The Bible rumors

[Elijah John]

Do you believe the Bible rumors about God? The negative ones, like Him condoning slavery, or Him drowning babies in the Flood?

Do you believe rumors against the people in your life that you love?

Do you believe the worst that's said about them? Or the best about them.

For debate,

How can anyone who claims to love God believe the worst things said about him, i.e. the negative Bible rumors?

(apologies to DI for the term "rumors" I borrowed for this post )

[2timothy316]

I know many atheists wouldn't like to likened to Kim Jong Un just because Kim Jong Un believes some of the things atheists do.

And just what is it you think all atheists believe? As far as I know the only thing most atheists have in common is a lack of belief in the existence of god, which doesn't amount to belief, but is simply a position---lack of belief does not amount to belief. Although, a few atheists do go so far as to deny god's existence.

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Thank you for proving my point. Do you see how suddenly what some atheists believe vs what others believe suddenly is important and you want it clarified. The details are important and painting people with broad strokes isn't wise ever. Me as a JW do not want to be identified as a Mormon no more than an atheist wants to be identified as being like Kim Jong Un.

[Miles]

I know many atheists wouldn't like to likened to Kim Jong Un just because Kim Jong Un believes some of the things atheists do.

And just what is it you think all atheists believe? As far as I know the only thing most atheists have in common is a lack of belief in the existence of god, which doesn't amount to belief, but is simply a position---lack of belief does not amount to belief. Although, a few atheists do go so far as to deny god's existence.

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Thank you for proving my point. Do you see how suddenly what some atheists believe vs what others believe suddenly is important and you want it clarified.

Only clarified it for your benefit because you seemed to be under the impression that atheists necessarily share other stances on other issues.

The details are important and painting people with broad strokes isn't wise ever. Me as a JW do not want to be identified as a Mormon no more than an atheist wants to be identified as being like Kim Jong Un.

Don't really care if I, an atheist, am identified as being like Kim Jong Un or not. Mox nix.


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[onewithhim]

And please don't link us Jehovah's Witnesses with Mormons.

Why not? You're no better than they are, are you? Or are Jehovah's Witnesses better than everyone else?


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No. Who said anything about be better?

Why else would you complain?

It's that they don't teach what we do.

But in many cases they do.

Can you give me some examples of what they teach that we do?

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[onewithhim]

And please don't link us Jehovah's Witnesses with Mormons.

Why not? You're no better than they are, are you? Or are Jehovah's Witnesses better than everyone else?


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No. Who said anything about be better?

Why else would you complain?

It's that they don't teach what we do.

But in many cases they do. And as I see them, JWs and Mormons comprise, in part, a group of Christian outliers that have positioned themselves away from main stream Christianity.

Similarities is not a good reason to dump two groups together and call them the same thing.

Which is why I didn't call them that.

Would you like it someone linked you to a group that you don't agree with or support what they teach?

Depends on their reason, I guess. And as in the instance here, I feel it can be quite reasonable.
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In this case it is not reasonable if the reason is to paint who people with broad strokes.

If the broad strokes apply it certainly is, which in this case they do.

I know many atheists wouldn't like to likened to Kim Jong Un just because Kim Jong Un believes some of the things atheists do.

And just what is it you think all atheists believe? As far as I know the only thing most atheists have in common is a lack of belief in the existence of god, which doesn't amount to belief, but is simply a position---lack of belief does not amount to belief. Although, a few atheists do go so far as to deny god's existence.

So lumping religious groups together because of some similarities isn't wise.

If it serves to clarify an issue, why not?


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It's not clarifying anything. What you are is muddying the issue rather than clarifying it, by repeating something that is not true.

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[Miles]

[Miles]

[2timothy316]

I know many atheists wouldn't like to likened to Kim Jong Un just because Kim Jong Un believes some of the things atheists do.

And just what is it you think all atheists believe? As far as I know the only thing most atheists have in common is a lack of belief in the existence of god, which doesn't amount to belief, but is simply a position---lack of belief does not amount to belief. Although, a few atheists do go so far as to deny god's existence.

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Thank you for proving my point. Do you see how suddenly what some atheists believe vs what others believe suddenly is important and you want it clarified.

Only clarified it for your benefit because you seemed to be under the impression that atheists necessarily share other stances on other issues.

