God's 'track record'

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God's 'track record'

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In another thread, a poster said the following:
Does that good track record, overall include eliminating war, hunger, corruption, injustice and suffering?
It made me wonder, how would god's track record rate?

Let's look at biblically supplied highlights (not in chronical order necessarily):
God created everything :approve:
Then it made man :approve:
Then mad was tempted by satan
This would mean god made satan and allowed satan to tempt man, knowing (if god's all knowing) that man would sin :confused2:
Then god got mad and pouted like a spoiled child (editorializing a bit there but you get the jest) and made man to suffer through sin and ultimately die :confused2:
God asks a guy to sacrifice his son, which he tries but then god sends an angel to stop it :ok:
God gets upset with a city and obliterates it from the planet :blink:
God gets upset with humanity and drowns all terrestrial life (including babies, women in the middle of child birth, animals (which have NOTHING to do with man's sin) and plants) :no:
God THEN offers a sacrifice to sin as himself/son/self/son/self (the debate still lingers as to the specifics of this person)
This person lives a life to his early 30s :approve:
God allows a guy to betray himself/son/self/etc and allows history to see this guy as a traitor when, in all actuality, SOME guy had to do this in order to complete god's 'plan' :facepalm:
Then this god/man/god/man dies and raises from the dead :bigeyes: :approve:
God allows mankind's history to be told in 'the bible', even though there are Es and Os which cause confusion for the remainder of humanity :facepalm: :facepalm: :facepalm: :facepalm:

Being that humanity is IMPERFECT and god (is said to be) PERFECT, we can't legitimately judge the two with the same measurement.
So let's judge god's 'track record':
:approve: or
:confused2: or
:down:
How would YOU judge god's work?
How should god's work be judged?
Have a great, potentially godless, day!

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Veridican wrote: Sat Jan 15, 2022 3:23 pm This conversation is already ongoing in my dungeon cell down below, "Ranting and Ramblings," or whatever it's called. You can join it there or not. I couldn't care less. :chew:
Thank you but I was more interested in debating the topic rather than having a conversation.

Now that I have acquainted myself with Veridicanism, I certainly couldn't care less. Just another one of those recent inventions based on Christianity with some disturbing articles of faith like:
"We believe hell is a place of spiritual agony where souls are kept for the pleasure of God. We believe anyone not transforming into Christ at the time of death will go to hell."

Enjoy your conversation in "Ranting and Ramblings" :wave:

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brunumb wrote: Sat Jan 15, 2022 7:37 pm
Veridican wrote: Sat Jan 15, 2022 3:23 pm This conversation is already ongoing in my dungeon cell down below, "Ranting and Ramblings," or whatever it's called. You can join it there or not. I couldn't care less. :chew:
Thank you but I was more interested in debating the topic rather than having a conversation.

Now that I have acquainted myself with Veridicanism, I certainly couldn't care less. Just another one of those recent inventions based on Christianity with some disturbing articles of faith like:
"We believe hell is a place of spiritual agony where souls are kept for the pleasure of God. We believe anyone not transforming into Christ at the time of death will go to hell."

Enjoy your conversation in "Ranting and Ramblings" :wave:
Here's a link to the current articles of faith: Veridican Articles of Faith

You found that off an old website that posted my articles of faith from years ago when there was no church. But it doesn't matter; that's still an accurate description of hell. What'd you think hell was like?
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brunumb wrote: Sat Jan 15, 2022 7:23 pm ...
I find it morally reprehensible to deliberately make something flawed and later blame the user and then hold them to account when things go wrong.
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Veridican wrote: Sat Jan 15, 2022 7:41 pm ...
But it doesn't matter; that's still an accurate description of hell. What'd you think hell was like?
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Veridican wrote: Sat Jan 15, 2022 7:41 pm Here's a link to the current articles of faith: Veridican Articles of Faith
God's 'track record' takes another hit if he allows for nonsense like the following to pass as his word:

"It has been revealed to us by God that mRNA vaccines fulfill the prophecy of John in Revelation 9:13-19. We hold that they are a weapon of the antichrist intended to destroy a significant portion of humanity which will allow the antichrist to come to power. We, therefore, prohibit our members from taking any mRNA vaccine, specifically the COVID-19 mRNA vaccine. We hold that willfully taking such a vaccine is a sin and places one's body and soul in jeopardy."

