure?

That one can make multiple explanations, doesn't mean they are also correct. Even if you can develop other explanation, God can still be the correct explanation.

Nothing should be considered a viable explanation unless you can prove it CAN be a viable explanation. Otherwise we can make any outrageous claim we like. No one has ever been able to prove that a god is an explanation for anything.

Even you have pointed out it is pretty much impossible to tell the difference between a natural outcome vs a supernatural outcome. Why even entertain a supernatural outcome if you have a natural one you can go with? I can answer that. Wishful thinking. Because you really, really, really, really, want to believe God answers prayer.

[POI]

...1. Don't you find it curious, that God exclusively touches the lives of the ones, where another explanation may also be the result of their cure?

That one can make multiple explanations, doesn't mean they are also correct. Even if you can develop other explanation, God can still be the correct explanation.

If God were ever to be the explanation, this would mean that when God is asked to address amputees, cerebral palsy, or downs syndrome, His answer is 100% of the time, NO. I find this untenable, as you likely claim that God sometimes says YES to prayer. This means that either God does not think these three conditions should EVER be addressed, or maybe, just maybe, no such God is there at all answering prayer requests.

...2. If God is curing all sorts of conditions, why does He skip, 100% of the time; amputees, cerebral palsy, and downs syndrome - (which could ONLY currently be reversed by God's prayer)?

How do you know that? What proof you have for that?

Because thus far, no one has had their amputated limbs grow back, or have had their cerebral palsy removed, or have been removed of their downs syndrome. They all die with these conditions. If God does exist, why is He skipping over these requests, 100% of the time?

[nobspeople]

...1. Don't you find it curious, that God exclusively touches the lives of the ones, where another explanation may also be the result of their cure?

That one can make multiple explanations, doesn't mean they are also correct. Even if you can develop other explanation, God can still be the correct explanation.

Nothing should be considered a viable explanation unless you can prove it CAN be a viable explanation. Otherwise we can make any outrageous claim we like. No one has ever been able to prove that a god is an explanation for anything.

Even you have pointed out it is pretty much impossible to tell the difference between a natural outcome vs a supernatural outcome. Why even entertain a supernatural outcome if you have a natural one you can go with? I can answer that. Wishful thinking. Because you really, really, really, really, want to believe God answers prayer.

I think that can be said of every single person that believes in God. They WANT. Want want want; sometimes the want becomes a need. And that's fine - we all want something from time to time. But when want supersedes logic, common sense, reasoning and, in some instances, data and facts, it becomes a problem. Not only for the believer but also, many times, for those around them.

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Even you have pointed out it is pretty much impossible to tell the difference between a natural outcome vs a supernatural outcome....

Sorry, I dont think I have said that. I think I have said, even if supernatural, person can claim that it is really something else. Person who doesnt want to believe in God, can always say there is some other reason, even if God would have really done it.

[POI]

Sorry, I dont think I have said that. I think I have said, even if supernatural, person can claim that it is really something else. Person who doesnt want to believe in God, can always say there is some other reason, even if God would have really done it.

Okay, I hear what you are saying. But answer me this....

I would assume you assert that God sometimes answers petitionary and/or intercessory prayers, right? Assuming your answer is yes....

Why does God skip over, 100% of the time, requests to restore amputated limbs, requests to remove cerebral palsy, and requests to remove downs syndrome?

If we saw a faith healer address any of these, with success, the hardest skeptic would have to place the (prayed upon god) at least as a probable answer. Why? Because we currently have no natural cures/reversals for the said conditions.

[JoeyKnothead]

Sorry, I dont think I have said that. I think I have said, even if supernatural, person can claim that it is really something else. Person who doesnt want to believe in God, can always say there is some other reason, even if God would have really done it.

Just as the person who believes in God can say he's how come we got rainbows, no matter our understanding of the refractive properties of light.

Faith healing can't be shown to be a reliable alternative to sound, established medical practices.

[nobspeople]

Sorry, I dont think I have said that. I think I have said, even if supernatural, person can claim that it is really something else. Person who doesnt want to believe in God, can always say there is some other reason, even if God would have really done it.

Just as the person who believes in God can say he's how come we got rainbows, no matter our understanding of the refractive properties of light.

Faith healing can't be shown to be a reliable alternative to sound, established medical practices.

Pickin'-n-choosin' is what christianity so attractive to some. You can hate and hide behind love, be right even in the light of inexcusable morality and justify just about anything, so long as it's OK'd by the bible: slavery, stoning, divorce under the right circumstances....et al.
But remember, with God all things are possible Matthew 19:26
jesus looked at them and said, "With man this is impossible, but with God all things are possible."
So I guess these faith healers either aren't tuned into God when they can't grow back a missing limb, for example, or are charlatans.
Six of one....

[1213]

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Why does God skip over, 100% of the time, requests to restore amputated limbs, requests to remove cerebral palsy, and requests to remove downs syndrome?...

Sorry, I have no proof God has skipped them 100 % of time every time.

If God doesnt fulfill every request, I believe there is a good reason for it, even if I dont know at the moment the reason.

Interesting question is, if God allows persons to lose a limb, why would He then replace it instantly? Maybe, if God wants us to have limbs, we have them and dont lose them. And if we lose, maybe there is some good reason for it.