The details are important and painting people with broad strokes isn't wise ever. Me as a JW do not want to be identified as a Mormon no more than an atheist wants to be identified as being like Kim Jong Un.

Don't really care if I, an atheist, am identified as being like Kim Jong Un or not. Mox nix.


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If an atheist doesn't mind being identified as being like Kim Jong Un then I guess that atheist's family should be worried about being killed by towel with nerve agent on it.

[Miles]

I know many atheists wouldn't like to likened to Kim Jong Un just because Kim Jong Un believes some of the things atheists do.

And just what is it you think all atheists believe? As far as I know the only thing most atheists have in common is a lack of belief in the existence of god, which doesn't amount to belief, but is simply a position---lack of belief does not amount to belief. Although, a few atheists do go so far as to deny god's existence.

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Thank you for proving my point. Do you see how suddenly what some atheists believe vs what others believe suddenly is important and you want it clarified.

Only clarified it for your benefit because you seemed to be under the impression that atheists necessarily share other stances on other issues.

The details are important and painting people with broad strokes isn't wise ever. Me as a JW do not want to be identified as a Mormon no more than an atheist wants to be identified as being like Kim Jong Un.

Don't really care if I, an atheist, am identified as being like Kim Jong Un or not. Mox nix.


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If an atheist doesn't mind being identified as being like Kim Jong Un then I guess that atheist's family should be worried about being killed by towel with nerve agent on it.

"Like" being the operative word here; not at all. Are you, a believer in JC, worried about being attacked in a Muslim jihad against Americans?


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[2timothy316]

I know many atheists wouldn't like to likened to Kim Jong Un just because Kim Jong Un believes some of the things atheists do.

And just what is it you think all atheists believe? As far as I know the only thing most atheists have in common is a lack of belief in the existence of god, which doesn't amount to belief, but is simply a position---lack of belief does not amount to belief. Although, a few atheists do go so far as to deny god's existence.

.

Thank you for proving my point. Do you see how suddenly what some atheists believe vs what others believe suddenly is important and you want it clarified.

Only clarified it for your benefit because you seemed to be under the impression that atheists necessarily share other stances on other issues.

The details are important and painting people with broad strokes isn't wise ever. Me as a JW do not want to be identified as a Mormon no more than an atheist wants to be identified as being like Kim Jong Un.

Don't really care if I, an atheist, am identified as being like Kim Jong Un or not. Mox nix.


.

If an atheist doesn't mind being identified as being like Kim Jong Un then I guess that atheist's family should be worried about being killed by towel with nerve agent on it.

"Like" being the operative word here; not at all. Are you, a believer in JC, worried about being attacked in a Muslim jihad against Americans?
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There is only one thing I worry about is getting on the wrong side of the One that can destroy both soul and body. (Matthew 10:28)

[Miles]

I know many atheists wouldn't like to likened to Kim Jong Un just because Kim Jong Un believes some of the things atheists do.

And just what is it you think all atheists believe? As far as I know the only thing most atheists have in common is a lack of belief in the existence of god, which doesn't amount to belief, but is simply a position---lack of belief does not amount to belief. Although, a few atheists do go so far as to deny god's existence.

.

Thank you for proving my point. Do you see how suddenly what some atheists believe vs what others believe suddenly is important and you want it clarified.

Only clarified it for your benefit because you seemed to be under the impression that atheists necessarily share other stances on other issues.

The details are important and painting people with broad strokes isn't wise ever. Me as a JW do not want to be identified as a Mormon no more than an atheist wants to be identified as being like Kim Jong Un.

Don't really care if I, an atheist, am identified as being like Kim Jong Un or not. Mox nix.


.

If an atheist doesn't mind being identified as being like Kim Jong Un then I guess that atheist's family should be worried about being killed by towel with nerve agent on it.

"Like" being the operative word here; not at all. Are you, a believer in JC, worried about being attacked in a Muslim jihad against Americans?
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There is only one thing I worry about is getting on the wrong side of the One that can destroy both soul and body. (Matthew 10:28)

And that's where atheism triumphs. Lacking any reason to take verses like Matthew 10:28 seriously, atheists, and many other non-Christians, can simply brush its dire messages aside and go on our merry way. While those committed to its truth suffer in anxious doubt.


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