Here is Revelation 9:13-19

13 And the sixth angel sounded, and I heard a voice from the four horns of the golden altar which is before God,
14 Saying to the sixth angel which had the trumpet, Loose the four angels which are bound in the great river Euphrates.
15 And the four angels were loosed, which were prepared for an hour, and a day, and a month, and a year, for to slay the third part of men.
16 And the number of the army of the horsemen were two hundred thousand thousand: and I heard the number of them.
17 And thus I saw the horses in the vision, and them that sat on them, having breastplates of fire, and of jacinth, and brimstone: and the heads of the horses were as the heads of lions; and out of their mouths issued fire and smoke and brimstone.
18 By these three was the third part of men killed, by the fire, and by the smoke, and by the brimstone, which issued out of their mouths.
19 For their power is in their mouth, and in their tails: for their tails were like unto serpents, and had heads, and with them they do hurt.


For the life of me I can't find any reference to mRNA vaccines. :?

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Never mind.


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brunumb wrote: Sat Jan 15, 2022 8:18 pm
Veridican wrote: Sat Jan 15, 2022 7:41 pm Here's a link to the current articles of faith: Veridican Articles of Faith
God's 'track record' takes another hit if he allows for nonsense like the following to pass as his word:

"It has been revealed to us by God that mRNA vaccines fulfill the prophecy of John in Revelation 9:13-19. We hold that they are a weapon of the antichrist intended to destroy a significant portion of humanity which will allow the antichrist to come to power. We, therefore, prohibit our members from taking any mRNA vaccine, specifically the COVID-19 mRNA vaccine. We hold that willfully taking such a vaccine is a sin and places one's body and soul in jeopardy."

Here is Revelation 9:13-19

13 And the sixth angel sounded, and I heard a voice from the four horns of the golden altar which is before God,
14 Saying to the sixth angel which had the trumpet, Loose the four angels which are bound in the great river Euphrates.
15 And the four angels were loosed, which were prepared for an hour, and a day, and a month, and a year, for to slay the third part of men.
16 And the number of the army of the horsemen were two hundred thousand thousand: and I heard the number of them.
17 And thus I saw the horses in the vision, and them that sat on them, having breastplates of fire, and of jacinth, and brimstone: and the heads of the horses were as the heads of lions; and out of their mouths issued fire and smoke and brimstone.
18 By these three was the third part of men killed, by the fire, and by the smoke, and by the brimstone, which issued out of their mouths.
19 For their power is in their mouth, and in their tails: for their tails were like unto serpents, and had heads, and with them they do hurt.


For the life of me I can't find any reference to mRNA vaccines. :?
It's symbolic. You wouldn't understand it, and it has nothing do to with you. You're an atheist, right? Then you don't have to worry about any of this. The Bible, and especially Revelation, has nothing to do with you. You know your fate, and you've accepted it. Our church has supported three of its members, who are in health care, with religious exemptions that have been accepted by their employers. I am not going to explain Revelation 9 to you. You can't see it; and apparently that's the way God wants it to be. You are not one of the elect. ...I hope, for your sake, you were never a Christian before you were an atheist. :?
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Veridican wrote: Sun Jan 16, 2022 12:50 am I am not going to explain Revelation 9 to you. You can't see it; and apparently that's the way God wants it to be.
Here we go again. The old cliche of "you don't have the special gift, or magic glasses, or direct hot-line to God, or <insert lame excuse here>" so you can't see the message. After 2000 years God decides that it's time for yet another sect to arise with the truthiest of truths because all the others have been just plain wrong. Spare us the hokum and demonstrate the truth of what you preach.

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